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Postby made in UK » Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:57 pm

Dirty Barry wrote:
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Dirty Barry wrote:You cannot just judge him on this season, alright we've had a poor start but his overall record is still pretty good, there are only 4 trophies a season to play for.

Would people really consider this season a failure if we won the FA Cup and finished 4th?

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Why?

Because it makes you sound fickle and that's for supporters of other clubs.

I never thought we would win the league this season but I must admit we have been poorer than I thought but Rafa has to be given to the end of the season I don't think we would gain anything by sacking him.

I can think of plenty managers I wouldn't want if he did go but the list to replace him is pretty short.

I'm more concerned about our owner long term.

I personally agree about waiting until the end of the season.

Fickle or not people will naturally judge him on current form. Played 7 lost 6. Some supporters will also bear in mind that millions have been wasted over the previous five years on duds. Leaving us where we are today. Some may even feel that it has taken Rafa a very long time to adapt to the English league and learn the hard way about his own methodologies. They also may feel that Rafa's five year plan has well and truly expired.

I can see where some of our supporters are coming from.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:03 pm

made in UK wrote:
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made in UK wrote:
Dirty Barry wrote:You cannot just judge him on this season, alright we've had a poor start but his overall record is still pretty good, there are only 4 trophies a season to play for.

Would people really consider this season a failure if we won the FA Cup and finished 4th?

:Oo:

Why?

Because it makes you sound fickle and that's for supporters of other clubs.

I never thought we would win the league this season but I must admit we have been poorer than I thought but Rafa has to be given to the end of the season I don't think we would gain anything by sacking him.

I can think of plenty managers I wouldn't want if he did go but the list to replace him is pretty short.

I'm more concerned about our owner long term.

I personally agree about waiting until the end of the season.

Fickle or not people will naturally judge him on current form. Played 7 lost 6. Some supporters will also bear in mind that millions have been wasted over the previous five years on duds. Leaving us where we are today. Some may even feel that it has taken Rafa a very long time to adapt to the English league and learn the hard way about his own methodologies. They also may feel that Rafa's five year plan has well and truly expired.

I can see where some of our supporters are coming from.

so do i, but i still think we should stick with him until the summer.
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Postby Reg » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:10 pm

It seems to me the fans are weaker than the manager.

First sign of disappointment and look how they bleat.

We should create a separate forum for mentally weak people so they can go there and cry together and have group hugs.

Fcuking wooftas, its pathetic.  :angry:
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Postby Sir Roger » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:11 pm

He will not be sacked
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Postby todandcopper » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:13 pm

4th and an fa cup win? who are you kidding we are in freefall!
I would be happy right now with 4th and the fa cup but that is very, very optimistic the way things are heading right now.
At the beggining of the season we were hotly tipped by many pundits to go all the way, it is only just November and we are struggling to make it into next years CL! that is not progress by anyones standards.
Any manager who believes players like Voronin and Babel are worthy of the shirt is dilusional at best! we could have rescued Michael Owen from the wilderness but Rafa would rather cut off his nose and spite his face!
I will go as far as to say that if it wasn't for Stevie G we wouldn't have won practically anything under the man. 
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Postby todandcopper » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:15 pm

Reg wrote:It seems to me the fans are weaker than the manager.

First sign of disappointment and look how they bleat.

We should create a separate forum who mentally weak people so they can go there and cry together and have group hugs.

Fcuking wooftas, its pathetic.  :angry:

First sign of dissapointment? he has been raising more questions than answers for years, it's not weak it's called being brave and decisive. get rid now.
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Postby Reg » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:24 pm

Noted with thanks Whiskynose but if men divorced their wives after a few disappointments then there wouldnt be many marriages still going would there?

No business is all sunny days, there are times when no matter what you do it doesnt work out and it looks like we're going thru one of those phases now.

We cant second guess whats going pn bhind cloed doors but I'm sure its never what we think it is.

Anyway, its 30 degrees here so its sunbloc on and time to take the kids to the park. Enjoy.
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Postby The_Rock » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:29 pm

s@int wrote:But Benitez, who takes Liverpool into a week that could decide their Champions League fate after Saturday's shock 3-1 defeat at Fulham, said: “I don’t agree when people say that you have to win trophies.“I always say you have to be there, you have to be close, you have to create a group of players who can fight for trophies. 

Excuses......excuses.........excuses ...........Benitez is just looking for f@ckin excuses.  :no

Do you ppl understand what he is saying ? How the f@ck can the hippies still defend benitez.....

LFC is one of the biggest clubs in the world...do you think someone with this type of mentality (coming close) is good enough to MANAGE this club ? Yeah...and i am sure real madrid will be up his alley with that kind of thinking... :p

He should go at the end of this season....(If purslow can somehow get mourinho...then hey...... benitez can go anytime)
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Postby todandcopper » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:32 pm

Mourinho!!! are you taking the :censored: :censored:. I wouldn't let that :censored: run a bath.
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Postby tel » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:40 pm

No need to sack him. Just let madrid know he is available.
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Postby Sir Roger » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:43 pm

todandcopper wrote:4th and an fa cup win? who are you kidding we are in freefall!
I would be happy right now with 4th and the fa cup but that is very, very optimistic the way things are heading right now.
At the beggining of the season we were hotly tipped by many pundits to go all the way, it is only just November and we are struggling to make it into next years CL! that is not progress by anyones standards.
Any manager who believes players like Voronin and Babel are worthy of the shirt is dilusional at best! we could have rescued Michael Owen from the wilderness but Rafa would rather cut off his nose and spite his face!
I will go as far as to say that if it wasn't for Stevie G we wouldn't have won practically anything under the man. 
You can argue about the timing but if you want to put something right then the time IS [U] now.

We might as well have been playing with seven men for all that voronin and babel bring
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:44 pm

Sir Roger wrote:He will not be sacked

I agree mate but once you start to get tools turning at the match im scared he will walk,

I was talking to a lad last night in the pub after the game an there was another lad from somewhere i dont know, anyway he said off the cuff as he passed us thats it Rafa has to go, ive spent 49 pound on a ticket god knows how much on food an drink me first away game an i get treated to this Rubbish,To that the lad who i was talking to said, COME HERE LAD , Tell me hand of :censored: heart you want rid but tell me who the fu.ck are you gonna relace him with. Genuine answer mate. Who the feck is gonna come here with all this sh.ite going on. Answer me mate, The lad just looked an walked away, YEH SEE GIRL HE SAID you ask all these a genuine hand on heart question an they havnt got an answer , Because theres not one fecking manager out there at the mo who would put up with all this fecking carry on, People keep mentioning Mourinhio that t,wat wouldnt put up with this . hed have jacked it in long ago. an so would have a lot of other managers , Rafa is one of thee best top 5 managers in the world 3 of the others already work in the prem so were does that leave us, There is no quick fix answer ,

THAT WAS FROM A LAD I WAS TALKIN TO LAST NIGHT AN HES RIGHT,
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:51 pm

The_Rock wrote:
s@int wrote:But Benitez, who takes Liverpool into a week that could decide their Champions League fate after Saturday's shock 3-1 defeat at Fulham, said: “I don’t agree when people say that you have to win trophies.“I always say you have to be there, you have to be close, you have to create a group of players who can fight for trophies. 

Excuses......excuses.........excuses ...........Benitez is just looking for f@ckin excuses.  :no

Do you ppl understand what he is saying ? How the f@ck can the hippies still defend benitez.....

LFC is one of the biggest clubs in the world...do you think someone with this type of mentality (coming close) is good enough to MANAGE this club ? Yeah...and i am sure real madrid will be up his alley with that kind of thinking... :p

He should go at the end of this season....(If purslow can somehow get mourinho...then hey...... benitez can go anytime)

Here you, you can f,uck right off calling people hippies who the feck are you like, to be making comments about fans who support the manager, Its fecking tools like you we need to be rid of, Im no fecking hippy mate i can assure you of that , you are one cheeky g.et hippy get a fecking grip,
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Postby Sir Roger » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:56 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:He will not be sacked

I agree mate but once you start to get tools turning at the match im scared he will walk,

I was talking to a lad last night in the pub after the game an there was another lad from somewhere i dont know, anyway he said off the cuff as he passed us thats it Rafa has to go, ive spent 49 pound on a ticket god knows how much on food an drink me first away game an i get treated to this Rubbish,To that the lad who i was talking to said, COME HERE LAD , Tell me hand of :censored: heart you want rid but tell me who the fu.ck are you gonna relace him with. Genuine answer mate. Who the feck is gonna come here with all this sh.ite going on. Answer me mate, The lad just looked an walked away, YEH SEE GIRL HE SAID you ask all these a genuine hand on heart question an they havnt got an answer , Because theres not one fecking manager out there at the mo who would put up with all this fecking carry on, People keep mentioning Mourinhio that t,wat wouldnt put up with this . hed have jacked it in long ago. an so would have a lot of other managers , Rafa is one of thee best top 5 managers in the world 3 of the others already work in the prem so were does that leave us, There is no quick fix answer ,

THAT WAS FROM A LAD I WAS TALKIN TO LAST NIGHT AN HES RIGHT,

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Postby The_Rock » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:57 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
The_Rock wrote:
s@int wrote:But Benitez, who takes Liverpool into a week that could decide their Champions League fate after Saturday's shock 3-1 defeat at Fulham, said: “I don’t agree when people say that you have to win trophies.“I always say you have to be there, you have to be close, you have to create a group of players who can fight for trophies. 

Excuses......excuses.........excuses ...........Benitez is just looking for f@ckin excuses.  :no

Do you ppl understand what he is saying ? How the f@ck can the hippies still defend benitez.....

LFC is one of the biggest clubs in the world...do you think someone with this type of mentality (coming close) is good enough to MANAGE this club ? Yeah...and i am sure real madrid will be up his alley with that kind of thinking... :p

He should go at the end of this season....(If purslow can somehow get mourinho...then hey...... benitez can go anytime)

Here you, you can f,uck right off calling people hippies who the feck are you like, to be making comments about fans who support the manager, Its fecking tools like you we need to be rid of, Im no fecking hippy mate i can assure you of that , you are one cheeky g.et hippy get a fecking grip,

Well back at you......  :glare:

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