Liverpool FC Forum

[The Raven]

I blame him for barmy quotes from interviews, his side? not much to say i dont see it being a massive improvement on last season. On our day it looks like progress, then bam a WBA or Villa turn up and we look like the owl was back in charge. I dont know if this is going to change.

He is doing the best he can with his limited Experience. At the end of the day if it all goes pear shaped it will be down to the board that appointed him his results are not though lack of trying.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I notice a lot of people bring up the 4-1 against Chelsea last season as some sort of sign that the tide was turning. It was a good result but they made 8 changes to the side that beat us in the FA Cup final a few days earlier. They even played the likes of Turnbull and Ferreira.

dalglish beat chelsea 3 times in 4 games last season, we beat them home and away in the league and at stamford bridge in the league cup.
the match we lost was the F.A  cup final, and even in that game john terry and roberto dematteo admitted that the final whistle couldnt come soon enough.
competing against the top sides wasnt really our problem under dalglish, we beat everton 3 times, arsenal at their place and beat city and united in the cups.
infact city and united were very lucky to leave anfield with a point in the league last season, especially city (but admittedly they had a man sent off).
personally i would have liked to have seen the likes of carroll and diame playing in the same side as suarez, sterling, johnson, agger etc. i think we would have had a good balance between power and skill.
rodgers is doing okay but i do feel we are too lightweight and predictable. even the editorial in yesterdays echo was saying if rodgers plan A isnt working what does he do? continue with plan A. talk about flogging a dead horse.
we arent a great side but there`s no way we should be halfway down the table with three quarters of the season gone, you give any manager in the division our squad and he`d do that if not better.

[heimdall]

It's Brendan's job to motivate the players and tell them how to play, it's therefore Brendan's fault if the tactics and/or motivation is wrong. If a player can't get motivated byt the manager then he needs to be fdropped form the team but that again is the managers repsonsibility, do you see where I'm goign with this, it's ultimately Brendan's fault, he is completely out of his depth and I do not believe he has the respect of the players.

[SouthCoastShankly]

It's Brendan's job to motivate the players and tell them how to play, it's therefore Brendan's fault if the tactics and/or motivation is wrong. If a player can't get motivated byt the manager then he needs to be fdropped form the team but that again is the managers repsonsibility, do you see where I'm goign with this, it's ultimately Brendan's fault, he is completely out of his depth and I do not believe he has the respect of the players.

What a load of nonsense. Every team suffers when a manager changes, especially when a new system is adopted. Your argument would have some weight if Rodgers had been in charge for 2 or 3 seasons and the results were happening. But he hasn't, he's been here for a matter of months. Any decent fanbase gives backing to the manager for the sake of the team, despite any doubts.

Every team has off games or periods. Previous to the last game the motivation and tactics have been spot on, the team is learning and the squad is strengthening. Neither of which happen in a few months.

Hate to say it but the likes of Benitez and Fergie would have been out of a job within their first season if the majority of supporters were as unsupportive as you are.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

It's Brendan's job to motivate the players and tell them how to play, it's therefore Brendan's fault if the tactics and/or motivation is wrong. If a player can't get motivated byt the manager then he needs to be fdropped form the team but that again is the managers repsonsibility, do you see where I'm goign with this, it's ultimately Brendan's fault, he is completely out of his depth and I do not believe he has the respect of the players.

What a load of nonsense. Every team suffers when a manager changes, especially when a new system is adopted. Your argument would have some weight if Rodgers had been in charge for 2 or 3 seasons and the results were happening. But he hasn't, he's been here for a matter of months. Any decent fanbase gives backing to the manager for the sake of the team, despite any doubts.

Every team has off games or periods. Previous to the last game the motivation and tactics have been spot on, the team is learning and the squad is strengthening. Neither of which happen in a few months.

Hate to say it but the likes of Benitez and Fergie would have been out of a job within their first season if the majority of supporters were as unsupportive as you are.

i think people are just frustrated and angry.
you could see that at the game when the crowd emptied out before the whistle, i`ve never seen that before at anfield.
the few that did decide to stay boo`ed the team off!
it was a tough weekend to be a liverpool fan, united basically wrapped up their 20th league title to put a bit of daylight between us and them and then the following day we capitulate at home to a team that hadnt won in 8 matches basically blowing any aspirations we had of finishing 4th.
there`s only so many kicks in the teeth fans can take in one weekend.
i live in liverpool and the general feeling i get is that fans just want the season over, even though we still have the europa league to play for no one seems bothered, monday seems to have sapped everyone`s will.

[red till i die!!]

i agree the realisation of being out of the domestic cups and now the running for 4th and all by mid feb is depressing. in all fairness im not that surprised that this season has panned out like this given the changes that were made.
all we have left is the europa league so i hope he gives that a good shot but we do have a tricky tie against zenit who are a decent outfit so he will need to motivate and rally the troops to be better prepared for that. it will be a hostile reception for the lads over there and if we go missing and take a heavy defeat then it could be over for us.
we wont have much time to recover from that trip and we have to face swansea at home which will also be a tough match for us given the similar styles of play and failure to beat them will be hard to take.

[Doeboy]

Time to judge BR will be next season. I still think there are a fair few players in the squad who he doesn't fancy and wants to move on however this is a gradual process and there was no way he was going to shape the squad HE wants in 2 windows. He will have had a season to look at a lot of the players close up and I think this summer is when he will really put his stamp on the squad and wouldn't be surprised if we are really busy with both outgoing/incoming transfers. The likes of Downing, Carroll  will be gone. Also think we will look to upgrade Reina, Enrique and Skrtel provided the right player becomes available.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Time to judge BR will be next season. I still think there are a fair few players in the squad who he doesn't fancy and wants to move on however this is a gradual process and there was no way he was going to shape the squad HE wants in 2 windows. He will have had a season to look at a lot of the players close up and I think this summer is when he will really put his stamp on the squad and wouldn't be surprised if we are really busy with both outgoing/incoming transfers. The likes of Downing, Carroll  will be gone. Also think we will look to upgrade Reina, Enrique and Skrtel provided the right player becomes available.

this summer could be absolutely crucial, on top of carraghers retirement if we do move experienced campaigners like reina and skrtel out and we fail to hold on to suarez rodgers could find himself having to re-build the team again almost from scratch.
potentially we have a massive, massive summer coming up, one of the most important in our modern history, get a few big decisions wrong this summer and we really could be joining the likes of wolves, preston and the other fallen giants who once dominated the english game.

[Octsky]

rogers has got to wake up from his dream land of that he has every "time" in the world to manager lfc.
his team selection of shelvey vs west brom beats all conventional thinking.
shelve last league appearance was the loss against stoke city and then suddenly he was back into the startling lineup. he was not injured, he was just not good enough and after complaining to the press, rogers suddenly felt that shelvey is good to start.
wtf is that?

[RedHands]

I could see the thinking of starting Shelvey. He's not light-weight and against a physical side like West Brom may be useful. I thought we were excellent defensively until the double substitution. He high pressing was forcing WBA to play long and we were winning every long ball. BUT the problem was with the lineup was in the attack. I would have liked to see us start with Borini for Sturridge and the lineup we've been playing.

[Thommo's perm]

The manager made the classic mistake of bigging up an average player by telling him he is better than he really is. I can see the reasoning in this because it can build a players confidence and raise his game.
Unfortunately, as in the case of Shelvey, it has gone to his head and he now believes he is the dogs bollox and doesnt have to try any more. He needs a wake up call and Rodgers needs to do it asap because it is totally down to him

[SouthCoastShankly]

shelve last league appearance was the loss against stoke city and then suddenly he was back into the startling lineup.

"Suddenly"

7 weeks and 7 league games later is not suddenly.

[mart]

He will have had a season to look at a lot of the players close up and I think this summer is when he will really put his stamp on the squad and wouldn't be surprised if we are really busy with both outgoing/incoming transfers.

So far out of all the players Rodgers has bought only Sturridge seem to be a genuine first team choice.

[Reg]

Deep breaths Mart, its a long road.

[heimdall]

I could see the thinking of starting Shelvey. He's not light-weight and against a physical side like West Brom may be useful. I thought we were excellent defensively until the double substitution. He high pressing was forcing WBA to play long and we were winning every long ball. BUT the problem was with the lineup was in the attack. I would have liked to see us start with Borini for Sturridge and the lineup we've been playing.

Yeah becuase Borini was frigging amazing when he came on wasn't he???
The reality is that almost all the players Rodgers has brought in have been duds with the exception of Sturridge and its way too soon to comment on Coutinho.
Brendan definitely lacks the ability to fire up his troops, just think back to the last time we came roaring out in the secodn half, yeah I'm struggling with that one as well. He is not a bad manager but he has a hell of a lot of learning left to do, I really despair for this club becuase I'm convinced we'll loose a lot of our top players in the summer and I have zero confidence that Brendan will replace them with what we need.