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Reg wrote:

access wrote:Newbie here …. Whilst you may think I am of the opinion that Rafa’s days are numbered and he isn’t fit for the job … I certainly am not.

I am a concerned Liverpool ‘’long time supporter’’ aged 52.

We know this could all change in a matter of days we beat the Manc’s we then go on a run of 7 or 8 games unbeaten and all the scare mongering will disappear and this particular forum will be a thing of the past…. but in the cold light of day I still cant get my head around what Rafa has ‘really’ achieved apart from the Champions League which was a hard act to follow.

In comparison to the silverware produced and titles won, I think it still suggests [sorry] a true lack of vision and/or talent what annoys me it is  interesting to see former Liverpool players Craig Bellamy and Robbie Keane (originally brought to the club by Benitez) both achieving significant success for other teams on the incline. They are both a brand of Liverpool players we or I loved – the typical game-breakers who regularly produce goals out of nothing.

OK …. Is it the players or the Manager???

And when you watch sky sports touting today the ins and outs of Liverpool and the ‘two man team’ discussed on various radio stations.

I then look at Lucas and then Babel ….  Alberto Aquilani a player that has huge amounts of talent but has spent months on the treatment table …

Then finally a number of weeks ago that George Gillett publicly criticized Benitez for Liverpool’s, at the time, third defeat of the season away to Chelsea.

Gillet insistend that Benitez in the last 5 years had already had the time and finances to produce a title winning side……..

Players or Manager?


I really dont know but this is all very painful

Welcome to the forum mate, there are more than a few lads who post who are around your slender age, dont worry.

Get stuck in and enjoy yourself and ignore the silly posts such as this nonsense to sack Rafa.

bavlondon wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Especially annoying when you see good english players being bought for sub 10m prices - Turner, Cattermole, Owen, Warnock, etc

All of which would improve our current squad and surely would of chosen Liverpool over the teams they are at now.

If Rafa goes, I would like a manager that appreciates the quality of English players.

Turner cost 12Mil didn't he? Cattermole would have been a good buy for us. Would easily keep Lucas out of the squad imo.

Lando_Griffin wrote:

Anfield's Finest wrote:

Kopite25 wrote:Yes we may not have spent anything net this summer.

Spending £40 million isnt nothing.

With that £40 million he could of brought in 5 good squad players and he didnt. Rafa brought in England's best right back - yes Glen has turned out to be one of the highlights this season but did we really need him? No.

Aquilani has come in and nobody has seen him either - yes he is injured but we needed a replacement for Xabi straight away not November.

And then we sign a useless Greek centre half - his first game at Bolton summed him up. Useless.

Who would YOU play at rightback, then?

You know full well that if he'd signed a lesser player purely to fill Alonso's position immediately you would slate him for that, too. "Oh, he should have waited and bought the right player, yadda, yadda, yadda..."

Rafa wanted Turner, you dick. The owners said "no".

Dirty Barry wrote:If we lose Sunday the season is all but over (Maybe we could win the FA Cup) so they will keep Rafa until the end of the season hoping they have secured more investment.

Of course if we win Sunday, win our remaining Champions League games we will be wondering what all the fuss was about.

The only way Rafa is going is if he decides to, the Amercans haven't go the balls or the money to,

you tick turd

how is the season all but over? what, 28 games left? all over?

bavlondon wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Especially annoying when you see good english players being bought for sub 10m prices - Turner, Cattermole, Owen, Warnock, etc

All of which would improve our current squad and surely would of chosen Liverpool over the teams they are at now.

If Rafa goes, I would like a manager that appreciates the quality of English players.

Turner cost 12Mil didn't he? Cattermole would have been a good buy for us. Would easily keep Lucas out of the squad imo.

Reg wrote:

access wrote:Newbie here …. Whilst you may think I am of the opinion that Rafa’s days are numbered and he isn’t fit for the job … I certainly am not.

I am a concerned Liverpool ‘’long time supporter’’ aged 52.

We know this could all change in a matter of days we beat the Manc’s we then go on a run of 7 or 8 games unbeaten and all the scare mongering will disappear and this particular forum will be a thing of the past…. but in the cold light of day I still cant get my head around what Rafa has ‘really’ achieved apart from the Champions League which was a hard act to follow.

In comparison to the silverware produced and titles won, I think it still suggests [sorry] a true lack of vision and/or talent what annoys me it is  interesting to see former Liverpool players Craig Bellamy and Robbie Keane (originally brought to the club by Benitez) both achieving significant success for other teams on the incline. They are both a brand of Liverpool players we or I loved – the typical game-breakers who regularly produce goals out of nothing.

OK …. Is it the players or the Manager???

And when you watch sky sports touting today the ins and outs of Liverpool and the ‘two man team’ discussed on various radio stations.

I then look at Lucas and then Babel ….  Alberto Aquilani a player that has huge amounts of talent but has spent months on the treatment table …

Then finally a number of weeks ago that George Gillett publicly criticized Benitez for Liverpool’s, at the time, third defeat of the season away to Chelsea.

Gillet insistend that Benitez in the last 5 years had already had the time and finances to produce a title winning side……..

Players or Manager?


I really dont know but this is all very painful

Welcome to the forum mate, there are more than a few lads who post who are around your slender age, dont worry.

Get stuck in and enjoy yourself and ignore the silly posts such as this nonsense to sack Rafa.

In fairness the thread is called "sack him" Reg 

Anfield's Finest wrote:Did he have to sell Arbeloa? No he didnt he sold him to bring Glen in.

Reg wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Especially annoying when you see good english players being bought for sub 10m prices - Turner, Cattermole, Owen, Warnock, etc

All of which would improve our current squad and surely would of chosen Liverpool over the teams they are at now.

If Rafa goes, I would like a manager that appreciates the quality of English players.

Turner cost 12Mil didn't he? Cattermole would have been a good buy for us. Would easily keep Lucas out of the squad imo.

Yeah but Rafael only had 1.5 million to spend so you have to point the finger at whoever provides the money - the owners.

Anfield's Finest wrote:

Lando_Griffin wrote:

Anfield's Finest wrote:

Kopite25 wrote:Yes we may not have spent anything net this summer.

Spending £40 million isnt nothing.

With that £40 million he could of brought in 5 good squad players and he didnt. Rafa brought in England's best right back - yes Glen has turned out to be one of the highlights this season but did we really need him? No.

Aquilani has come in and nobody has seen him either - yes he is injured but we needed a replacement for Xabi straight away not November.

And then we sign a useless Greek centre half - his first game at Bolton summed him up. Useless.

Who would YOU play at rightback, then?

You know full well that if he'd signed a lesser player purely to fill Alonso's position immediately you would slate him for that, too. "Oh, he should have waited and bought the right player, yadda, yadda, yadda..."

Rafa wanted Turner, you dick. The owners said "no".

Did he have to sell Arbeloa? No he didnt he sold him to bring Glen in.

Instead of swearing everytime you post put your very small footballing brain into gear and think things through.

*Now awaits f.....g loon etc.*

Lee J wrote:

Dirty Barry wrote:If we lose Sunday the season is all but over (Maybe we could win the FA Cup) so they will keep Rafa until the end of the season hoping they have secured more investment.

Of course if we win Sunday, win our remaining Champions League games we will be wondering what all the fuss was about.

The only way Rafa is going is if he decides to, the Amercans haven't go the balls or the money to,

you tick turd

how is the season all but over? what, 28 games left? all over?

Yeah that is a bit premature, but unless we change how we play and start creating more then we really are fecked. A loss to Manure at the weekend won't mean the season is over but it may well see the start of the end for Rafa, I just can't see us changing this round at the moment, a win against Manure might do it but if we loose then that'll be 5 losses on the bounce.   

stmichael wrote:No self respecting manager will want to come to a club with absolutely bugger all money or ambition anyway which is what the current owners have reduced our club to.