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[LFC2007]

I think it was obvious Bellamy was on his way out after the training camp incident in Portugal. As for players in as I've said many times I'd like to see us sign Matty Taylor from Portsmouth and Morten Gamst Pedersen looks like he could do a job on our left.

1) What about the likes of Joaquin who we were after a couple of years ago, I don't know much about him so is worth having?
2) James Milner is a lad who is thought to have a bright future would he worth signing? IMO no but some might like him
3) Aaron Lennon--possibly out of reach because Spurs don't want to see their best players
4) Defoe is always linked with us but I wouldn't like him at Anfield
5) Phillip Lahm is a player I've been impressed with and he may be a good signing for us as a new full back

I don't think Bellamy is as poor as some make out, I thought for £6m you couldn't get much better at the time. We needed a player with pace, touch and finishing ability and he fit the bill at the time.

[Fowler_E7]

i find it amusing that people say Bellamy is average and poor...yet a few months were arguing for Fowler to be given a new contract.

well seing as Fowler scored nearly the same amount of goals as Bellamy in about 1/3 of the apearances, i can see why people, ,myself included wanted Fowler to stay. Let me guess you think Bellamy's good coz he's fast and Fowlers poor coz he's slow. Typical

Fowler wasn't just slow...he was past it and was an embarressment in the league where he failed to score ANY goals in open play. I was away at Everton and i have to say watching Fowler play was like watching a car crash. Bellamy gave 100% and could play on the wing as well as up front.  He had pace and he had fitness...he could play 90 mins running his socks off....Fowler couldn't do ANY of that and he was living off the past, hence no one wants him since Rafa sent him packing.

He's a legend...i accept that, but so is Ian Rush...but i would want him playing up front with Torres next season.

Bellamy gave 100%, so what. Robbie Fowler gave 100%, id give 100% even u would if you played for Liverpool. Dosnt mean your good enough, What ever Fowlers faults he could score goals, and always looked likely of that, plus he got like 5 league starts, Bellamy must have got at least 20. Bellamy hit the target about once every 5 attempts, and dont get me started on the amount times he was offside. He's an average player who belongs at an average team. But no ur right he's fast and he gives 100% so he must be good right? why dont we sign Dwayne Chambers as well, he's quick and is available.

[LFC2007]

i find it amusing that people say Bellamy is average and poor...yet a few months were arguing for Fowler to be given a new contract.

well seing as Fowler scored nearly the same amount of goals as Bellamy in about 1/3 of the apearances, i can see why people, ,myself included wanted Fowler to stay. Let me guess you think Bellamy's good coz he's fast and Fowlers poor coz he's slow. Typical

Fowler wasn't just slow...he was past it and was an embarressment in the league where he failed to score ANY goals in open play. I was away at Everton and i have to say watching Fowler play was like watching a car crash. Bellamy gave 100% and could play on the wing as well as up front.  He had pace and he had fitness...he could play 90 mins running his socks off....Fowler couldn't do ANY of that and he was living off the past, hence no one wants him since Rafa sent him packing.

He's a legend...i accept that, but so is Ian Rush...but i would want him playing up front with Torres next season.

We've got to be realistic and see past the sentiment, and that is what Kewell is trying to point out. Fowler is not the player he was, he is significantly slower and nowhere near as mobile as what we need up front. He's a legend, but way past his best and that's why he wasn't given a new contract with us.

[Fowler_E7]

i find it amusing that people say Bellamy is average and poor...yet a few months were arguing for Fowler to be given a new contract.

well seing as Fowler scored nearly the same amount of goals as Bellamy in about 1/3 of the apearances, i can see why people, ,myself included wanted Fowler to stay. Let me guess you think Bellamy's good coz he's fast and Fowlers poor coz he's slow. Typical

Fowler wasn't just slow...he was past it and was an embarressment in the league where he failed to score ANY goals in open play. I was away at Everton and i have to say watching Fowler play was like watching a car crash. Bellamy gave 100% and could play on the wing as well as up front.  He had pace and he had fitness...he could play 90 mins running his socks off....Fowler couldn't do ANY of that and he was living off the past, hence no one wants him since Rafa sent him packing.

He's a legend...i accept that, but so is Ian Rush...but i would want him playing up front with Torres next season.

We've got to be realistic and see past the sentiment, and that is what Kewell is trying to point out. Fowler is not the player he was, he is significantly slower and nowhere near as mobile as what we need up front. He's a legend, but way past his best and that's why he wasn't given a new contract with us.

Fowler past his best was still a far better play than Craig Bellamy, who is average at best. Bellamy will be finished as soon as his pace diminshes as he has nothing else to his game apart from running around like a headless chicken

[LFC2007]

Fowler past his best was still a far better play than Craig Bellamy, who is average at best. Bellamy will be finished as soon as his pace diminshes as he has nothing else to his game apart from running around like a headless chicken

Fair enough, that's your opinion. If you gave me Fowler now or Bellamy now I'd take Bellamy hands down.

[7_Kewell]

i'm not saying either are good enough for Liverpool....but to read bellamy being made out to be a terrible player is cr*p.

For 6 million he was a good signing and fitted the bill at the time. For me, last season we saw Gonzalez, Zenden and Fowler...all of who were the worst players i've seen in a liverpool shirt for a years. Bellamy wasn't brilliant...but if he stayed i wouldn't be upset.

[Fowler_E7]

i'm not saying either are good enough for Liverpool....but to read bellamy being made out to be a terrible player is cr*p.

For 6 million he was a good signing and fitted the bill at the time. For me, last season we saw Gonzalez, Zenden and Fowler...all of who were the worst players i've seen in a liverpool shirt for a years. Bellamy wasn't brilliant...but if he stayed i wouldn't be upset.

Fowler the worst player in a Liverpool shirt in years? pah

Any way each to there own, but in my mind only a few things matter when it comes to playing upfront, scoring goals and creating chances. Fowler could do both, Bellamy couldnt do either, and im delighted that he will soon be leaving.

[7_Kewell]

i'm not saying either are good enough for Liverpool....but to read bellamy being made out to be a terrible player is cr*p.

For 6 million he was a good signing and fitted the bill at the time. For me, last season we saw Gonzalez, Zenden and Fowler...all of who were the worst players i've seen in a liverpool shirt for a years. Bellamy wasn't brilliant...but if he stayed i wouldn't be upset.

Fowler the worst player in a Liverpool shirt in years? pah

Any way each to there own, but in my mind only a few things matter when it comes to playing upfront, scoring goals and creating chances. Fowler could do both, Bellamy couldnt do either, and im delighted that he will soon be leaving.

indeed, each to their own...but i was as glad to see Fowler leave as you'll be to see Bellamy go. The only difference is there'll be no shortage of takers for Craig.

Either way, our team will be stronger for it as Crouch/Kuyt and Torres up front will be a good strikeforce.

[Paul C]

Bellamy's a victim of:

1) His very slow start
2) The fact that teams sit deep against us (giving him no room to run in behind and capitalize on his pace)
3) A rotation policy that monkeyed with his form and mentality
4) His own off-field antics (the nutter with the putter...)
5) New owners who are prepared to splash the cash on top drawer players (I doubt he'd have been surplus to requirements if H&G hadn't arrived)

He'll be sold to a mid-table club, he'll mouth off to the press about Rafa and then he'll settle in and start scoring again because he'll have returned to his proper level.  I was happy to sign him last year given our budget constraints but I'm happy to move him on now given our greater ambitions in the transfer market and, indeed, on the pitch.  Tara Craig and thanks for the memory (Nou Camp)!

Too true Stu, 100% spot on!! 

Hope you had a condom on that tongue .

Jeallousy is a terrible thing Woof 

Maybe I missed something , the post was from Bad Bob and you're reply was "Too tru Stu" , I thought maybe you'd gone up the wrong hole    . Hence the condom alert. 

Cos Bad Boy is 'Stu The Red' if I'm correct 

[El Nino_#9]

a bit of a shame for bellamy; i really rated the fella when he arrived, however admitidley, the majority of his performances were under par to say the least and will be remembered as a bogey buy.

i can see us swapping bellamy for a bit of cash and benayoun or even swapping bellamy in a straight swap with either bentley or gamst pederson. either of the two would be ideal

all the best bellers. thanks for the memory (nou camp)

[Bad Bob]

Maybe I missed something , the post was from Bad Bob and you're reply was "Too tru Stu" , I thought maybe you'd gone up the wrong hole    . Hence the condom alert. 

Cos Bad Boy is 'Stu The Red' if I'm correct 

Ermmm, no.   

[The Manhattan Project]

Bellamy was just a make-weight.

Someone Rafa signed to replace someone worse, but only there until he found someone better.

[account deleted by request]

Maybe I missed something , the post was from Bad Bob and you're reply was "Too tru Stu" , I thought maybe you'd gone up the wrong hole    . Hence the condom alert. 

Cos Bad Boy is 'Stu The Red' if I'm correct 

Ermmm, no.   

You're fooling no-one with that fake Canadian accent Bob 
(or should it be Badboy now? )


GoodBob was Stu, BadBob doesn't know enough swear words to be Stu 

[babu]

GoodBob was Stu, BadBob doesn't know enough swear words to be Stu 

yeah.

and besides, one is a balding red nut and the other is a gay porn star look-alike.

[The_Rock]

It's obvious that as the "pacy striker" role Torres is light years better, and that he's a more worthy talent  for Liverpool than Bellamy is, but at the same time, I cannot say many bad things about what I've seen of Bellamy this season, I saw him working hard in the pitch...

i hope u are right..... bellamy came in as a 6 million pound sigining.... He did pretty well when he was given a chance to play by rafa. The problem bellamy had here last season was that he wasn't given a run of 10 games to prove himself. If he had played the number of games kujt had...i am sure he would have scored a lot more goals (even more than kujt tally of 14 goals..IMO).

I am with kewell_7 in this one. I think bellamy is technically better than kujt and crouch. His close control of the ball when running at full speed is good. Not many players can do that.

Torres comes as a 20 million pound signing. Hope he is way better than bellamy .....