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bigmick wrote:

LegBarnes wrote:Just like some other greats gazza , henery , ronaldo(brazilian) , Collymore.

Loved this line Leg. Don't know if you were taking the p!ss putting Collymore in there but it made me laugh anyhow. 

hey he had his moments and I feel he needs a bit of 

mistyred wrote:Why we as supporters desacrate our own players is beyond me, i hope this never spill onto the terraces as a player
could severly suffer with these types of negative views.

Why can we not focus on the good things instead of the bad all the time? i just think some people are petty little Fuckwits
who at the drop of a dime are only to quick to point out a players misgivings rather than a layers attributes.

Wow Some one with a brain I Don'y Beliiiiiieve it !

I let some one else get s victor pic in . 

Emerald Red wrote:I distinctly remembering Henry being w@nk for two seasons. I'm not saying he'll turn into a similar player, but this is just one example of a player all of a sudden exploding into a superstar, and I hope that no one comes on here and tells me they seen it coming with him when he first came to Arsenal, because they'd be talking shyte.

Is that in his first season where he was joint top scorer in the premier league and england along with Michael Owen and if am not mistaken (although I could be) Hasselbaink...

Yeah, totally W*nk, I mean anyone that leads a side to finishing second and scoring all those goals is totally W*nk.

What a rediculously stupid post that is lad. Henry came into the league and was inconsistent, thats all, he ripped a new out of nearly every team when he came into the country.

I'm sick to death of hearing this pathetic myth about Henry and Pires being then all of a sudden becoming world class. Its stupid idiot wits like yourself that believe this complete and utter tripe.

Clueless lad, completely and utterly clueless.

"Remember Henry" Babel.... what a bloody joke that arguement is...

flamingpoe wrote:maypax back again :P
we shud stop bitching about babel he is a quality little lad that needs to be given more play to get better and more used to pl but without question we need to use him more often otherwise we are gonna rue the day that he left to go to a terrible team middlesborough, west ham or some other team in another league for example and all of a sudden become a stunningly good player why?......well if you cant figure that out you need to be shot.....

saying that i believe that he needs to be utilised in the striker position but mine wud be more like so :-

                reina
aurelio   carra   skrtel    agger
           
            mascherano

  riera                     gerrard

                keane
        babel         torres

Fo Dne wrote:Is that in his first season where he was joint top scorer in the premier league and england along with Michael Owen and if am not mistaken (although I could be) Hasselbaink...

bigmick wrote:Totally from memory as well, i think it took Henri quite a few games to get off the mark as well. Like I've said before, Rafa isn't comparable with Shankly, Paisley and Dalglish, and Babel ain't no Thierry Henri either. That's not to say he can't make himself into a footballer because unlike Stu I do think he has a chance, but Thierry Henri? Lets be serious. The other name which often gets bandied about is Robert Pires and how he was sh!te for the first couple of seasons. This too is utter b0ll0cks of course, he was playing regularly in a fairly all conquering Arsenal team so he was no mug.

I think sometimes people confuse a slowness on the part of the media to recognise a good player with a player being sh!te. No doubtr they'll be talking in years to come about Hleb being sh!te in his first couple of seasons at Arsenal. He wasn't of course, it just took the media a couple of seasons or so to catch on to the fact he was a superb footballer.

I remember sitting in the pub watching Arsenal in Thierry's first season and my mate was saying he was , I hadn't seen him at the time, I'd only heard the name because of championship manager and all the usual from young teenagers thinking they know what they are talkin about because of that game...

Anyway, about thirty seconds after me mate said he was , he picked the ball, up skinned someone and smashed it into the net.

The point I keep making Mick is players don't become something they are not. Ask yourself, have you ever seen a young player come through at anfield and completely change from one type of a player to another? Have you every seen a player go from having an average touch, to a very good one? Someone being an average passer to a great one?

You see players occassionally grow in stature and confidence, just as you see their legs go, but players ability changes very very little from 15-19 to 30 when the usually start the decline.

Lads at 15 already have there touch and technique and habbits sorted. They already have the general basis of their game, you aren't going to change there ability much at that age, obviousy some players are more fine tuned or talented at that age, you get Rooney at 16 and Gerrard nearly 19 coming through, but they are usually already pretty set in their ways.

Babel will never learn to attack space, he'll never learn to run around players instead of into them and he'll never do certain things that make a player. He also can't take a ball on the move, he has to have a static touch all the time. The lad lacks far to many qualities to make a top player and all these people claiming he's a striker got their eye wiped with his performance (or lack of) again tonight.

No-where near the standard of player we need and a waste of money.