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by **neil** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:13 pm

I have to say that Lucas really needs to sort himself out. He never looks for the ball and when he happens to receive it he lays it sideways or back to a defender with his first touch. There was groan in the boozer when we saw the line-up and considering the only difference to our team prediction was lucas instead of alonso..says it all and he played like we expected. I have to say theres too many boring struggles at home this season, I worry that I'm not watching champion material.

by **Number 9** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:17 pm

neil wrote:I have to say that Lucas really needs to sort himself out. He never looks for the ball and when he happens to receive it he lays it sideways or back to a defender with his first touch. There was groan in the boozer when we saw the line-up and considering the only difference to our team prediction was lucas instead of alonso..says it all and he played like we expected. I have to say theres too many boring struggles at home this season, I worry that I'm not watching champion material.

He cant sort himself out mate,its not in him!
Rafa needs to ship him out...Brazilian young player of the year my @rse!We've been had,no one told us but he was Brazilian young player of the year at darts.
It sure as feck was'nt footy!

by **tubby** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:18 pm

He was a lot better after half time and almost scored for us. Admitted I was slagging him of to the teeth today but whatever Rafa said at half time seemed to do the trick. At home though when you are joint top of the table you should not need a rant from the manager to get into 2nd gear. Your position should be motivation enough. Anyway its over now.

by **calkop** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:29 pm

All the blame for today fall squarely on the shoulders of . . . 44,000 Anfield "supporters". What a load of :censored:

that was. We are not Manure, Chelski or Arsenal. We are not a bunch of finicky, snotty, stuck up a$$holes. We are f***ing Liverpool FC. We support the 11 players who take the field and represent our great team. That was a disgrace today. No support for the team whatsoever. Waiting to be entertained instead of getting right behind the team and showing support. I know some of you don;t like Lucas and have blamed the entire Carling Cup defeat at Spurs on him, but he is not going to play any better with 44,000 people waiting for him to make a mistake instead of willing him to do great. You really expected him to do any better by booing the decision to not take him off. Come on! End Result: Fulham 0 - pathetic Liverpool "supporters" 0. I bet Lucas would have played much better and we would have won easily at Craven Cottage. Many more displays like this and Anfield will become what Wembley is to England.

by **Leonmc0708** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:35 pm

Robbie Keane, £20m, proven in the league at the exact same level, given ample time and plenty of game time.

Lucas, £8m, not played in this league before, given no time whatsoever and expected to perform with small cameos here and there.

Difference ?

by **LegBarnes** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:40 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:Robbie Keane, £20m, proven in the league at the exact same level, given ample time and plenty of game time.

Lucas, £8m, not played in this league before, given no time whatsoever and expected to perform with small cameos here and there.

Difference ?

I am not lucas's biggest fan atm he just is to young and don't have the skill to play in the league yet maybe never drop him loan him out to a wigin for a year and see where he is after that.

by **Rush Job** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:42 pm

Number 9 wrote:
metalhead wrote:did anyone see that? what a gesture from the himself

Saying im number 1 in the world!
He makes me fuc'king sick..total arrogant greasy we shi'te!I hope someone breaks his legs!

Who did what like?

by **tubby** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:48 pm

Ronaldo when he got subbed making some gestures like metalhead number9 said.

by **Number 9** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:58 pm

Rush Job wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
metalhead wrote:did anyone see that? what a gesture from the himself

Saying im number 1 in the world!
He makes me fuc'king sick..total arrogant greasy we shi'te!I hope someone breaks his legs!

Who did what like?

Ronaldo got subbed off mate and as he was going down the tunnel the Villa fans were giving a bit of aggro(nothing special,just the sort ya see at every ground even on corners)
And he pointed to himself,holding 1 finger in the air and shouted up number one..number one..number one!

Just total arrogance,they wont show it on MOTD though,cant portray"the best player in the world" as the self absorbed arrogant little kunt that he is!
I hope he gets his legs broke,diving about like a fan,ny again today...glad John Gregory pointed it out.Most commentators buy it like the refs!
I hate the fu'cker,nearly as much as Gary Neville!

by **Rush Job** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:02 pm

bavlondon wrote:He was a lot better after half time and almost scored for us. Admitted I was slagging him of to the teeth today but whatever Rafa said at half time seemed to do the trick.

It was more down to Alonso coming on IMO, Lucas always looks a different player when played with Alonso because he`s given the ball further up the park.
I`d like to see him loaned out because he`s got no confidence and is scared stiff of making a mistake, which is why he too often puts it sideways or back where it came instead of trying a more risky pass.
I`d like to see him have a season at spurs under harry, a more arm round the shoulder, motivating type.

by **Rush Job** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:05 pm

Number 9 wrote:
Rush Job wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
metalhead wrote:did anyone see that? what a gesture from the himself

Saying im number 1 in the world!
He makes me fuc'king sick..total arrogant greasy we shi'te!I hope someone breaks his legs!

Who did what like?

Ronaldo got subbed off mate and as he was going down the tunnel the Villa fans were giving a bit of aggro(nothing special,just the sort ya see at every ground even on corners)
And he pointed to himself,holding 1 finger in the air and shouted up number one..number one..number one!

Just total arrogance,they wont show it on MOTD though,cant portray"the best player in the world" as the self absorbed arrogant little kunt that he is!
I hope he gets his legs broke,diving about like a fan,ny again today...glad John Gregory pointed it out.Most commentators buy it like the refs!
I hate the fu'cker,nearly as much as Gary Neville!

It`ll be his last season in the prem, they should have sold him in the summer when he said he wanted to go.

by **tubby** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:07 pm

Rush Job wrote:
bavlondon wrote:He was a lot better after half time and almost scored for us. Admitted I was slagging him of to the teeth today but whatever Rafa said at half time seemed to do the trick.

It was more down to Alonso coming on IMO, Lucas always looks a different player when played with Alonso because he`s given the ball further up the park.
I`d like to see him loaned out because he`s got no confidence and is scared stiff of making a mistake, which is why he too often puts it sideways or back where it came instead of trying a more risky pass.
I`d like to see him have a season at spurs under harry, a more arm round the shoulder, motivating type.

We are not rich enough to be spending 8Mil on a player to then loan him out.

Just sell him already.

by **LegBarnes** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:09 pm

I hate

like him makes my skin boil 5 mins alone in a room please god I beat some of that :censored:

out of him.

Ok that just sounded semi homo-erotic *blush* :blush:

by **Bad Bob** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:10 pm

A very disappointing match. We just looked out of sorts from the off and never really found a cutting edge. Fulham bossed us about for a lot of the first half, which was worrying, but we took control of the game completely in the second half. As ever, though, we looked well short of ideas against a team that sat back and the game just fizzled out. Alonso was sorely missed from the start and the Torres/Keane partnership was simply not clicking. Like many, I'd like to see us go back to 4-2-3-1 when Stevie returns and hope to get Torres back into the kind of scoring groove we know he's capable of. Once that's established, we can think about how to integrate Keane--if indeed there's a need to.

by **Rush Job** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:20 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Rush Job wrote:
bavlondon wrote:He was a lot better after half time and almost scored for us. Admitted I was slagging him of to the teeth today but whatever Rafa said at half time seemed to do the trick.

It was more down to Alonso coming on IMO, Lucas always looks a different player when played with Alonso because he`s given the ball further up the park.
I`d like to see him loaned out because he`s got no confidence and is scared stiff of making a mistake, which is why he too often puts it sideways or back where it came instead of trying a more risky pass.
I`d like to see him have a season at spurs under harry, a more arm round the shoulder, motivating type.

We are not rich enough to be spending 8Mil on a player to then loan him out.

Just sell him already.

But bav the lad hardly gets any footy, for us or the ressies. I think a large portion of the fee was down to potential but all we are doing is holdng that potential back like we have so many times before.
How can you expect the lad to improve when he`s without regular footy and when he does get a game he gets jib from his own support, I`d be hiding too.
The fact we invested 8m is surly more reason to help his development by getting him regular footy at a decent side for a season.
Had we loaned sinama and warnock we could have saved our selves a packet.

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