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by **7_Kewell** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:19 pm

jimmy brighton wrote:There is no doubt in my mnd that if Gerrard had have come out and said in the summer that he wanted to leave, there would have been a very long queue of clubs trying to sign him. Okay, we may not have got anywhere near £30 million for him (because of his age), but we would still have got a considerable fee and anyways, he's staying. Because? The future is bright!

we would have had a few bids of 20+ million, without a doubt

by **jimmy brighton** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:24 pm

As disappointed with him as I was last season, I'm still made up he's stayed coz that just says that things are really lookin up for us at the mo. Call me the eternal optimist or a glass half full guy but thats how I feel. And I was really pro-rafa.

by **jimmy brighton** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:35 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
jimmy brighton wrote:There is no doubt in my mnd that if Gerrard had have come out and said in the summer that he wanted to leave, there would have been a very long queue of clubs trying to sign him. Okay, we may not have got anywhere near £30 million for him (because of his age), but we would still have got a considerable fee and anyways, he's staying. Because? The future is bright!

we would have had a few bids of 20+ million, without a doubt

Probably £20 million with an average player thrown in(Messi

)

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:08 pm

jimmy brighton wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
jimmy brighton wrote:There is no doubt in my mnd that if Gerrard had have come out and said in the summer that he wanted to leave, there would have been a very long queue of clubs trying to sign him. Okay, we may not have got anywhere near £30 million for him (because of his age), but we would still have got a considerable fee and anyways, he's staying. Because? The future is bright!

we would have had a few bids of 20+ million, without a doubt

Probably £20 million with an average player thrown in(Messi )

by **Greavesie** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:53 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Sabre my post wasn't aimed at you - was more to do with the two other who don't seem to have an opinion of their own and are just here it seems to wind people up and deride then for having the cheek to have an original thought .

we all have our own opinions. But you have an agenda against our current manager

no offence Kewell but you do realise he's only guilty of what you were not too long ago. If it annoys you then consider how you were sounding everytime you jabbed Rafa. Just a thought like

Can we now just accept Rafa has gone. People can view the facts how they want to suit their agenda. Rafa had good points and bad but he left and thats that. So far I've got absolutely no complaints about Roy's impact at LFC and hope we carry on as we have started.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:59 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Sabre my post wasn't aimed at you - was more to do with the two other who don't seem to have an opinion of their own and are just here it seems to wind people up and deride then for having the cheek to have an original thought .

we all have our own opinions. But you have an agenda against our current manager

No its called an opinion - if you dont like that tough sh.it - form an opinion of your own instead of hounding me and trying to dig into my opinion every time i post .

I can guarentee you this

I will support our current manager and every single player who pulls on a liverpool shirt - i will support them until the day they leave and i will certainly not go down the road of insulting them .

I bet the people who are now throwing the praise onto him in bucket loads will be the first to turn on him and demand he goes . It was evident with the last manager and will be evident with this manager and the next .

As for Gerrard i stand by my opinion that he is still with us because he had nowhere else to go . Aldo said a cracking phrase on 5live one night just as maureen took charge of Madrid - "Gerrard is too old to pay 30 million for but is too good to sell for less than 30 mil " . Am i glad he stayed - too f.ucking right i am as he is our best player by a mile .

by **Igor Zidane** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:34 pm

Greavesie wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Sabre my post wasn't aimed at you - was more to do with the two other who don't seem to have an opinion of their own and are just here it seems to wind people up and deride then for having the cheek to have an original thought .

we all have our own opinions. But you have an agenda against our current manager

no offence Kewell but you do realise he's only guilty of what you were not too long ago. If it annoys you then consider how you were sounding everytime you jabbed Rafa. Just a thought like

Can we now just accept Rafa has gone. People can view the facts how they want to suit their agenda. Rafa had good points and bad but he left and thats that. So far I've got absolutely no complaints about Roy's impact at LFC and hope we carry on as we have started.

This.

Thoughs who throw stones at glass house's an all that . Or something like that.

by **LFC2007** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:52 pm

All we know is that he considered "another option" that was likely to have been Madrid. That doesn't mean he was desperate to move to Madrid, it means he gave it some thought, and who can blame him after last season's debacle. If he really wanted to go, he could have done an Alonso. Then, Madrid and the player waited it out and they got their wish.

Utimately, all we need to know is that Gerrard is committed and willing to give his all in the coming season. It seems odd that you should have to try and justify such a thing on a Liverpool forum, but anyway, here are a couple of quotes that give you a sense of his mood and where his focus is:

""I wanted the chance to meet Roy Hodgson privately and having done so, I'm very impressed with his plans for the future.

I've only returned to training today at Melwood with some of the other World Cup players, but I can't wait for the new season to start."

Here's what he said after Joe Cole signed:

"He's proved his ability over many years in the Premier League, sometimes against us - so it will be fantastic to play alongside him in a red shirt for Liverpool.

"I've told him what a great club this is and I'm sure Joe's the sort of exciting talent our fans will love to see."

-----------------------------------------------

Actions speak louder than words, and Gerrard was excellent against both Rabotnicki and Arsenal. That's all that matters.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:05 pm

Yes agree what he does during this season is all that matters hence why I am delighted he is staying - still think he is just a bit below his usual high standards but that maybe down to the role he is playing currently .

As for quotes to papers I thought we took them with a pinch of salt these days

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:09 pm

And I will still believe that if Madrid had offered the correct amount he would of gone to them - he has came close to leaving before twice and I think this time if the opportunity has arisen he would of taken it - he was never going to force a move - that's not in his nature and would never do that to he club . Harsh yes I know but it's what I believe .

by **LFC2007** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:12 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:As for quotes to papers I thought we took them with a pinch of salt these days

Jesus H Christ. You mean the quotes of Gerrard on Hodgson and Cole? They're taken from the Liverpool Echo.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:14 pm

But before when players have made quotes before about players and manager the response is normally - "Well they aren't exactly going to say anything bad are they " - have things changed now where we now believe everything a player says ?

by **LFC2007** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:40 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:But before when players have made quotes before about players and manager the response is normally - "Well they aren't exactly going to say anything bad are they " - have things changed now where we now believe everything a player says ?

The quotes serve as an indication of how he's feeling. It doesn't take much common sense to work out the rest.

A couple of things, though:

1) He didn't need to speak to the press at all and he's praised the signing of Cole on at least two occasions. That aside, it doesn't take much by way of reason to deduce that he would be pleased with that signing. Joe Cole's quality is there for all to see. He wants to play with top quality players like Cole because he wants to be successful, and because he wants to be successful, last season's shambolic effort would not have registered lightly.

2) In spite of all the speculation, and in spite of coming close to joining Chelsea, he chose to stay at the club and played a major role in keeping the team competitive.

Like I said, actions speak louder than words so we'll see how he performs this season. If you believe his mind is on Madrid, that's fair enough, you'll no doubt be expecting to see his performances continue in the same vein as last season. I don't believe that's the case and I expect to see him to return to something like his best.

by **In and Out** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:42 pm

And it wasn't anything to do with luck.

deary me, why we're talking about Roy being lucky to secure his services only one person knows.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:46 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:But before when players have made quotes before about players and manager the response is normally - "Well they aren't exactly going to say anything bad are they " - have things changed now where we now believe everything a player says ?

The quotes serve as an indication of how he's feeling. It doesn't take much common sense to work out the rest.

A couple of things, though:

1) He didn't need to speak to the press at all and he's praised the signing of Cole on at least two occasions. That aside, it doesn't take much by way of reason to deduce that he would be pleased with that signing. Joe Cole's quality is there for all to see. He wants to play with top quality players like Cole because he wants to be successful, and because he wants to be successful, last season's shambolic effort would not have registered lightly.

2) In spite of all the speculation, and in spite of coming close to joining Chelsea, he chose to stay at the club and played a major role in keeping the team competitive.

Like I said, actions speak louder than words so we'll see how he performs this season. If you believe his mind is on Madrird, that's fair enough and you can expect to see his performances to continue in the same vein as last season. I don't believe that's the case and I expect to see him return to something like his best.

I haven't said his mind will be on Madrid as I expect him to be like be always is and that's fully focused on doing well with Liverpool and once the game starts would never question his commitment or his desire , but also understand him wanting to win more trophies and the play with the best players in the world hence my opinion about Madrid . I'm bloody glad he didn't go and hope he stays fit all season long

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