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by **7_Kewell** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:38 pm

Scottbot wrote:
bavlondon wrote:How long is someone normally out for with ligament damage? Worst case what is he looking at.... 3 months?

Depends on the tear, they are v.slow to repair. could even be the whole season if it's a bad one.

correct.

We wont know the deal until thursday when they discover just how bad it is. If it's a slight tear then he'll be out 2-3 months. If its a bad one then....well lets hope things don't come to that.

by **woof woof !** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:45 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
roberto green wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Scottbot wrote:They're saying he has torn his medial ligament which means he's gonna be out for ages

Gonna have to bring someone in during the window which means more problematic positons such as upfront are gonna get looked over.

Gerrard moved to right back
Aurelio, Lucas and Aqua in mid
Kuyt and benny on the wings
Torres up front
Simples

Yeah your joking right?

Gerrard can play anywhere cant he?
We dont need another rb

WUM ALERT

by **Sir Roger** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:56 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
roberto green wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Scottbot wrote:They're saying he has torn his medial ligament which means he's gonna be out for ages

Gonna have to bring someone in during the window which means more problematic positons such as upfront are gonna get looked over.

Gerrard moved to right back
Aurelio, Lucas and Aqua in mid
Kuyt and benny on the wings
Torres up front
Simples

Yeah your joking right?

Gerrard can play anywhere cant he?
We dont need another rb

WUM ALERT

Maybe

But drastic times call for drastic solutions...

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:58 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
roberto green wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
Scottbot wrote:They're saying he has torn his medial ligament which means he's gonna be out for ages

Gonna have to bring someone in during the window which means more problematic positons such as upfront are gonna get looked over.

Gerrard moved to right back
Aurelio, Lucas and Aqua in mid
Kuyt and benny on the wings
Torres up front
Simples

Yeah your joking right?

Gerrard can play anywhere cant he?
We dont need another rb

WUM ALERT

Maybe

But drastic times call for drastic solutions...

you mean you are going try and find a life? :laugh:

by **woof woof !** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:01 pm

reminder

actively discouraged.

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:12 pm

woof woof ! wrote:reminder

actively discouraged.

by **tubby** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:46 pm

Anyone know if Kelly is fit now? He looked ok at RB against Lyon. I know he is a CB but id put him at RB for the time being and keep Carra in the middle.

by **Reg** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:12 pm

Liverpool’s progress threatened by injury setback for Glen JohnsonJames Ducker, Nick Szczepanik

Liverpool’s hopes of qualifying for the Champions League suffered another blow last night when Glen Johnson was ruled out for at least a month with a tear to the medial ligament in his right knee.

Johnson suffered the injury during the Barclays Premier League victory away to Aston Villa on Tuesday evening. There were initial fears that the England right back could miss the rest of the season and the World Cup finals in South Africa, but a scan yesterday revealed that the damage was not as bad as suspected.

The player will see a specialist today, when Liverpool say that they “should be able to more accurately determine the length of his rehabilitation period”.

If Johnson is out for longer than a month, he could miss the Merseyside derby against Everton at Anfield on February 6 and the Barclays Premier League match away to Arsenal four days later.

Although questions remain over his defensive ability, Johnson has been one of Liverpool’s main attacking outlets this season and his absence could not have been more poorly timed after Rafael Benítez’s team moved to within four points of fourth place with their win at Villa.

It remains to be seen if Johnson’s injury will force Benítez into the transfer market for a right back, although with any money he can raise from player sales earmarked for a new striker, the manager may have to get by with what he has in reserve.

While Liverpool will feel that they have boosted their chances of claiming a top-four spot considerably by beating Villa, recent history suggests that they will still miss out, and that the battle for fourth place is between Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City and Villa.

The bad news for Liverpool, who will see out 2009 in seventh place, is that no team outside the top six on New Year’s Eve have made it into the top four on the final day since the 2000-01 season. On that occasion, Leeds United made an impressive jump from fourteenth to fourth, winning 13 of their final 19 league matches and also reaching the semi-finals of the Champions League.

Since then, the team who have finished fourth have either been in the same league position on December 31 the previous year or no lower than sixth. Of the contending teams, Spurs, who are fourth, should be looking ahead with most optimism. In six of the past eight seasons the team who began the year in fourth place have either stayed there or improved their final position.

However, Jamie Carragher was not letting the facts get in the way of a good story after Liverpool’s victory, secured with an injury-time goal by Fernando Torres after some bizarre defending by Villa. “It is a big result,” Carragher said. “Obviously that brings us a lot closer to Aston Villa. If they had beaten us, it would have been a big points difference, so the one game can make a difference.

“We realise what would have happened if we had lost. People would have said we were miles away and that was it for the top four, so we have given ourselves a fighting chance.

“Over the last few years, Villa have been one of those teams around the top six alongside Everton. But Manchester City have come on and Tottenham have done really well, and I think they are all looking at us as the team whose place they can take.”

Villa were fourth before successive defeats by Arsenal and Liverpool. However, Luke Young believes the increased competition for Champions League places can lessen their pain.

“Teams are taking points off each other left, right and centre,” Young said. “It’s going to go down to the end for this final Champions League spot and we hope to be in among them.”

by **bigmick** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:43 pm

If ever there was a good time for a player to get injured (and there isn't to be honest) this probably came at one for Johnson. I really rate the lad and have for some time, I was glad we paid all that money for him, but the last few weeks I think his form has dropped off alarmingly. Defensively he's never been great but looks increasingly jittery, while even going forward he seems to have lost some of his zip. The word is he was injured before, well he is properly now. Hopefully we can get him properly fit and get his head right. If and when we do, he is one of the handful of players we have who is a World beater and a game breaker. Hurry back soon fella.

by **tubby** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:46 pm

If it's bad though Mick then the next time he plays will probably be in an England shirt.

by **bigmick** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:49 pm

bavlondon wrote:If it's bad though Mick then the next time he plays will probably be in an England shirt.

Yes I don't know how long he's supposed to be out but we could obviously do without it being three months or something. Three weeks would be bareable.

by **NANNY RED** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:22 am

bavlondon wrote:Anyone know if Kelly is fit now? He looked ok at RB against Lyon. I know he is a CB but id put him at RB for the time being and keep Carra in the middle.

According to the physio room Bav he will be ok from Sunday

I like this kid an all

by **Sir Roger** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:43 am

7_Kewell wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:reminder

actively discouraged.

Life is for the living and I am very much alive in the life I have thank you
:;):

by **Waldo** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:28 pm

Johnson brought about the injury himself with one of his many misplaced passes. Had he cleared his lines like he should have and not tried another pass then he wouldn't have had to tackle Agbonlahor and he would not have been injured!!!

This is a big blow for us as, although he was pants vs Villa, he has been a v.good outlet for us going forward.

I would agree wholeheartedly that (when he gets back from injury - hopefully soon - get well soon Glen) Johnson could play in the role that Kuyt is at the moment. Johnson has less guile than Kuyt and may not be an option to hold the ball up as much but he has more pace than Kuyt, is more direct and would deliver more crosses and chances for our MF and strikers.

by **shawnk** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:56 pm

Waldo wrote:Johnson brought about the injury himself with one of his many misplaced passes. Had he cleared his lines like he should have and not tried another pass then he wouldn't have had to tackle Agbonlahor and he would not have been injured!!!

This is a big blow for us as, although he was pants vs Villa, he has been a v.good outlet for us going forward.

I would agree wholeheartedly that (when he gets back from injury - hopefully soon - get well soon Glen) Johnson could play in the role that Kuyt is at the moment. Johnson has less guile than Kuyt and may not be an option to hold the ball up as much but he has more pace than Kuyt, is more direct and would deliver more crosses and chances for our MF and strikers.

Or a talented player like Pacheco to replace Kuyt for me. He needs more chances.

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