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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

You know if anyone listened to us lot on newkit they'd be convinced that we are on the verge of going down instead of being just 3 wins away from the title 

Mingolet - awful
Johnson - worst Liverpool player ever
Sakho - Traore mark II
Agger - can't head a ball
Skrtel - a disaster waiting to happen
Flanno - not top class
Cissokho - shyte
Gerrard - liability
Lucas - milk turns quicker
Hendo - waste of money
Allen - the same as hendo
Sturridge - selfish
Suarez - deserves an oscar
Coutinho - inconsistent

[JC_81]

Stu with all due respect mate I think your ability to judge a player was summed up earlier this season when you suggested Sterling was never good enough and would eventually find his level in the Championship!

Johnson is in decline and definitely shouldn't have his contract extended, but he's nowhere near as bad as you suggest. His most recent performance at Norwich was horrendous though to the point where Redmond actually megged him and ran by him like he didn't exist.

[Thommo's perm]

It will be a miracle of biblical proportions if we win the Premier league:
We have had a dodgy keeper (sometimes)
No left back, Cissokho then Flanagan, who has been outstanding
A pi'ss poor right back, a liability for a lot of the season
Skrtel has had his moments, but overall been good
Agger, in and out with injuries
Sakho, injured, very shaky since his return and has recently been getting away with decisions
Henderson, been really good but is still a long way from taking over from Gerrard
Gerrard, superb, especially in the new role
Allen, injured for a lot of the season, has been good of late
Lucas, injured and dodgy in the tackle, gives free kicks away in dangerous positions
Coutinho, has been a relevation, but had a dip midway through the season
Sterling, only recently came into form
Sturridge, was fantastic at the start but has lost confidence
Suarez, a genius who is relentless, but missed the beginning of the season
There have been some bit part players but by rights we should be nowhere near the top. Nevertheless we are and we should be grateful that the strikers in particular have got us there.
3 games from glory...

[Stu the Red]

Stu with all due respect mate I think your ability to judge a player was summed up earlier this season when you suggested Sterling was never good enough and would eventually find his level in the Championship!

Johnson is in decline and definitely shouldn't have his contract extended, but he's nowhere near as bad as you suggest. His most recent performance at Norwich was horrendous though to the point where Redmond actually megged him and ran by him like he didn't exist.

Yeah I guess it does John, getting one wrong based on dog turd form for six months clearly sums it up!

Johnson's a horrendous player, he's never been as good as people like to think. The fact I'd rather have kept Arbeloa who was very average says enough about that.

[damjan193]

As much as Stu has been hit and miss with his judgements and predictions and as much as I'm against his over exaggerating, I can't really disagree with him about Johnson. He has no passing ability, no vision and can't defend. Every now and then he gets past players on the overlap with his pace and a bit of skill but that's that. He has one good game after ten horrible ones. We need better than that.

[Stu the Red]

As much as Stu has been hit and miss with his judgements and predictions and as much as I'm against his over exaggerating, I can't really disagree with him about Johnson. He has no passing ability, no vision and can't defend. Every now and then he gets past players on the overlap with his pace and a bit of skill but that's that. He has one good game after ten horrible ones. We need better than that.

Hit and miss and over exaggerating?

Care to explain?

[damjan193]

As much as Stu has been hit and miss with his judgements and predictions and as much as I'm against his over exaggerating, I can't really disagree with him about Johnson. He has no passing ability, no vision and can't defend. Every now and then he gets past players on the overlap with his pace and a bit of skill but that's that. He has one good game after ten horrible ones. We need better than that.

Hit and miss and over exaggerating?

Care to explain?

Didn't mean to make it personal mate. But you did get a lot wrong like Sterling, Sakho, Sturrdige, us finishing 6th at best, needing "at least 8 or 9 players to win the league" etc. while you got Gerrard right, Johnson and more and more likely Mignolet.

[devaney]

You know if anyone listened to us lot on newkit they'd be convinced that we are on the verge of going down instead of being just 3 wins away from the title 

Mingolet - awful
Johnson - worst Liverpool player ever
Sakho - Traore mark II
Agger - can't head a ball
Skrtel - a disaster waiting to happen
Flanno - not top class
Cissokho - shyte
Gerrard - liability
Lucas - milk turns quicker
Hendo - waste of money
Allen - the same as hendo
Sturridge - selfish
Suarez - deserves an oscar
Coutinho - inconsistent

You forgot our useless fkg manager who according to many should have been sacked after his first few awful months !!! Glad to say I wasn't one of the silly fkrs 

[Stu the Red]

As much as Stu has been hit and miss with his judgements and predictions and as much as I'm against his over exaggerating, I can't really disagree with him about Johnson. He has no passing ability, no vision and can't defend. Every now and then he gets past players on the overlap with his pace and a bit of skill but that's that. He has one good game after ten horrible ones. We need better than that.

Hit and miss and over exaggerating?

Care to explain?

Didn't mean to make it personal mate. But you did get a lot wrong like Sterling, Sakho, Sturrdige, us finishing 6th at best, needing "at least 8 or 9 players to win the league" etc. while you got Gerrard right, Johnson and more and more likely Mignolet.

Sterling had previous to this season shown very little if anything to suggest he had the ability. He'd also poorly during the last few months of last season and into the start of this season. At times he was embarrassingly bad and spent more time on the floor than on his feet.

Sahko I said looked shakey, I'm still not 100% convinced despite him showing more promise so I don't say how you can say thats "wrong".

As for Sturridge, not even close to being wrong. Absolutely nail on head. Never said he was anything other than a good player so I have no idea where you get that one from.

On finishing 6th at best that was not accounting for Man Utd's spectacular failiure, I didn't think Moyes could do that badly, glad I was mistaken there (definately not the only one). Due to Suarez's ridiculous form that no-one could have seen coming and Sterling looking a £25,000,000 pound player, along with Flannagan and Henderson playing above themselves this season and showing more than they ever have then I don't believe that was an unfair comment. This side has performed well above its level in terms of quality this season due to Suarez effectively proving he's in the top three players in the world.

[fivecups]

Stu with all due respect mate I think your ability to judge a player was summed up earlier this season when you suggested Sterling was never good enough and would eventually find his level in the Championship!

Johnson is in decline and definitely shouldn't have his contract extended, but he's nowhere near as bad as you suggest. His most recent performance at Norwich was horrendous though to the point where Redmond actually megged him and ran by him like he didn't exist.

Yeah I guess it does John, getting one wrong based on dog turd form for six months clearly sums it up!

Johnson's a horrendous player, he's never been as good as people like to think. The fact I'd rather have kept Arbeloa who was very average says enough about that.

I never understood why Arbeloa wasn't rated when he was with us. I'm  even more surprised people still don't realise he's a top quality right back.

[damjan193]

Didn't say that you didn't have your logical reasons for your opinions Stu, but it doesn't change the fact that they were wrong whilst you were completely and utterly convinced that you are right. I remember one particular thing from you, it was when I was saying that IMO we are good enough to finish in the top 4 and you laughed it off saying that it isn't a matter of opinion but a matter of "knowing the game" that we won't finish higher than 6th, which has now proved to be dead wrong. I have nothing against you mate but you should realize that you aren't the all knowing footballing guru that you think that you are.

[devaney]

Stu. Just accept that at times like all of us you have the ability to talk shight. Sterling took a serious dip in form after he was given a £48k a week pay rise and had some personal problems hanging over him. He has always shown massive potential except for a relatively short period of time when a lot of us (including myself I think?) got increasingly frustrated with him. You on the other hand seem to think that Sterling has come from zero to hero during the last 4/5 months which frankly is nonsense. Yes he has improved under BR and his team. He has benefitted from playing alongside Suarez. Your assessment that he was nothing more than a Championship player simply goes some way to confirm my suspicions that you haven't got a clue.

[red till i die!!]

what kind of instruction is this clown given before he goes out on to the pitch ?
he enjoys some amount of possession and gets himself into great positions but then loses the plot followed by the ball. is he supposed to get behind and cross it ? is he supposed to cut inside ? is he supposed to get to the by line and cut it or try a shot ? i honestly dont think he knows himself.
absolutely useless today  has to be one of the first positions to be sorted this summer

[maypaxvobiscum]

what kind of instruction is this clown given before he goes out on to the pitch ?

    This made me laugh.

[ConnO'var]

I swear, if i had gun, I would have shot him for sheer stupidity and absolute lack of effort yesterday. An absolute disgrace to the badge.