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NANNY RED wrote:Not even gonna go there greavesie lad, as far as im concerned Lucas stepping up is down to Lucas, He took the sh.ite that was thrown at him and sometimes it was rightly deserved along with a few others i could mention, but he got his head down ,beefed himself up a bit by bringing in his own personal trainer , as i said he got his head down and grafted , hes sussed when to pass and when to play the ball not just side to side , he works hard on the pitch, and that is down to himself , not Roy or Rafa ,so as far as im concerned he at this moment deserves his shirt in the side ,

i agree about what he has done for himself there is no doubt he has grafted and worked hard.
Hass his personal trainer taught him how to pass forwards though ?
Or just maybe he has been given a bit of encouragement and freedom to do that this season 

I remember Alonso saying something about Rafa after he left wanting to control almost everything about what the players did on the pitch. Maybe he was always instructed to give it simple ?

Its funny how some can totally disregard a players improvement might have a tiny bit to do with the manager.

Ben Patrick wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:Not even gonna go there greavesie lad, as far as im concerned Lucas stepping up is down to Lucas, He took the sh.ite that was thrown at him and sometimes it was rightly deserved along with a few others i could mention, but he got his head down ,beefed himself up a bit by bringing in his own personal trainer , as i said he got his head down and grafted , hes sussed when to pass and when to play the ball not just side to side , he works hard on the pitch, and that is down to himself , not Roy or Rafa ,so as far as im concerned he at this moment deserves his shirt in the side ,

i agree about what he has done for himself there is no doubt he has grafted and worked hard.
Hass his personal trainer taught him how to pass forwards though ?
Or just maybe he has been given a bit of encouragement and freedom to do that this season 

I remember Alonso saying something about Rafa after he left wanting to control almost everything about what the players did on the pitch. Maybe he was always instructed to give it simple ?

Its funny how some can totally disregard a players improvement might have a tiny bit to do with the manager.

Ben Patrick wrote:Its funny how some can totally disregard a players improvement might have a tiny bit to do with the manager.

The same people who say that Torres' form is completely down to the manager 

Ring-of-Fire wrote:The reason why Lucas is now playing the ball forwards more often is because to play it backwards would be to concede a corner as the midfield is far too deep.

andy_g wrote:

Ring-of-Fire wrote:The reason why Lucas is now playing the ball forwards more often is because to play it backwards would be to concede a corner as the midfield is far too deep.

its bizarre how some people just plain refuse to give lucas the tiniest bit of credit for anything - even when he's sometimes the most committed player in the shirt. the same way people refuse to give hodgson the tiniest bit of credit for anything - even when he has done things right. others such as torres, however, are allowed all the excuses under the sun for sulking their way around the pitch like a spoilt brat.

LFC2007 wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:His latest interview takes the cake. The man is clearly suffering from some kind of senile dementia.

Stop embarrassing yourself, mate.

Ring-of-Fire wrote:

andy_g wrote:

Ring-of-Fire wrote:The reason why Lucas is now playing the ball forwards more often is because to play it backwards would be to concede a corner as the midfield is far too deep.

its bizarre how some people just plain refuse to give lucas the tiniest bit of credit for anything - even when he's sometimes the most committed player in the shirt. the same way people refuse to give hodgson the tiniest bit of credit for anything - even when he has done things right. others such as torres, however, are allowed all the excuses under the sun for sulking their way around the pitch like a spoilt brat.

Wind your neck in, Andy. I have been saying Lucas was 1 of our best players last season as well as this.

Nice to see your 'ability' to edit out the relevant parts of a post to allow you to gloat is still shining through...

LFC2007 wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:Sorry, fella, it's not me that's embarrassing myself. Hodgson is doing that all on his own. He's a shambles.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the job he's doing. You can criticise without the abuse and the persistent ridicule. And I daren't mention the hypocrisy.

LFC2007 wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:Sorry, fella, it's not me that's embarrassing myself. Hodgson is doing that all on his own. He's a shambles.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the job he's doing. You can criticise without the abuse and the persistent ridicule. And I daren't mention the hypocrisy.

Emerald Red wrote:He deserves all the abuse he gets.