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[UvS xR4GEx]

We have seen it so many times over the years, players dropping hints at a move away, that club hears about the rumor, then makes an offer for that player.

Unfortunately for Reina that offer never came, and he was stuck playing for his 2nd choice team, which happens to be us. Its frustrating as a fan because Reina is one of the best keepers around.

Hopefully this will be a lesson for players hinting from moves away.

[Benny The Noon]

That letter confirms a lot of things about the way the club is currently run.

[Kenny Kan]

The letter confirms nothing other than Reina's respect for Liverpool, the city and it's fans.

It gives the inclination that Reina was waiting for Barca to come in and he would have been off, Rodgers didn't fancy having a keeper who wasn't committed to his plans - nothing wrong with that.

[Kharhaz]

The letter confirms nothing other than Reina's respect for Liverpool, the city and it's fans.

It gives the inclination that Reina was waiting for Barca to come in and he would have been off, Rodgers didn't fancy having a keeper who wasn't committed to his plans - nothing wrong with that.

Agreed. I think Reina has been awesome for us but if Barcelona came knocking he would be gone at the drop of a hat and couldn't care less whether Liverpool had a replacement for him. Surely he didn't expect the club to sit back and wait?

[Benny The Noon]

The letter confirms nothing other than Reina's respect for Liverpool, the city and it's fans.

It gives the inclination that Reina was waiting for Barca to come in and he would have been off, Rodgers didn't fancy having a keeper who wasn't committed to his plans - nothing wrong with that.

Agreed. I think Reina has been awesome for us but if Barcelona came knocking he would be gone at the drop of a hat and couldn't care less whether Liverpool had a replacement for him. Surely he didn't expect the club to sit back and wait?

If the club want him to leave that's fine - whatever the reason is this week but at least treat him with the respect he has earned over the past 8 years and not just agree to loan him out without him knowing about - that's disrespectful treatment of the player and wrong and not what our club is about.

Yes if Barce were going to make a bid for him he wanted to consider it but that wasnt going to happen as soon as Valdes decided to stay nearly 2 months ago now and Pepe even talked about extending his contract.

You only have to look at the way that Pepe has acted compared to Suarez and some want to give Suarez even more money !

Feel the principles and the foundations that our great club was built on are being damaged by our current custodians - that's the second legend that has been mistreated by them in a year.

[SouthCoastShankly]

The letter confirms nothing other than Reina's respect for Liverpool, the city and it's fans.

It gives the inclination that Reina was waiting for Barca to come in and he would have been off, Rodgers didn't fancy having a keeper who wasn't committed to his plans - nothing wrong with that.

Agreed. I think Reina has been awesome for us but if Barcelona came knocking he would be gone at the drop of a hat and couldn't care less whether Liverpool had a replacement for him. Surely he didn't expect the club to sit back and wait?

A true Liverpool legend.

However I can also see the reluctance of the club to have a £100K+ a week wage on the bench. Especially being a keeper who potentially could get very little opportunity to contribute. Also for what it is worth as soon as Mignolet was signed I am sure Reina would have been happy with the Napoli move, it is a world cup year after all and there is nothing better than regular games to ensure participation for the national side.

[Santa]

Feel the principles and the foundations that our great club was built on are being damaged by our current custodians - that's the second legend that has been mistreated by them in a year.

Full respect and love to Dalglish and Reina, who I rate as highly as Ray Clements but Benny, sometime I think you're arguing just to be stubborn and for argument sake.

The sacking of Dalglish is fully justified. He has been out of the game far too long and the team and signings are just not working out. It was a decisive action by the owners and I will do the same if I have to make the decision.

I also understand why they might want Reina to go on loan as it was instigated by Reina himself. As a custodian/manager, what would you have done if your No.1 told the world that he will leave if Barca do as much as blink at his direction? I would not hesitate and sign a replacement. Taking into account the difference in Reina and Mignolet's salaries, it made sense to spent £9M on him and move on. Unfortunately Reina got screwed by Barca and Valdes so tough luck Pepe.

You talk about the principles and foundations of this club are being damaged??? how naive or stupid are you? You think the modern days footballers gives a flying F**k about these? if we still operates like we did some 30 years back, we'll get screwed by them in every transfer window. I say time for the board to grow some balls and stand firm on what's right to move the club forward! 

[Benny The Noon]

Again it's not the actual choices that have been made its the way the club have gone about them

And yes both Kenny and Pepe gave a f*ck about the principals and foundations the club was built on - in fact Kenny is a cornerstone of those and you can tell from the letter what the club meant to Pepe - the club agreeing to loan him without telling him after he was willing to stay and fight for his place - sorry that's not the way we should operate.

If BR really didn't want Pepe anymore then stop with the ***** about fighting for places and actually tell Pepe that he is free to go on loan or leave but don't sort it out without having the respect to tell him - that's wrong. We can't accuse modern footballers of being disrespectful to the clubs and fans and then the club show disrespect to their players.

And when Suarez told the club that he wants to leave in a flash and the blink of an eye the club say he isn't going anywhere - why didnt they do the same to Pepe - why aren't the club buying a striker right now because Suarez says he wants to go

[SouthCoastShankly]

Again it's not the actual choices that have been made its the way the club have gone about them

And yes both Kenny and Pepe gave a f*ck about the principals and foundations the club was built on - in fact Kenny is a cornerstone of those and you can tell from the letter what the club meant to Pepe - the club agreeing to loan him without telling him after he was willing to stay and fight for his place - sorry that's not the way we should operate.

If BR really didn't want Pepe anymore then stop with the ***** about fighting for places and actually tell Pepe that he is free to go on loan or leave but don't sort it out without having the respect to tell him - that's wrong. We can't accuse modern footballers of being disrespectful to the clubs and fans and then the club show disrespect to their players.

And when Suarez told the club that he wants to leave in a flash and the blink of an eye the club say he isn't going anywhere - why didnt they do the same to Pepe - why aren't the club buying a striker right now because Suarez says he wants to go

And there lies the rub.

You choose to think that Rodgers got rid of Reina because he didn't want him, however Rodgers has been very clear on the matter. When Reina suggested he wanted to consider an offer from Barcelona, which at the time was reported by many sources as a likelihood, the club had no choice but to be proactive in preparing for the loss of their #1. They pursued another keeper, we signed another keeper, by which time Valdes committed for another year and unfortunately Reina's dream move back home fell through. The only point you can argue with is the club policy to be unwilling to have a highly paid substitute keeper, whether that is Reina or Mignolet. If we had the money we would be happy to keep both, but we don't and the reality is that if Reina and his agent had not gone out of their way to inform he club of their intention to consider a move to Barcelona (if would have been far less risky to have waited for the Barcelona bid), this situation would not have happened.

[mart]

I'd prefer if we kept Reina but the only bad thing the club did was release that statement about Reina and Mignolet fighting for places when it clearly was a lie. Sending him on loan to Napoli was probably the best thing for both Reina and the club.

[Benny The Noon]

31 May 2013 - Valdes states that he isn't going to leave Barce - no need for Barce to buy a GK

6 weeks later we buy Mignolet. So the club and Pepe knew that a bid wasnt going to arrive for him. The club wanted to replace a high earner and brought in someone else. Then the club and BR start going on about having 2 GK's battling for the No1 spot all season long - Pepe happy to fight for his spot and even sign a new contract

Club then go and sort out a loan for him ( and this is the part that disrespect Pepe ) "Without telling him "

Whether BR wanted Pepe gone is not the crux of the problem - it's his choice at the end of the day and he will live or die by those choices - it's the way the club then span some bullocks about competition for Pepe which was blatantly false and then sorted out a loan move for him without telling him - that's not how our club should deal with things.

[Octsky]

imagine you have a gf of 8 yrs, recently she told you she will seriously consider to abandon you to be with her boss
if her boss does decided to make a move next yr.
realizing this you decided to break up with her to be with another woman.
your girlfriend cursed you for being unfaithful.

[red till i die!!]

imagine you have a gf of 8 yrs, recently she told you she will seriously consider to abandon you to be with her boss
if her boss does decided to make a move next yr.
realizing this you decided to break up with her to be with another woman.
your girlfriend cursed you for being unfaithful.

Did u buy that smoke at the emirates mate ?

[Redman in wales]

Pepe didn't go to Barca this summer cause Valdez made a U-Turn. Pepe will go to barca next summer instead, regardless of what our keeper situation is/was. {question is not why did we loan him out, but why did Napoli not want to buy Reina? - Cause he's going to Barca} The club felt it right that after courting Mignolet, that he was the right man for us going forward, and after Valdez had done his u-turn, decided that it best to get mignolet now, incase he's unavailable next season.

[Greavesie]

I haven't read through the thread but here's my two cents.

I understand his gripe to an extent but he can't fault the club for stating he'd ditch us for Barca but also extend his contract, what if he extended then Barca came in for him? Seems really odd for his to state both and publish it on his website. Granted the club should have consulted him a bit more but he can't fault us for being proactive and prepared for his inevitable departure