bigmick wrote:I suppose the tester for these players which you relatively shell out a lot of money to gamble on, is if you knew then what you know now would you still pay the money you paid? Probably around Christmas time, there wouldn't have been that many people who would've been prepared to splash out 11 million squid on Babel with the benefit of hindsight (I certainly wouldn't have back then). Since then though, he has gradually grown and has gone past Lucas for most people I would think in terms of most promising player in and around the first team.
I like Lucas but whereas he has flattered to decieve a little, Babel has grown into the team. It's probably no coincidence (and I think perhaps even the "pro's" would accept this) that Babel is the one out of the two who has been given a regular starting berth in the team, but only the Brazillians biggest and most deluded fans would argue that he is currently good enough for a starting spot on merit.
So anyway what of Babel? Well many people have alluded to the fact he doesn't use his left foot that much, but I shouldn't think that unless he intends being a left-winger all his life it would be too much of a problem. I've seen him shoot and cross with his left foot with varying degrees of success so I wouldn't count it as a particular weakness. He does seem to posess a good hit when he just unloads, obviously has a tonne of pace (which he doesn't seem to know how best to use on occasions) and has a trick or two to take him back onto his favoured right side when the situation allows. I haven't really seen him head it much that I can remember but he would probably have the athleticism to be a good header, if not the inclination.
I think he can improve most in how he uses himself, where he puts himself during a game and his general decision making in posession. To me whether he starts on the left side, right side or as a conventional front man, he should be encouraged to track in off the touchline more and make an angle for the full back. Upon recieving the ball, he kind of needs to think less if that doesn't sound too odd. He's fairly obviously a nightmare to defend against when he's actually in full flight with the football at his feet, as he asks defenders to make decisions with critical outcomes very quickly and with tiny margins for error. There won't be many who will shepherd Babel down the outside because like a young Henri he has enough after burners to go through the gears and simply go round the long way. So nine times out of ten it's a stand and deliver situation for a defender if Babels in full flight, they're either having him over or they're tackling him cleanly, and it happens in the blink of an eye.
His gameplan should therefore be all about getting in full flight with the football at his feet as often as possible. Surprisingly it's not quite as simple as just "get the ball and run with it FFS!!" as there are a couple of factors. Firstly, as he is reluctant to track in off the touchline (or he gets coached to stay out there but I think that's unlikely TBH) it's sometimes difficult firstly to get the ball to him, and secondly he's often got nowhere to go when he gets it. At the moment the full back is happy to ease him infield where he gets confronted by the central midfielders and he nine times out of ten gets rid of the ball.
Well the first bit is quite easy to fix, and this really is as simple as saying "just come in off the touchline by ten yards when the fullback gets it FFS!!" . For the second bit to improve though, Rafa and his teammates have got a big role to play. I actually think Babel has to be encouraged to run with the ball, sometimes accross the field towards the right, sometimes in the midfield areas and sometimes in dangerous positions, purely because when he gets his confidence up he could cause huge damage and not just around the opposition goal. His first instinct upon recieving the ball should be "can I ask a question here?". Now nobody goes on a run every time they get it, he'd be like a modern day Alan Devonshire FFS but the thought should be in his and his defenders minds that there's a very good chance that he'll pin back his ears and go. Obviously in so doing, he is going to sometimes lose it, sometimes waste it and sometimes do everybodies head in but if you want a straight up and down player, don't sell Riise and play him there. It's going to need patience and lots of encouragement from the fans as well, but that to me is Babels biggest asset. If he can consistently run with the ball during games he has it in him to become a top player.
One last thing, they need to work on a few patterns which allow him to actually recieve it when he is in or somewhere near to full flight. I'd be very comfortable as a defender if as currently happens he almost always recieves the ball standing still, whereas I'd get very nervous about him getting the ball on the move. Him doing so got us the penalty which beat Arsenal in the Champions league.
s@int wrote:I think he has done OK this season without having a great game to his name yet. He has scored some good goals and given glimpses of what he is capable of, but I still have my doubts. He certainly needs to toughen up as Nanny has already said, and start using his left foot occasionally if only to put a little doubt in the oppositions mind as to what he is going to do.
If I had to guess I would say he will be a decent player but not quite what we are looking for (Pongole) rather than the new Henry.
Emerald Red wrote:s@int wrote:I think he has done OK this season without having a great game to his name yet. He has scored some good goals and given glimpses of what he is capable of, but I still have my doubts. He certainly needs to toughen up as Nanny has already said, and start using his left foot occasionally if only to put a little doubt in the oppositions mind as to what he is going to do.
If I had to guess I would say he will be a decent player but not quite what we are looking for (Pongole) rather than the new Henry.
The thing is, S@int, remember Henry in his first two seasons with Arsenal? He looked average. Babel has actually done very well if what he says is true about setting himself a benchmark of 10 goals for himself to reach personally. He's been more of an impact player and has done great considering he's not playing in his natural position. If he continues to improve, then we could have a potential superstar playing for us within the next few years IMO. We haven't seen the best of him yet by any stretch. He's also probably got the most fierce right foot strike in the Prem since Hasselbaink. We just haven't seen enough of it yet.
Effes wrote:I dont think he's that good to be honest.
Maybe if we'd seen "flashes" of brilliance I'd have higher hopes.
But I haven't, so i haven't.
red37 wrote:Igor Zidane wrote:Babel £10-£12 million and how many goals . I think he has had a good first season , but imo he's not a winger ,so the sooner he gets put up front the better for him .
If you compare what the mancs payed for Nani and anderson ,and the first season they have had it looks very positive for babel and lucas for that matter.
I agree with Ig.
I said earlier in the piece when he arrived that, i reckon we will have a gem on our hands 2-3 years down the line and i've not changed my mind since. His most effective position for me, as others have said - surely is up front. In any case i like what he has brought to the attack. Another couple of seasons under his belt should allow for any creases to be ironed out and with confidence, there's no reason at all why the lad can't go on to great things.
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