s@int wrote:god_bless_john_houlding wrote:dawson...why sell aurelio? because he's useless IMO. I can't see why people rave about him so highly. Even when he's been fit, people run rings around him.
saint...barry would join Liverpool even if he was told to play in goal. There's more prestige, more money (probably) and more coverage for the lad and the only reason I want Barry at left back, is because our central midfielders as a collective unit are the best in the premiership whereas our left back position is rather average at best. Teams around us have better left backs than ourselves...Evra, Cole, Clichy, Lescott, Barry (if played there) Warnock, Garrido (man city) McCartney (west ham) I'd say only Portsmouth out of the top 10 don't have a left back I'd take ahead of Riise/Aurelio. Herman Hriedasson, isn't for me a great left back, he's a good centre half though.
The thing is though John, if it was a left back we were after, we could get a better left back than Barry for a lot less money. Bridge would only cost about £5/6 million. If you are paying £10million we could get a topclass Leftback rather than someone who "can play there".
Precisely. And the biggest concern I have, other than we don't need Barry we need other players in other positions, is now Rafa has made it clear he wants him we'll be held to ransom. Houllier did this a bit, made it clear he wanted someone (think it was Cisse) and we got rogered.
MON came out and said it was an offer involving a "mish mash" of players, I assume by that he means something like Barry for £3m + Riise, Hobbs, Anderson etc. He should keep it simple, say £4m + Carson, making it too complicated will put the seller off or you'll end up at loggerheads over which players are going in exchange as well as the make-up fee. It's likely to be one big name player and 2 or 3 younger non-first team players. We know villa want Carson, all that would then remain is to agree how much extra Barry would cost.
But I'd rather not shop at villa, let's make a speculative bid of way under £10m with or without players going both ways by all means, but let's not get entangled in a long, drawn out bid. Personally I think Barry will be looking at next season and holding off signing a new contract, if villa don't make leaps and bounds improvements then he'll go into the last year of his contract. We might as well wait and see if he signs a new contract, the figures being mentioned are way too high for someone not far off being able to BUY OUT his contract.
If £10m+ is the fee we might as well pay it when he signs a new contract as when he's a year from being able to buy his contract out. I can't get even remotely close to positive about this move simply because he's not worth the money mentioned, we don't need him and I feel this is getting to be like a bid for a truly great player over a not so great player ie like bidding £30m for Robbie Keane
ingniel to call out LFC for "going public" about the transfer. I don't remember reading any quotes from Rafa about "yea we put in a cheeky bid for Barry and have offered some kind of player plus cash deal, he is a player of good quality, no?" We can now accuse Oniel of causing unrest at the club wondering who has been offered in the deal
