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NANNY RED wrote:go a head now you can all batter an slate me while im asleeo,but i fully expect a Lippi of ehy hes not good enough or hes  in the mornin

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Kharhaz wrote:I cant believe this topic has gone on as long as it has ! First of all no, sacking him would be stupid. We are in turmoil already, by releasing rafa wouldnt improve the situation one bit. Now, if the title was SLAP HIM, now yes, I can go for that. At the beginning of a game and rafa goes daft by selecting a lineup along the lines of playing Torres on the left wing then yes, Sammy Lee should slap him, no questions asked. Or if we take off players who have more influence in a game rather than someone who isnt then again, a little slap and alls good. But sacking no. Even if we lose to United on sunday, as frustrating as it could be (because we are going to win but sods law may give us a draw) sacking the manager at this time just makes matters so much more worse.

The best thing supporters can do now is just, well, just do their job. Support. Those going on sunday take a load of beach balls, the mancs are so obvious with their "humour" beat them to it but not just beat them totally take the p!ss ! Get one over on them before the match begins, when it does begin show the support this club is well known for and drown them out totally, give them nothing on and off the pitch. Throughout the game sing dance jump whatever, and if at the end we do end up with just a draw, well, we have done our part.

So you think we should sack him after we won Prem ? I don't get ya point ? We can't sack him if we doing bad we can't sack him if he doing good ? so basicly you would have saved your self alot of trouble and just said rafa is unsackable ? confused.

Normaly the course of action when a manager is doing a bad job is to let him go and when they doing well give them a new contract.

I have been very agressive last day with my posts I needed to vent I am bit sick not of rafa just the stupid mistakes he makes week in week out and its grinding on me.I really atm can't see a way forward for us.I have backed Rafa in the past to the hilt and given alot of love to the guy but there has always been this love hate feeling with rafa.One moment he is doing good then its like self destruct button is pressed and he does something daft.Its almost like he is trying to make things harder for him self.If he could be more agressive at home , play little more exspansive football and be a tad better in transfer market Plus little more man management I be alot more happy but I can't see it my self.

Dazzer wrote:So you think we should sack him after we won Prem ? I don't get ya point ? We can't sack him if we doing bad we can't sack him if he doing good ? so basicly you would have saved your self alot of trouble and just said rafa is unsackable ? confused.

Anfield's Finest wrote:

Lando_Griffin wrote:

Anfield's Finest wrote:

Kopite25 wrote:Yes we may not have spent anything net this summer.

Spending £40 million isnt nothing.

With that £40 million he could of brought in 5 good squad players and he didnt. Rafa brought in England's best right back - yes Glen has turned out to be one of the highlights this season but did we really need him? No.

Aquilani has come in and nobody has seen him either - yes he is injured but we needed a replacement for Xabi straight away not November.

And then we sign a useless Greek centre half - his first game at Bolton summed him up. Useless.

Who would YOU play at rightback, then?

You know full well that if he'd signed a lesser player purely to fill Alonso's position immediately you would slate him for that, too. "Oh, he should have waited and bought the right player, yadda, yadda, yadda..."

Rafa wanted Turner, you dick. The owners said "no".

Did he have to sell Arbeloa? No he didnt he sold him to bring Glen in.

Instead of swearing everytime you post put your very small footballing brain into gear and think things through.

*Now awaits f.....g loon etc.*

Incorrect. Arbeloa wanted to return to Spain as he hadn't settled on Merseyside and (I believe) his partner wouldn't live in England.

Perhaps YOU are the one who needs to "put your very small footballing brain into gear and think things through." 

Dazzer wrote:

Reg wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Especially annoying when you see good english players being bought for sub 10m prices - Turner, Cattermole, Owen, Warnock, etc

All of which would improve our current squad and surely would of chosen Liverpool over the teams they are at now.

If Rafa goes, I would like a manager that appreciates the quality of English players.

Turner cost 12Mil didn't he? Cattermole would have been a good buy for us. Would easily keep Lucas out of the squad imo.

Yeah but Rafael only had 1.5 million to spend so you have to point the finger at whoever provides the money - the owners.

Only cos he wasted 20 mil on a player who ain't even fit.Omg you talk such bullsh.it.

Kharhaz wrote:

Dazzer wrote:So you think we should sack him after we won Prem ? I don't get ya point ? We can't sack him if we doing bad we can't sack him if he doing good ? so basicly you would have saved your self alot of trouble and just said rafa is unsackable ? confused.

What I have said is, to sack him now would make things worse. Im as frustrated as everyone else and I mentioned this a bit ago in a different thread. But the one thing we have to do as supporters is simply stand by what we have. There are so many aspects at this club which can be blamed, but standing their and booing isnt helping, sitting here and bitching is also not helping. What we can do as supporters is do what we do best and support and lift the team as best we can. By all means express your frustration but do so after exhausting yourself of all support. I did so as have many others but come sunday, we will all be their praying for a victory over the mancs, praying for a performance. My point wasnt about sacking the manager, it was mainly about being stuck in a rut and as supporters, we can lift ourselves by doing our bit by the club.

Dazzer wrote:

bunglemark2 wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

stmichael wrote:No self respecting manager will want to come to a club with absolutely bugger all money or ambition anyway which is what the current owners have reduced our club to.

If you sack him they will be lining up mate I don't care who is running our club people want to manage it , Its in the top 3 greatest clubs in world so who the feck would turn it down ?

With no money to spend, and a pair of bickering idiots like Waldorf and Statler in charge....personally, I can't see a rush of applicants...Dunno where YOU think they're gonna come from...

Managers love challanges and if Rafa went tomorrow its the sort of challange that can turn a manager into a ledgend and thats what would bring them.Its win - win for any manager who would come in if they fail blame the owners if they win something they go down heroes of world football. 

I was thinking last night about martin yol what you think , I think he is little gem of a manager he built that spurs team and look how well its performing now.

You are one seriously deluded individual.

Lando_Griffin wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

Reg wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Especially annoying when you see good english players being bought for sub 10m prices - Turner, Cattermole, Owen, Warnock, etc

All of which would improve our current squad and surely would of chosen Liverpool over the teams they are at now.

If Rafa goes, I would like a manager that appreciates the quality of English players.

Turner cost 12Mil didn't he? Cattermole would have been a good buy for us. Would easily keep Lucas out of the squad imo.

Yeah but Rafael only had 1.5 million to spend so you have to point the finger at whoever provides the money - the owners.

Only cos he wasted 20 mil on a player who ain't even fit.Omg you talk such bullsh.it.

We have parted with £5m for Aquilani so far you dork.

Where's the other £27m from Alonso's sale?

You're boring me now - nothing but speculation and your own imagination.

Dazzer wrote:I know its ifs and buts but what if we lose next 2 games in league would you still hold the same view or is there a limit to you faith in him ?

Dazzer wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:time to lock this thread i think, everything has been said.

No not really don't try and get it shut others still talking about stuff.Just because you don't like whats being said don't mean it isn't a good thing to talk over.If you don't like it no one is forcing you to post or read in it.

Dazzer wrote:Ok bud you on ignor.That isn't on trying to make out I have no love for thios club is about as much of an insult as you can throw at me. 

Lando_Griffin wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

bunglemark2 wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

stmichael wrote:No self respecting manager will want to come to a club with absolutely bugger all money or ambition anyway which is what the current owners have reduced our club to.

If you sack him they will be lining up mate I don't care who is running our club people want to manage it , Its in the top 3 greatest clubs in world so who the feck would turn it down ?

With no money to spend, and a pair of bickering idiots like Waldorf and Statler in charge....personally, I can't see a rush of applicants...Dunno where YOU think they're gonna come from...

Managers love challanges and if Rafa went tomorrow its the sort of challange that can turn a manager into a ledgend and thats what would bring them.Its win - win for any manager who would come in if they fail blame the owners if they win something they go down heroes of world football. 

I was thinking last night about martin yol what you think , I think he is little gem of a manager he built that spurs team and look how well its performing now.

You are one seriously deluded individual.

Lando_Griffin wrote:

Dazzer wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:time to lock this thread i think, everything has been said.

No not really don't try and get it shut others still talking about stuff.Just because you don't like whats being said don't mean it isn't a good thing to talk over.If you don't like it no one is forcing you to post or read in it.

As far as I can see, so far you have suggested managers far, far inferior to Rafa as his replacement and when your sheer idiocy has been pointed out to you, you've stuck your fingers in your ears and gone "Lalalalalalalala".

There is no discussion. There is you and your like-minded fools whining like a group of schoolgirls forced into P.E. in their underwear and then there's the few on here who have a brain.

Get it?

Kharhaz wrote:

Dazzer wrote:I know its ifs and buts but what if we lose next 2 games in league would you still hold the same view or is there a limit to you faith in him ?

A limit to my faith? you really should read through the topics on here, I now get Bigmicks frustration, opinions are not limited to just one topic raised.