LFC2007 wrote:aCe' wrote:LFC2007 wrote:It's unlikely sure, but can you not grasp the concept of Market Price and Market Value?
Chelsea are part of the market, FFS it is such a basic concept.
A player is worth as much as clubs are willing to pay for them, Feckin helllllll!!!!!!!
Just for you Ill post this again:
""Market price is an economic concept with commonplace familiarity; it is the price that a good or service is offered at, or will fetch, in the marketplace"
okay... dont know how to explain this in a simple so even you woud uderstand but..ill try..u mis1st... ur quote is correct but u misinterpret it because obviously u know so little about economics !
market demand is a function of market price...u dentote the demand by D(p) with p being the price based on which the demand in the market applies...
market price depends on 2 things...supply and demand... in our case supply is the quantity 1 which is th player put for sale.. assume no price is set by supplier !
individual demand is the demand of a club interested in the service...so the supply demand curve is not but a single point in the plane ..THAT is the offer made by the club to get the player....a single demand/supply curve with a single equilibrium point....
market demand is the aggregation of indivudual demands to total..which is simply the addition of the demand curves (in our case points) by adding horizontally...market supply is 1 which is the single player put in the market by the club....
AGAIN....price depends on supply and demand...for every price u have a quantinty of interested buys..in our case.. we only have different prices... so to get the market price... the only way we can get an assumption of the willingness to pay (the demand) is to get the average of the prices in the curve...
what u pointed out works if you had a changing supply and demand curve...but for our case the supply is costant so you cant assume that a single demand is the market demand..and thus the market price is a function of that single demand...
about your other post...
1) its all speculation and assumptions when it comes to transfer rumours...if people werent to give their opinions based on what they hear in the media or whatever... no one would have posted sht in this thread...
2) its a matter of time... Bayern's chairman came out and said that an agreement is not far...and to me...thats assurance that hes moving to bayern...17mill is the reported bid and again...speculation ...
3) again...media...rumours suggest he'll only be allowed to leave if the offer is good enough... from what iv heard.. that amount could be 15-20 million... if less then good for us....
4) thats my opinion ... urs is different but saying that malouda has attributes that will make him a success in the prem ? what about reyes ? iv seen both play and from what iv seen reyes is a far more talented player than malouda will ever be... thing is... malouda is consistent... but he plays in the french league so u never know if he'll be as good in england.... to me... a talent is a talent wherever it may be... reyes has what it takes to be a success in the prem....and i dont think he was a flop at arsenal either.... but again... my opinion...urs is different..we'll agree to disagree on that !
u keep bringing championship manager up... obviously ur obsessed with it... havnt played it in years and dont think ill be playing it anytime soon either... grow up and try to come up with decent arguments instead of your witty remarks !
Please pull yourself from your own ar.se I'm having trouble hearing you.
I know little about economics, really! I studied economics, politics and Law at College you trumpet basher.
You can't even articulate your point about Essien without ranting on about economic theory, even then it is the most incoherent description of market demand possible. Nor is it applied correctly to the case in question, it is straight out of a text book.
Here's where your point falls down like a sack of sh!t:
"and thus the market price is a function of that single demand"
Single demand?
So nobody BUT Chelsea were interested in Essien?
Even when it was strongly reported that Man Utd were interested, as were plenty of other big clubs. The demand was there, Chelsea had the money to usurp these other clubs and that is why the Market Price of Essien was so high.
This is the reality of the situation:
The de facto value of any player is whatever a club is willing to pay for his services, by definition - that is their market value.
The subjective opinion of anyone as to whether that value is a true reflection of that player's ability is an entirely different issue.
A player is worth (IN MONETARY TERMS) whatever a club is willing to pay for their services.
You are the ARCH-speculator on this forum, who knows that Ribery has signed for Bayern even though he is still contracted to Marseille and no deal has been announced. And you also know that he went for 17m.
You know that X player will cost X amount - you're sure of it -that Silva would cost X million, and Malouda isn't worth it because he would surely cost more than X million.
You consider Reyes a "better player" to Malouda, Schevchenko could be deemed to be a better player than Kuyt but Kuyt's had a bigger impact in England. That is your perspective on things, a "better player" = suited to the role.
Was Reyes suited to the Premiership?
Did he show all that flair he was rumoured to have in an Arsenal side that is one of the most fluid and attacking teams in Europe?
Do you think Wenger would have let him go to Madrid had he been so successful at Arsenal, did you even go to games in England and see Reyes play?
Have you ever even been to Anfield and seen the team play or do you sit at home by your TV with a fat cigar and pontificate about who we should sign?
Tell me aCe
haha... i studied economics so the little you know you can shove right up yours !
im nt going to quote all the wrong
u said in that post because i think i made myself clear in my post.. and the part where my argument "falls down like a sack of sht " read it again... and try not to ignore what came before it... dckhead !nobody but chelsea were interested ?! oo... lets apply ur brilliant strategy of rfuting my arguments here u stoopid fuk !
ooo.....how do you know only chelsea were interested ? are you his agent ?!
you argue like a fcking 5 year old !
i said in the previous post that all my OPINIONS were based on what was rumoured in the media..SPECULATION !
if you read the other posts in the thread ull find that 80% of th people in this thread give their opinion based on the rumoured transfer fee...not just the abilities of the player... which im sure only few here have seen much of...obviously u havent yet still seem to believe that hed make a better signing than reyes...
take it easy kiddo... hard world out there !
