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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:16 pm

I'd love Gerrard to have a crack at it eventually. After watching his documentary I felt like the club let him down with so many empty promises. He deserves success from the loyalty he showed as a player through his career.

That being said we can't let Klopp go anywhere. He's adored here and rightfully so. He's brought so much joy here and it seems like such a good environment to be around.

Fingers crossed he extends.
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Postby Eagle » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:44 pm

Klopp is already one of the best paid managers in the world and if he signed a new contract he would probably be the best paid manager in the world at that time until another high profile manager signed a new contract. Don't think he'll be influenced much by money. Sounds like he made certain promises to his wife which he went back on when he got the call from us. He'll be 57 when his contract finishes. We might get a couple of more years out of his but I can't see him here in his 60s.
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Postby kazza » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:00 pm

I have noticed he has looked more tired/old lately. He is the type that goes all in so he may be looking forward to that break, I hope not as he has been a revelation.
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Postby Reg » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:45 pm

Eagle » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:44 pm wrote:Klopp is already one of the best paid managers in the world and if he signed a new contract he would probably be the best paid manager in the world at that time until another high profile manager signed a new contract. Don't think he'll be influenced much by money. Sounds like he made certain promises to his wife which he went back on when he got the call from us. He'll be 57 when his contract finishes. We might get a couple of more years out of his but I can't see him here in his 60s.

Klopp made a total (basic + bonuses) 16 million quid last year so if he's swayed by cash he will stay, if he wants to walk away then likewise he will because he won't need the money by that stage.  16m = 307,000 per week.  :buttrock
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Postby kazza » Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:59 pm

Reg » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:45 pm wrote:
Eagle » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:44 pm wrote:Klopp is already one of the best paid managers in the world and if he signed a new contract he would probably be the best paid manager in the world at that time until another high profile manager signed a new contract. Don't think he'll be influenced much by money. Sounds like he made certain promises to his wife which he went back on when he got the call from us. He'll be 57 when his contract finishes. We might get a couple of more years out of his but I can't see him here in his 60s.

Klopp made a total (basic + bonuses) 16 million quid last year so if he's swayed by cash he will stay, if he wants to walk away then likewise he will because he won't need the money by that stage.  16m = 307,000 per week.  :buttrock

So if he spent a million a year for his living expenses then he’ll still have 15 million, over the 5 years of the contract that is a kitty in his bank of 75million. If I had 75 million in the bank I’d quit the stresses of work and go fishing, I wouldn’t blame him if he did leave.

It is bigger than money however it’s about legacy, it’s about being remembered as I don’t think he would do better than Liverpool. He was a revelation for us as he gave us all that we needed but we were also a revelation for him as we also gave him everything he needed. I cannot see any other club fitting so well with him and his style from the owners down to the supporters. International football will not give him what he wants as he seems more about being with the boys. Klopp is a fantastic manager but there is also an element as right time right place for both the club and the manager. At Dortmund they routinely sold their best players, same cannot be said for Liverpool.
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Postby Eagle » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:52 am

This is being widely reported by all of the reputable journalists who report on the club. If we can get another 2 years out of Klopp that takes him to 2026 that would top any trophy we can win this year. He's a one in a million.

Liverpool open talks to extend Jürgen Klopp’s contract beyond 2024

- FSG president was at Villarreal game with manager’s agent
- Owners encouraged by comments Klopp made last month


Liverpool’s owner, Fenway Sports Group, has opened talks about extending Jürgen Klopp’s contract beyond 2024.

FSG’s president, Mike Gordon, travelled from Boston to Anfield for Wednesday’s Champions League semi-final first leg against Villarreal, where a 2-0 victory kept Liverpool on course for an unprecedented quadruple. Klopp’s agent, Marc Kosicke, was sitting a few seats away from Gordon and it is understood a contract extension for Liverpool’s figurehead manager was on their agenda.

Liverpool’s owners have long hoped the 54-year-old would sign another contract with the club he has revitalised since his arrival in October 2015. They were encouraged by comments Klopp made last month, when he said he could sign a new deal at the “last minute” depending on his energy levels and enthusiasm for the job, and have moved while the manager is open to the idea.

Klopp admitted he had been exhausted by last season, when multiple injuries damaged the team’s defence of the Premier League title and the pandemic forced football behind closed doors. But in early March, asked about staying beyond 2024, he said: “If I have the energy levels for it. That is important. I love what I do but I’ve said a couple of times there must be something else out there in the world, to be honest, apart from always thinking about properly skilled, good-looking, fantastically nice football players. But I really don’t think about it.

“At the moment I am full of energy but we have to – I have to – make sure that is the case because I don’t want to sit around and be more tired than others and think: ‘Wow, why is everyone bothered about the things out there because I couldn’t care less?’”

Liverpool’s outstanding form this season – they have won the Carabao Cup, face Chelsea in the FA Cup final, trail Manchester City by one point in the title race with five games left and are on course for a third Champions League final appearance in five seasons – has helped to re-energise Klopp. But he has also been enthused by the club’s long-term planning. The recruitment of Luis Díaz and Ibrahima Konaté has helped freshen the side, a deal is in place for Fulham’s Fabio Carvalho and there is interest in the Monaco midfielder Aurélien Tchouaméni, who is also coveted by Real Madrid. Work on the new Anfield Road stand is also well under way.

There are other factors beyond Klopp’s energy levels surrounding a contract extension, however. The Liverpool manager is likely to want his trusted assistants Pepijn Lijnders and Peter Krawietz to commit their long-term futures to Anfield as well.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... eyond-2024
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Postby kazza » Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:57 pm

And if true you would think the owners will keep improving the squad to keep him motivated, that can only be a good thing for us supporters.
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Postby Eagle » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:19 pm

Sounds like it's done and about to be announced! I wonder if this will be the catalyst for Salah and Mane to sign.
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Postby kazza » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:10 pm

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Postby kazza » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:31 pm

Inside Jurgen Klopp's new Liverpool contract including FSG's future transfer promises
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has signed a new contract to remain at Anfield until 2026 having had all the assurances he needs from the owners FSG over the club's future

ByDavid MaddockNorthern football correspondent
15:49, 28 Apr 2022UPDATED16:33, 28 Apr 2022


The clues were subtle, almost imperceptible, but had those who know him well enough looked closely enough, then there were hints that Jurgen Klopp’s mindset on his future was changing.

He has been visibly more relaxed in recent weeks, at ease with himself, and with his position as the orchestrator of the greatest attempt so far on the impossible football dream of the quadruple.

He had looked tired, occasionally drained, in the early months of 2022, which is why so many believed - when he said so bluntly and openly his idea was to leave Liverpool in 2024 - that he would stick to that plan.

Yet in recent weeks, his demeanour has changed, his mood and body language lifted. Not only was he comfortable with the insane schedule of playing every game it is possible for a club to play this season…but he appeared to be relishing it. In fact, he is loving it. He loves working with a remarkable group of players, a tight-knit, talented and loyal staff, with owners who respect and admire him, and with a fanbase who not just adore him, but cherish and even worship him.

This is presumably why it was Klopp who approached FSG's Mike Gordon, the man who runs Liverpool, to suggest that he would be open to accepting a new contract after all, despite his reluctance to discuss it when the club had put - and left - the idea on the table. Make no mistake, the owners of Liverpool are desperate for him to stay. They have made no secret of that, and why wouldn’t they? He is one of the all-time great managers, but not just that. He is the perfect 21st century manager.

He possesses all the traditional abilities, a supreme motivator with outstanding player-management skills, an intelligent adaptive coach with a modern understanding of tactics and medicine. And he possesses what most managers don’t in this new age of football, which is the ability to understand complex analysis, digest it into his own tactical and technical thinking, but crucially, to then convey that information in a way his players easily understand.


Liverpool’s owners, FSG, understand better than most the direction sport is travelling in terms of analytics, and they understand that to have a manager with traditional qualities who is cutting edge in his methods is priceless. This is why they were prepared to pay whatever Klopp wanted to keep him at the club for longer. Not that he is interested in being the highest-paid manager in football, or anything like that. He knows his worth, he will accept payment commensurate with his role, but it has never been about money with him.

It is about the project, it is about his ‘boys’, his team and his club, and his connection with the fans. He has what he always wanted as a football manager at Anfield, and he simply decided that he couldn’t turn his back on it yet. This is a team many seasoned, cynical, pundits are now saying is the greatest in Liverpool’s illustrious history. When Graeme Souness says something like that, it is time to listen.

Klopp has crafted that team, has created it along with his coaching, technical, medical and analytics staff. He may not have won as much as Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Kenny Dalglish - yet - but he is already alongside them. This team is as good as any, as Shankly’s great 1960s side, Paisley’s magnificent team of the early 1980s, Dalglish’s maestros of the late 1980s. They are the three best, and this side is their equal, no doubt.


There is also no doubt this squad is the best in Liverpool history, and that is another reason Klopp has chosen to stay. He has crafted a quite wondrous team, and one that has a new found maturity to add to its sublime quality. Yet beyond that, he is already building the next great team. He has signed young players like Diogo Jota, Ibrahima Konate and Luis Diaz to smoothly transition in alongside his current stars, and his exciting crop of home grown or home-developed talent. He wants to finish that job. He wants to win now and build for the future, so that even when he leaves (perhaps in 2026, but who knows!) the club is left in rude health for his successor, whom you suspect Klopp will want to come from his current staff.

But most of all, he wants to win, of course. This season has refreshed his burning appetite. His plan to leave was always based on the notion of a shelf life, and his idea that he wouldn’t be able to sustain his remarkable energies without a break. Yet they are already guaranteed to play every single game they can this season bar one. And they will go all the way in every single competition they have entered if they avoid defeat, or lose by a single goal in Villarreal next week. That puts what Klopp has done into context. No team has still been chasing the big trophy quadruple at this stage of the season. Not in England. Not in Europe. And he has achieved that, even with one of the greatest teams of all time in Manchester City as a rival.

Why end that prematurely? In the end, he realised he shouldn’t….he couldn’t. This offers some clues about Liverpool over the next four years. Even if their glorious quadruple bid ultimately fails, Klopp believes he has the appetite to win more trophies with Liverpool. And crucially, he believes this current team STILL has the same appetite too. Which could see Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane, and even Roberto Firmino all sign new contracts in the summer. Perhaps Naby Keita and James Milner too, because the manager believes he has the perfect balance at present.


He also believes that with the bigger, better squad he has created with a frightening amount of depth that rivals even City’s immense breadth of talent, his stars can play on well into their 30s. Interestingly, the likes of Joel Matip and Keita are proof of that, at very different ages. Both have been prone to injury in the hectic, intense schedule of the Premier League. Yet this season, with the ability to rotate them regularly, both have enjoyed by far their best run without injury. With the supreme athleticism of his front three, the same could apply. Klopp has said he can see all of them playing until their mid-30s and beyond, and that is surely a factor in his decision, especially with Jota and Diaz there to supplement and challenge them. He will also get the chance to sign young players to enhance his squad, and develop it for the future too, with the likes of Jude Bellingham and Aurelian Tchouaméni very much on the radar. It is a mouth-watering prospect, before you even consider that some huge names will want to join this project.

Everything told Klopp that this is the perfect environment for him, the perfect squad, the perfect conditions, and the perfect home. And in the end he realised he couldn’t turn his back on that yet. Not with more still to achieve. There is one other factor to consider in his decision too. Liverpool are far from having the perfect owners, given they are a group of corporate capitalist Americans with no connection to the city or fans, and with the ultimate aim of making as much money as possible from their investment in the ‘sports business’.

Yet by comparison to the oligarchs, nation-states with dubious human rights records, and vulture capitalists who inhabit the top of the sport, they are relatively benign businessmen, who run a tight ship and don’t spend vast sums of their own cash simply to sportswash their regimes. To be able to not only compete against these clubs, but actually beat them, to show it is possible to do it with a self-sufficient football business which he ensures personally is not just about corporate greed (albeit a still inherently globally massive and therefore wealthy club), appeals to him. Klopp is a Christian, and he is a socialist in the Shankly sense of the word. He believes in people. He believes in THE people. He believes in the goodness of people, and he believes in making them happy, as Liverpool’s greatest manager did. Right now he has the chance to do that without selling his soul, and that is something he realises he can not turn his back on anytime soon
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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:05 pm

Fu*King brilliant news.
“You cannot transfer the heart and soul of Liverpool Football Club, although I am sure there are many clubs who would like to buy it.”
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Postby devaney » Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Fantastic news !! He might be keeping his wife happy but I think there are a few million fans around the world that are just a little bit ecstatic as well  :nod
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Postby redshade » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:21 am

Awesome news, Klopp wants to create a dynasty here... Hopefully plenty more glory.
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Postby red till i die!! » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:52 pm

Didn't think he'd sign an extension but am absolutely thrilled that he did!!. 

Imo he is a legend already and not just for what we have won but also in the relationship he has built with the city and fans. If we do the unthinkable this season the man will become immortal!! :buttrock
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:11 pm

In the 80's there was a film called weird science where a couple of teenage lads create the perfect woman, if there was a sequel where they had to create the perfect manager Jürgen would pretty much be it.
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