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by **Judge** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:12 pm

bigmick wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
bigmick wrote:What happened to the other Real Madrid Liverpool thread, I thought there already was one

Out of order Lynds innit

I think you're right though Judgie, right liberty I reckon

its ok mick, thanks for noticing tho

if you get time, have one of your scallions to deliver a large bulbous dildo to bobs bad ar'se

by **europian-kings** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:40 pm

If Torres, benayoun, agger, arbeloa and riera all can't play....i struggle to think of a formation and squad....

hmmmm

by **heimdall** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:50 pm

europian-kings wrote:If Torres, benayoun, agger, arbeloa and riera all can't play....i struggle to think of a formation and squad....

hmmmm

11 players lined up on the goal line perhaps

by **mkingdom** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:47 pm

Reina

Masch Carra Skrtel Dossena

Kuyt Alonso Lucas Aurelio

Gerrard

Torres/EggNog

Not that I am thrilled with this line up, it shows we can put a team out.

I suppose this highlights that our squad is inadequate. Compared to what Manure put out vs Fulham as their B team, we are lacking.

The above says we have 1 RB at the club, Lucas isn't good enough, Dossena should be fourth in line for LB (even though JAR left, I'd still put him 3rd before Dossena) :;):

and Egg Nog shows promise but isn't good enough yet.

Plan B could be

Reina

Masch Carra Skrtel Aurelio

Kuyt Alonso Lucas Babel

Gerrard

Torres/EggNog

Which I'd prefer.

I think Torres will play....Rafa will throw everything at the CL, and with Torres back in training I expect him to play.

If that is the case I'd play

Reina

Masch Carra Skrtel Aurelio

Kuyt Alonso Gerrard Babel

Torres EggNog

as it means no Dossena and no Lucas. Rafa will play Lucas though...he will want two holding midfielders and Gerrard behind the front man.

So yes we can put several teams out...we have "possibilities". :talktothehand

by **Ciggy** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:54 pm

""Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a sh!t hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a sh!t hanging from a stick."

You will be sh!tting yourself tommorrow night ignorant b@stard.

by **Judge** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:02 pm

Ciggy wrote:""Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a sh!t hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a sh!t hanging from a stick."

You will be sh!tting yourself tommorrow night ignorant b@stard.

who said that?

by **JamCar05** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:50 pm

Three concerns for Rafa the gaffer

Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez has three fitness concerns ahead of Tuesday's Champions League last-16 second leg against Real Madrid at Anfield.

Striker Fernando Torres (ankle) has been in light training for two days, while full-back Alvaro Arbeloa (hamstring) is also close to being involved. Midfielder Yossi Benayoun, however, is almost certainly out with a hamstring injury.

Benitez will give all three every opportunity to prove their fitness for the tie, with Liverpool 1-0 up from the first leg a fortnight ago in the Bernabeu.

Albert Riera is suspended after being booked in the first match.

Reds (from): Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Hyypia, Skrtel, Dossena, Aurelio, Kuyt, Gerrard, Mascherano, Alonso, Lucas, Babel, Torres, Benayoun, Ngog, Cavalieri, Darby, Irwin, Spearing.

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_5029128,00.html
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Still no Agger

(though he probably wouldn't have played anyway). From that squad it does look inevitable that Babel will play from begin on if Benny is indeed out (either that or Dossena will play in defence and Aurelio at LM imo).

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:52 pm

Steve McManaman helped Real Madrid win two European Cups during his time at the Bernabeu and strutted his stuff with the likes of Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo, Luis Figo, Roberto Carlos, Raul and Fernando Hierro.

They are great names for a club with a great past but the present, as McManaman tells BBC Sport, is a different story, with Real arriving on Merseyside to try to overturn a 1-0 deficit from the first leg of their last-16 Champions League tie against Liverpool.

Although they are record nine-time winners of the European Cup, Real have not progressed beyond the last 16 in the competition in four seasons and McManaman thinks that run will continue after Tuesday's second leg at Anfield.

It's getting results over a 38-game in the Premier League where Liverpool have faltered

Steve McManaman
"Real are a different team now with different individuals and I can't see them turning around the tie," said the 37-year-old, who won the competition with the Spaniards in 2000 and 2002.

"Liverpool are favourites to go through.

"If anything there might be a slightly different task now for Liverpool as a 0-0 result will see them through but they have to be positive rather than trying to play out for the draw because when you start doing that people get nervous.

"Real will have to go out and try to outgun Liverpool and that will play right into their hands.

"There will be acres of space for Liverpool and they will create chances and, at set-pieces, Real are certainly vulnerable."

He added: "Liverpool will still have to be wary of Arjen Robben, Raul and Gonzalo Higuain. Guti is also back. He picks out a good pass up front and can thread balls through. "You have to be aware of Real's attacking prowess but on a special European night the atmosphere will be incredible and I can't see anything but a Liverpool victory."

McManaman started and scored in his first final against Valencia in Paris, while he came on as a 61st-minute substitute for Figo in the second as Real beat Bayer Leverkusen at Hampden.

A cult Los Blancos hero compared to the Galatico status of his more revered team-mates, McManamanwas held in affection on the Anfield terraces where he was dubbed "Shaggy" for his wavy locks and slight frame.

But the confidence he has in Liverpool achieving further European success does not apply to the club's challenge for a first Premier League title since 1989-1990.

"In knockout games home and away, Liverpool know how to get results but it's sustaining that and getting them over 38 games in the Premier League where they have faltered," he said.

"Manchester United might be big favourites to win almost everything this season but you wouldn't relish playing Liverpool in a knockout situation.

"They know how to grind teams down and stifle them and make it a battle.

"It's the tactical nous of manager Rafael Benitez. He sets the team up in a particular way and it gets results.

"It's not as creative as Manchester United but defensively they have a certain way of playing and they can get results. They mean business in Europe."

But what helps Liverpool in Europe appears to be their downfall in the top flight as they have struggled to break down defensive-minded opponents and drawn six out of 14 league games at home this season.

"Domestically, it's a long season and when teams come to Anfield and just sit and stifle Liverpool, then they need the creativity to break them down," explained McManaman.

"You can win by the odd goal home and away in Europe, whereas in the Premier League you have to go out and beat teams, especially at home, when sometimes it's hardest.

"At the minute, Manchester United have that edge. They have that little bit more creativity.

"Liverpool may have two or three players who can open up defences where Manchester United have three, four, five and then some on the bench just in case.

Striker Robbie Keane was supposed to add some flair to the Anfield attack when he signed last summer but he returned to Tottenham in the January transfer window after failing to impress Benitez.

"I would rather have had him in my squad than not," said McManaman. "If Liverpool had sold him and brought in another player I could have understood it.

"For three or four months I would have kept him, seen what happens and sold him at the end of the season if that was the way it was going to go."

The ongoing boardroom politics also seem to be blocking the club's progress and, until that is solved, doubts will remain over the ability of the Reds to break Manchester United's stranglehold and compete on and off the pitch.

McManaman concluded: "The sooner Liverpool are sorted out with a new stadium and going forward in that direction there will always be question marks about them."

by **Rockthekop** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:56 pm

I'm more confident that we will progress with not having to score rather than chasing the game.

We did what we had to do in the 1st leg without having to play anywhere beyond decent.

Real Madrid were poor in the 1st leg, we should expect a much better performance tomorrow night.

by **Ciggy** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:07 pm

Judge wrote:
Ciggy wrote:""Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a sh!t hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a sh!t hanging from a stick."

You will be sh!tting yourself tommorrow night ignorant b@stard.

who said that?

Former Real Madrid coach Jorge Valdano.

by **Roger Red Hat** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:23 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Judge wrote:
Ciggy wrote:""Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a sh!t hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a sh!t hanging from a stick."

You will be sh!tting yourself tommorrow night ignorant b@stard.

who said that?

Former Real Madrid coach Jorge Valdano.

CIGGY - our diplomatic correspondent. :laugh:

by **meissler** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:24 pm

YES! I'm in the States and just found out the game will be televised!

by **Bad Bob** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:24 pm

YES! I found out our clocks have "sprung forward" earlier than those in the UK, which means I'll be able to get home from work in time to watch the whole match this week, rather than just watching the 2nd half and watching the first half on the re-broadcast (nothing flatter when you already know the outcome). :cool:

by **europian-kings** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:35 pm

This is the vid i have been watching before champions league games this season.....

real gets me in "the european mood"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?g....related

by **Sabre** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:40 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Judge wrote:
Ciggy wrote:""Football is made up of subjective feeling, of suggestion - and, in that, Anfield is unbeatable. Put a sh!t hanging from a stick in the middle of this passionate, crazy stadium and there are people who will tell you it's a work of art. It's not: it's a sh!t hanging from a stick."

You will be sh!tting yourself tommorrow night ignorant b@stard.

who said that?

Former Real Madrid coach Jorge Valdano.

Yes, the translation is spot on and it's not lost in translation.

Now the context.

THere was a bid for a player in 2004, and Real Madrid competed with Liverpool. And a certain Valdano who was the guy to make the signings in Real Madrid, was veeery confident of getting Alonso on a bargain. In the mean time a certain Rafa Benitez was in Goodison Park in a Everton - Real Sociedad friendly. When the match ended, Rafa went to the Real Sociedad dressroom and said to Xabi: I want you in Liverpool.

Xabi didn't ever bother to contact Real Madrid again. And since then Valdano is not happy with Rafa Benitez or Liverpool.

I think it's what you called a "chip in the shoulder"? in my town we call it "dirty envy".

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