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[maypaxvobiscum]

@Bretc ,The most fair, and balanced post in the last few pages 

[friendlyguy33]

The bad luck argument can only work so many times. These are professional footballers they have to be more accurate with their shooting or heading at the end of the day. Also when you hit the woodwork so many times it's usually because most of those chances are only half chances.

[Benny The Noon]

Many posters have said in the past, that the League Cup is an opportunity for the team to blood the youngsters, and play the reserves. They also said the same thing concerning the Europa League. So now just because Liverpool have won the cup, it's suddenly a big deal? Why so? This competition was never taken seriously by many of the bigger clubs. Look no further than Arsenal's 6-3 trashing of us in the competition in 2007 when both teams played their reserves. Now I know why many fans of other clubs say that we Liverpool fans live in the past, because we do. We keep giving them 5 fingers to signify the success of a competition we're miles away from even qualifying for. We remind them how we won it 18 times but when was the last title? This season we're probably gonna finish 8th or 9th, below teams like Everton, and possibly Fulham. While other teams are focused on finishing in the top 4, or winning the title, some of you are satisfied with mid-table mediocrity and winning a cup which never had any appeal until this season. We need a new manager with a vision, not a caretaker who was out of the job for a decade. I don't see any reason to believe Kenny will perform better if given the chance next season. As far as I'm concerned, any manager who trades Aquilani, Meireles and Joe Cole for exorbitant purchases in Henderson, Adam and Downing needs their heads checked.

Where has anyone said they are satisfied with this season ?

When did Joe Cole become our saviour ? He produced nothing last season at a cost of a 100 grand a week. He did nothing of note for us and didn't for numerous years before that. Aquilani also did nothing of note and wanted to leave the country. Merieles was and still is an enigma - looks good for a couple games then disappears for the season just like he did for us last year.

Now the signings made have so far been disappointing lets not rewrite history about 3 guys who were poor for us and needed replacing.

We hadnt win a trophy for 6 years so whilst the league cup isn't the title or CL it is still a trophy that was earnt by the club and was celebrated.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Have to agree with the issue concerning his handling of the media. Kenny has come across as a miserable git in interviews.. smarta$$ responses as opposed to playing the game. Its not just the handling of the Suarez affair that made us incredibly unpopular (not that i give a sh1t tbh), Kenny has been the public face of the club, and a right miserable narky one its been. He's been naive beyond belief.. and i put this down to over a decade outside the game. 15-20 years ago you could get away with it, but nowadays the media glare is constant (its a different game) and you have to deal with them as opposed to fob them off in a condescending manner. He's come across as a dinosaur who hasn't moved with the times.. understandable to an extent given how long hes been out.

This season, on and off the field, he couldn't have handled things worse...bar his continuous support of the fans which has been top class.

ferguson has treated the press with utter contempt for donkeys years and they wouldnt dare ask him a difficult question because they know they`ll be banned from old trafford. he even blanked the bbc for well over a decade even though he was contractually obliged to speak to them. it hasnt done him or manchester united any harm.
the truth is it doesnt matter how you treat the press or what you say to the press just as long as you get it right on the pitch, when kenny won things in the 80`s they fawned over him even though he couldnt stand them and gave them one word answers and in the modern era the press have fawned over ferguson even though he treats them like something he stood in.
there was a time when kenny was admired for his beligerence towards the press by our fans, that same press kicked f**k out of this city and this club for donkeys years so his `get f**ked` attitude towards them struck a chord with supporters.
these days it`s a lot different, but a lot of our `fans` dont know enough about the city and the club and the culture of the place.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

It's absolutely shocking RBG. I can't comprehend the mentality mate at all and I'm shocked at what some of the forum members actually say out loud on here. D__C and that numpty Boxscarf and one or two others really make my blood boil and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Kenny is human and is not perfect but pulling Kenny down for signing players who lets face it were on top of their games and we're touted as some of the best prospects this country had to offer at the time is ridiculus. I'd be prepared to say that Kenny stepped up to the job when no one else would touch it accept Hodgson and I would wager a bet that if we'd of continued with Hodgson we might not of even been in the Premier league this season. We were heading down. Kenny came in and balanced the ship, the owners rewarded him with a contract, he's made some mistakes and the going has been tough this season but he got us a cup win, in the final of the FA Cup and we are making steady progress. Sort the league form out, couple of top mark signings, widen the goal posts a bit    and away we go again next season. Lets hope for a better league form.

and for that reason Kenny is our best choice for manager and God bless him for that.

You're definitely not alone there mate , I'm  guessing they believe the more they whine and moan about Dalglish the more posters will listen .
The truth being the fans who follow Liverpool home and away have already decided he's staying .

It seems they will have to continue stamping their little UGG boots in anger ,and shed even more tears onto their respective pillows 

[supersub]

It's absolutely shocking RBG. I can't comprehend the mentality mate at all and I'm shocked at what some of the forum members actually say out loud on here. D__C and that numpty Boxscarf and one or two others really make my blood boil and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Kenny is human and is not perfect but pulling Kenny down for signing players who lets face it were on top of their games and we're touted as some of the best prospects this country had to offer at the time is ridiculus. I'd be prepared to say that Kenny stepped up to the job when no one else would touch it accept Hodgson and I would wager a bet that if we'd of continued with Hodgson we might not of even been in the Premier league this season. We were heading down. Kenny came in and balanced the ship, the owners rewarded him with a contract, he's made some mistakes and the going has been tough this season but he got us a cup win, in the final of the FA Cup and we are making steady progress. Sort the league form out, couple of top mark signings, widen the goal posts a bit    and away we go again next season. Lets hope for a better league form.

and for that reason Kenny is our best choice for manager and God bless him for that.

You're definitely not alone there mate , I'm  guessing they believe the more they whine and moan about Dalglish the more posters will listen .
The truth being the fans who follow Liverpool home and away have already decided he's staying .

It seems they will have to continue stamping their little UGG boots in anger ,and shed even more tears onto their respective pillows 

[neil]

here we go again, any non worship is jumped on, constructive observation ridiculed, daggers drawn wtfever. We're mid table and getting worse regardless of anything else, I pray Kenny goes back upstairs ala Cryuff, Beckenbaur Charlton etc and we get back to this century. Thats the last on the subject from me. Any name calling can be blown outya ar53.

[D___C]

Have to agree with the issue concerning his handling of the media. Kenny has come across as a miserable git in interviews.. smarta$$ responses as opposed to playing the game. Its not just the handling of the Suarez affair that made us incredibly unpopular (not that i give a sh1t tbh), Kenny has been the public face of the club, and a right miserable narky one its been. He's been naive beyond belief.. and i put this down to over a decade outside the game. 15-20 years ago you could get away with it, but nowadays the media glare is constant (its a different game) and you have to deal with them as opposed to fob them off in a condescending manner. He's come across as a dinosaur who hasn't moved with the times.. understandable to an extent given how long hes been out.

This season, on and off the field, he couldn't have handled things worse...bar his continuous support of the fans which has been top class.

ferguson has treated the press with utter contempt for donkeys years and they wouldnt dare ask him a difficult question because they know they`ll be banned from old trafford. he even blanked the bbc for well over a decade even though he was contractually obliged to speak to them. it hasnt done him or manchester united any harm.
the truth is it doesnt matter how you treat the press or what you say to the press just as long as you get it right on the pitch, when kenny won things in the 80`s they fawned over him even though he couldnt stand them and gave them one word answers and in the modern era the press have fawned over ferguson even though he treats them like something he stood in.
there was a time when kenny was admired for his beligerence towards the press by our fans, that same press kicked f**k out of this city and this club for donkeys years so his `get f**ked` attitude towards them struck a chord with supporters.
these days it`s a lot different, but a lot of our `fans` dont know enough about the city and the club and the culture of the place.

One key difference though.. Ferguson can do and say as he pleases as he is winning every week. He can come out with any old ***** and in any manner he wants.. and it will be viewed upon as being "clever Fergie"... anyone else does it they get massacred. To get to that privileged position you have to be successful. If you are doing terribly you aint in a position to be narky or condescending to the media. Mourinho is in a similar boat to Ferguson.. he can do and say what he likes because hes winning. If you are losing on a regular basis and you give back smart A$$ comments you can hardly expect the media vultures to turn a blind eye.. you have to play the game otherwise you will get pummeled.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Have to agree with the issue concerning his handling of the media. Kenny has come across as a miserable git in interviews.. smarta$$ responses as opposed to playing the game. Its not just the handling of the Suarez affair that made us incredibly unpopular (not that i give a sh1t tbh), Kenny has been the public face of the club, and a right miserable narky one its been. He's been naive beyond belief.. and i put this down to over a decade outside the game. 15-20 years ago you could get away with it, but nowadays the media glare is constant (its a different game) and you have to deal with them as opposed to fob them off in a condescending manner. He's come across as a dinosaur who hasn't moved with the times.. understandable to an extent given how long hes been out.

This season, on and off the field, he couldn't have handled things worse...bar his continuous support of the fans which has been top class.

ferguson has treated the press with utter contempt for donkeys years and they wouldnt dare ask him a difficult question because they know they`ll be banned from old trafford. he even blanked the bbc for well over a decade even though he was contractually obliged to speak to them. it hasnt done him or manchester united any harm.
the truth is it doesnt matter how you treat the press or what you say to the press just as long as you get it right on the pitch, when kenny won things in the 80`s they fawned over him even though he couldnt stand them and gave them one word answers and in the modern era the press have fawned over ferguson even though he treats them like something he stood in.
there was a time when kenny was admired for his beligerence towards the press by our fans, that same press kicked f**k out of this city and this club for donkeys years so his `get f**ked` attitude towards them struck a chord with supporters.
these days it`s a lot different, but a lot of our `fans` dont know enough about the city and the club and the culture of the place.

One key difference though.. Ferguson can do and say as he pleases as he is winning every week. He can come out with any old ***** and in any manner he wants.. and it will be viewed upon as being "clever Fergie"... anyone else does it they get massacred. To get to that privileged position you have to be successful. If you are doing terribly you aint in a position to be narky or condescending to the media. Mourinho is in a similar boat to Ferguson.. he can do and say what he likes because hes winning. If you are losing on a regular basis and you give back smart A$$ comments you can hardly expect the media vultures to turn a blind eye.. you have to play the game otherwise you will get pummeled.

You used to employ similar venom to denigrate Carroll .... I'm guessing Dalglish is now your primary target ? Especially now we have  all firmly established
the extent of your football nous with regards to the playing staff is fucking  ZILCH  

[Thommo's perm]

RBG
You dawg you...

[banana(real one)]

I see Kenny is still the recipient of such much needed praise from our most respected forum members and regular match goers .
Some of the character assassinations that are being allowed in this thread would give the Daily Fail scribes a permanent hard on .

Disgraceful 

It's absolutely shocking RBG. I can't comprehend the mentality mate at all and I'm shocked at what some of the forum members actually say out loud on here. D__C and that numpty Boxscarf and one or two others really make my blood boil and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Kenny is human and is not perfect but pulling Kenny down for signing players who lets face it were on top of their games and we're touted as some of the best prospects this country had to offer at the time is ridiculus. I'd be prepared to say that Kenny stepped up to the job when no one else would touch it accept Hodgson and I would wager a bet that if we'd of continued with Hodgson we might not of even been in the Premier league this season. We were heading down. Kenny came in and balanced the ship, the owners rewarded him with a contract, he's made some mistakes and the going has been tough this season but he got us a cup win, in the final of the FA Cup and we are making steady progress. Sort the league form out, couple of top mark signings, widen the goal posts a bit    and away we go again next season. Lets hope for a better league form.

and for that reason Kenny is our best choice for manager and God bless him for that.

You are seriously deluded if you think Carroll, Adam, Downing and Henderson were on top of their game and touted as the finest this league had to offer. Seriously man. A fat slow midfielder with no class bar his free kicks. A U20 midfielder getting destroyed by his european fellows in the EC for that age (the brits hardly was allowed to touch the ball) and Carroll with a dozen games to his name and tried to move for about 2 millions before Kenny showed up. Don't get me started onn that dinosaur or the uruguayan defender.

[friendlyguy33]

I see Kenny is still the recipient of such much needed praise from our most respected forum members and regular match goers .
Some of the character assassinations that are being allowed in this thread would give the Daily Fail scribes a permanent hard on .

Disgraceful 

It's absolutely shocking RBG. I can't comprehend the mentality mate at all and I'm shocked at what some of the forum members actually say out loud on here. D__C and that numpty Boxscarf and one or two others really make my blood boil and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Kenny is human and is not perfect but pulling Kenny down for signing players who lets face it were on top of their games and we're touted as some of the best prospects this country had to offer at the time is ridiculus. I'd be prepared to say that Kenny stepped up to the job when no one else would touch it accept Hodgson and I would wager a bet that if we'd of continued with Hodgson we might not of even been in the Premier league this season. We were heading down. Kenny came in and balanced the ship, the owners rewarded him with a contract, he's made some mistakes and the going has been tough this season but he got us a cup win, in the final of the FA Cup and we are making steady progress. Sort the league form out, couple of top mark signings, widen the goal posts a bit    and away we go again next season. Lets hope for a better league form.

and for that reason Kenny is our best choice for manager and God bless him for that.

You are seriously deluded if you think Carroll, Adam, Downing and Henderson were on top of their game and touted as the finest this league had to offer. Seriously man. A fat slow midfielder with no class bar his free kicks. A U20 midfielder getting destroyed by his european fellows in the EC for that age (the brits hardly was allowed to touch the ball) and Carroll with a dozen games to his name and tried to move for about 2 millions before Kenny showed up. Don't get me started onn that dinosaur or the uruguayan defender.

They were't necessarily on top of their game they were identified as being players who could add something to the squad last season after the H&G era had left us with a load of deadwood. Basically Commolli and Kenny saw these four players have a few good games last season in the premiership and thought that if we signed them we could compete with the likes of Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal and get back into the top four. It was a mistaken strategy.

Only Carroll comes out of this season with any promise for the long term. Without the two cup finals reached this season Kenny would almost certainly be dead in the water. If a new manager comes in during the summer I doubt whether Downing and Adam would survive even Henderson would probably be sold as well. Enrique who started the season quite well was clearly an over-rated player then. He didn't do that great going forward in enough games but because we were winning games then and still in touch with the top four his flaws weren't seen. As soon as we started losing games after Christmas his confidence and form got worse he was shown up bigtime on saturday against Ramires for the first goal. Seriously I think Riise, Dossena and Aurelio are all better left backs than Enrique he looks an awful player.

It's hard to see what is really going to change under Kenny going forward long term. If the owners do decide to persist with him I suspect he's probably got until Christmas to get it right. The first ten games of next season could even decide it.

[Octsky]

It's absolutely shocking RBG. I can't comprehend the mentality mate at all and I'm shocked at what some of the forum members actually say out loud on here. D__C and that numpty Boxscarf and one or two others really make my blood boil and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Kenny is human and is not perfect but pulling Kenny down for signing players who lets face it were on top of their games and we're touted as some of the best prospects this country had to offer at the time is ridiculus. I'd be prepared to say that Kenny stepped up to the job when no one else would touch it accept Hodgson and I would wager a bet that if we'd of continued with Hodgson we might not of even been in the Premier league this season. We were heading down. Kenny came in and balanced the ship, the owners rewarded him with a contract, he's made some mistakes and the going has been tough this season but he got us a cup win, in the final of the FA Cup and we are making steady progress. Sort the league form out, couple of top mark signings, widen the goal posts a bit    and away we go again next season. Lets hope for a better league form.

and for that reason Kenny is our best choice for manager and God bless him for that.

You're definitely not alone there mate , I'm  guessing they believe the more they whine and moan about Dalglish the more posters will listen .
The truth being the fans who follow Liverpool home and away have already decided he's staying .

It seems they will have to continue stamping their little UGG boots in anger ,and shed even more tears onto their respective pillows 

one of the best post i've read since joining the forum.
Downing and not Young was voted Villa player of the year by fans for 2 years running before he joined us.
Adam single handedly almost kept Blackpool in the league.
Carroll was one of the mostly highly rated youngster in England when he was with barcodes and they rejected a 25m bid from spurs.
yes, Kenny stepped up n saved us from relegation. and we should give him more time to adjust to the modern game, his record as a player, manager and loyal servant to the club speaks for itself.

[parchpea]

End of the day our owners will decide the fate of Dalgish, not the supporters or people
posting opinions on a forum.

John Henry has investors to please to save his own neck and if the natives are restless
and want Dagger out then he will go end of story.

Fenway saved the day but are here to make money not waste it and Dalglish has wasted
a lot of money this year.

They also know that the big coin is made in that Champs League and it is that they wanted and
trusted Dalglish with the funds and management skill to deliver.

I am covering old ground, but whilst the cups are enjoyable the cold hard facts of modern
football and being owned is that these boys want to be where the money is and thats why they
bought in. Top 4 is the jackpot.

At this point Daggers looking over the edge make no mistake about it.

[heimdall]

BTW I think Newcastle will get 4th spot ahead of Spurs, I certainly hope so just to p1ss you guys off.

Are you running out friends and decided to make a few more by re-joining this forum ? A better idea might be to sign up to a Barcodes forum.

Patience with you Hiemdall is getting pretty thin.

It would be a fair point if we were challenging for 4th and yes given the choice I prefer Newcastle to Spurs, why is that a problem, am I not allowed to appreciate and favour any other teams? I would have thoguht it's fairly fecking obvious which team I support.

Incidentally what forum rules am I pushing. I only ask becuase you and other mods seem to very conveniently absolve certain posters, who tow the party line of Kenny being the supreme being who can do no wrong ever ever ever, from rude and abusive language. 

Incidentally I have plenty of friends, so no need for concern there, thanks for your concern though, I'm genuinly touched.