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Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:who do people think would be the ideal partner for N'gog (assuming Torres is hurt)?

Babel? Kuyt? Gerrard? Yossi? Pacheco?

To me, it doesn't seem like Gerrard plays well with N'gog. If I was playing N'gog up front I would also drop Gerrard back and play either Yossi or Pacheco behind N'gog.

Well I wonder why Stevie doesn't play well with Wash, could it be that Wash is an extremely average striker. If he is the second best striker we have at the club then it is a very sorry state of affairs. I'd like to see someone else given a go and as long as Torres is out I think we need to play 4-4-2 with Stevie alongside Mascha.

Ngog is getting a go and is scoring a goal every other game - 4 goals in 8 games played so far this season - what more do you want from a young lad - oh and last few havent been tap ins as well so i see that line from you has stopped.

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:who do people think would be the ideal partner for N'gog (assuming Torres is hurt)?

Babel? Kuyt? Gerrard? Yossi? Pacheco?

To me, it doesn't seem like Gerrard plays well with N'gog. If I was playing N'gog up front I would also drop Gerrard back and play either Yossi or Pacheco behind N'gog.

Well I wonder why Stevie doesn't play well with Wash, could it be that Wash is an extremely average striker. If he is the second best striker we have at the club then it is a very sorry state of affairs. I'd like to see someone else given a go and as long as Torres is out I think we need to play 4-4-2 with Stevie alongside Mascha.

Ngog is getting a go and is scoring a goal every other game - 4 goals in 8 games played so far this season - what more do you want from a young lad - oh and last few havent been tap ins as well so i see that line from you has stopped.

Well they haven't exactly been memorable goals either have they, for me it's not about he goals it's about the movement, the game intelligence, the promise for the future and this is where Lucas and Wash disappoint me, they just aren't good enough for a club with ambitions and I don't think they ever will be.

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:who do people think would be the ideal partner for N'gog (assuming Torres is hurt)?

Babel? Kuyt? Gerrard? Yossi? Pacheco?

To me, it doesn't seem like Gerrard plays well with N'gog. If I was playing N'gog up front I would also drop Gerrard back and play either Yossi or Pacheco behind N'gog.

Well I wonder why Stevie doesn't play well with Wash, could it be that Wash is an extremely average striker. If he is the second best striker we have at the club then it is a very sorry state of affairs. I'd like to see someone else given a go and as long as Torres is out I think we need to play 4-4-2 with Stevie alongside Mascha.

Ngog is getting a go and is scoring a goal every other game - 4 goals in 8 games played so far this season - what more do you want from a young lad - oh and last few havent been tap ins as well so i see that line from you has stopped.

Well they haven't exactly been memorable goals either have they, for me it's not about he goals it's about the movement, the game intelligence, the promise for the future and this is where Lucas and Wash disappoint me, they just aren't good enough for a club with ambitions and I don't think they ever will be.

memorable goals ? WTF does that mean ? so becuase he isnt smashing them in from 30 yards or beating players left right and centre that makes him poor ?? Do you even watch us play - the one the thing Ngog does have is very good movement off the ball

The guy has a great strike rate at the moment and as a striker that is exactly what you need .

1 every two games - no one can deny that strike rate .

Well we'll have to agree to disagree, you must be seeing something in him which I just can't see, to me he is distinctly average, he might be ok in a 4-4-2 but we don't know do we because we have a manager who is incapable of change and adaptation, it's a miracle that Rafa's ancestors managed to evolve to this point in time. 

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:who do people think would be the ideal partner for N'gog (assuming Torres is hurt)?

Babel? Kuyt? Gerrard? Yossi? Pacheco?

To me, it doesn't seem like Gerrard plays well with N'gog. If I was playing N'gog up front I would also drop Gerrard back and play either Yossi or Pacheco behind N'gog.

Well I wonder why Stevie doesn't play well with Wash, could it be that Wash is an extremely average striker. If he is the second best striker we have at the club then it is a very sorry state of affairs. I'd like to see someone else given a go and as long as Torres is out I think we need to play 4-4-2 with Stevie alongside Mascha.

Ngog is getting a go and is scoring a goal every other game - 4 goals in 8 games played so far this season - what more do you want from a young lad - oh and last few havent been tap ins as well so i see that line from you has stopped.

Well they haven't exactly been memorable goals either have they, for me it's not about he goals it's about the movement, the game intelligence, the promise for the future and this is where Lucas and Wash disappoint me, they just aren't good enough for a club with ambitions and I don't think they ever will be.

memorable goals ? WTF does that mean ? so becuase he isnt smashing them in from 30 yards or beating players left right and centre that makes him poor ?? Do you even watch us play - the one the thing Ngog does have is very good movement off the ball

The guy has a great strike rate at the moment and as a striker that is exactly what you need .

1 every two games - no one can deny that strike rate .

Well we'll have to agree to disagree, you must be seeing something in him which I just can't see, to me he is distinctly average, he might be ok in a 4-4-2 but we don't know do we because we have a manager who is incapable of change and adaptation, it's a miracle that Rafa's ancestors managed to evolve to this point in time. 

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:who do people think would be the ideal partner for N'gog (assuming Torres is hurt)?

Babel? Kuyt? Gerrard? Yossi? Pacheco?

To me, it doesn't seem like Gerrard plays well with N'gog. If I was playing N'gog up front I would also drop Gerrard back and play either Yossi or Pacheco behind N'gog.

Well I wonder why Stevie doesn't play well with Wash, could it be that Wash is an extremely average striker. If he is the second best striker we have at the club then it is a very sorry state of affairs. I'd like to see someone else given a go and as long as Torres is out I think we need to play 4-4-2 with Stevie alongside Mascha.

Ngog is getting a go and is scoring a goal every other game - 4 goals in 8 games played so far this season - what more do you want from a young lad - oh and last few havent been tap ins as well so i see that line from you has stopped.

Well they haven't exactly been memorable goals either have they, for me it's not about he goals it's about the movement, the game intelligence, the promise for the future and this is where Lucas and Wash disappoint me, they just aren't good enough for a club with ambitions and I don't think they ever will be.

memorable goals ? WTF does that mean ? so becuase he isnt smashing them in from 30 yards or beating players left right and centre that makes him poor ?? Do you even watch us play - the one the thing Ngog does have is very good movement off the ball

The guy has a great strike rate at the moment and as a striker that is exactly what you need .

1 every two games - no one can deny that strike rate .

Well we'll have to agree to disagree, you must be seeing something in him which I just can't see, to me he is distinctly average, he might be ok in a 4-4-2 but we don't know do we because we have a manager who is incapable of change and adaptation, it's a miracle that Rafa's ancestors managed to evolve to this point in time. 

So pretty much every thread is now getting to be slagging off about Rafa and now its personal insults towards are manager as well as players -

The level of support from some sections is now pretty disgusting IMO - i dont know if its a new breed or the invention of the internet but it would have many a great person turning in their grave to hear some of the stuff being said about Liverpool,Liverpool Manager and Liverpool Players .

oh shut up you sanctimonious tw1t. how dare you speak for the dead as if you have the first fecking clue what they would think of the current situation, maybe they would have been as off as all us anti's instead of putting on the rose tinted specs, sticking fingers in your ears and going lalala. 

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

heimdall wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:who do people think would be the ideal partner for N'gog (assuming Torres is hurt)?

Babel? Kuyt? Gerrard? Yossi? Pacheco?

To me, it doesn't seem like Gerrard plays well with N'gog. If I was playing N'gog up front I would also drop Gerrard back and play either Yossi or Pacheco behind N'gog.

Well I wonder why Stevie doesn't play well with Wash, could it be that Wash is an extremely average striker. If he is the second best striker we have at the club then it is a very sorry state of affairs. I'd like to see someone else given a go and as long as Torres is out I think we need to play 4-4-2 with Stevie alongside Mascha.

Ngog is getting a go and is scoring a goal every other game - 4 goals in 8 games played so far this season - what more do you want from a young lad - oh and last few havent been tap ins as well so i see that line from you has stopped.

Well they haven't exactly been memorable goals either have they, for me it's not about he goals it's about the movement, the game intelligence, the promise for the future and this is where Lucas and Wash disappoint me, they just aren't good enough for a club with ambitions and I don't think they ever will be.

memorable goals ? WTF does that mean ? so becuase he isnt smashing them in from 30 yards or beating players left right and centre that makes him poor ?? Do you even watch us play - the one the thing Ngog does have is very good movement off the ball

The guy has a great strike rate at the moment and as a striker that is exactly what you need .

1 every two games - no one can deny that strike rate .

Well we'll have to agree to disagree, you must be seeing something in him which I just can't see, to me he is distinctly average, he might be ok in a 4-4-2 but we don't know do we because we have a manager who is incapable of change and adaptation, it's a miracle that Rafa's ancestors managed to evolve to this point in time. 

So pretty much every thread is now getting to be slagging off about Rafa and now its personal insults towards are manager as well as players -

The level of support from some sections is now pretty disgusting IMO - i dont know if its a new breed or the invention of the internet but it would have many a great person turning in their grave to hear some of the stuff being said about Liverpool,Liverpool Manager and Liverpool Players .

oh shut up you sanctimonious tw1t. how dare you speak for the dead as if you have the first fecking clue what they would think of the current situation, maybe they would have been as off as all us anti's instead of putting on the rose tinted specs, sticking fingers in your ears and going lalala. 

Ben Patrick wrote:I dont want to get involved in other peoples spats but i will say one thing.
The way results have gone this season, the level of criticism is imo quite mild, and the fact that Rafa has so much support from so many fans is to me startling.

Yes he has had rotten luck with injuries.

But this season has been unacceptable so far, there's no getting away from that i dont think.

Benny The Noon wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:I dont want to get involved in other peoples spats but i will say one thing.
The way results have gone this season, the level of criticism is imo quite mild, and the fact that Rafa has so much support from so many fans is to me startling.

Yes he has had rotten luck with injuries.

But this season has been unacceptable so far, there's no getting away from that i dont think.

Oh there is no doubt he deserves critisim - they all do as its not good enough at the moment mate and they need to step but there is a difference between constructive vaild critism and outright insults and slagging off - people like Big Micheal and saint and a few others critisize with constructive valid arguments with basis and backing - people like heimdall just jump on their coatails and just insult people within the club - nothing constructive at all .

but he has done that for years, just do what everyone else does....










ignore him 

Ben Patrick wrote:but he has done that for years, just do what everyone else does....










ignore him 

Oh i have tried but the last thing i hate seeing is people being damn right disrespectful towards our players and manager .

Benny The Noon wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:but he has done that for years, just do what everyone else does....










ignore him 

Oh i have tried but the last thing i hate seeing is people being damn right disrespectful towards our players and manager .