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by **LegBarnes** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:35 am

yeah wait till last min of window and offor MON pennent 2 mil and the little book of calm

by **LegBarnes** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:42 am

MoN needs to give up his job as a manager and become stunt double for ......

If i didnt have 2 eyes i swear they was twins

by **The Manhattan Project** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:21 pm

This thing STILL hasn't been resolved?

Good lord.

by **Judge** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:45 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:

Good lord.

yes my son

by **Toffeehater** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:23 pm

How long does barry have left in his contract or how long till he can use the webster ruling , the one fat frank recently threatened to use ?

by **Owzat** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:21 pm

Rafa-Dodd wrote:I noticed Martin O'Neil has been talking to the media twice in the past week re-iterating the fact that they are waiting on Liverpool to come back. Its not the same story twice, it was two seperate chats with the media where he mentioned it twice. It seems to me that Martin O'Neil is getting a "twitchy bum".

It seems that he is slightly worried now that because of his over-valuation of the player, we might actually just walk away - especially with it now half certain that Xabi will be with us next year. £18m for a 27 year old with 2 years left on his contract is ludidcous. He was just doing what we would expect and demand of Rafa and he played his hand very well at the start.

However it now looks like he may of OVERPLAYED his hand, and with Rafa cooling off and Barry cast aside, its now seems we have the upper hand and I would suggest his recent comments this week shows he wants the deal to be put to bed soon as possible. He knows the longer it goes on the worse its going to be for Aston Villa - and Rafa knows this too.

Rafa's playing O'Neil just as well as O'Neil played Rafa, but now we do have the upper hand.

Liverpool should have played down interest from the off, if you make it too obvious you give the selling club the upper hand and they take the mic. Let the leprechaun sweat it, he's quite possibly wanting to spend the fee and will also be keen to know if he needs a RB or not, if Finnan is to be part of any deal. I say let Barny get fit with villa, don't worry about cup tie situations etc, or him maybe starting the season with villa, and then make a LOWER bid early to mid-August. If they're not prepared to negotiate a lower price then make the same lower bid a week later until the end of the season looms. That way either villa negotiate a realistic price or keep him.

Personally I still don't want him, but I could live with signing him at a reasonable price somewhere near what he is worth. £18m is around 50% too much accounting for age, if you take into account we don't need him (that much/at all) then we shouldn't be bidding for him. If we've got £18m to spend, even if depending on sales, then why fill a position that doesn't need filling?!?!?

I read villa have decided to pull out of bidding for Bentley, so much for money not being an issue as some of their fans would have us believe is the case. They are reportedly looking at Milner, if money is no issue they could sign up players from similar sized clubs, but they're still bargain hunting or shopping in Marks & Sparks rather than Harrods.

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:09 pm

Owzat wrote:
Rafa-Dodd wrote:I noticed Martin O'Neil has been talking to the media twice in the past week re-iterating the fact that they are waiting on Liverpool to come back. Its not the same story twice, it was two seperate chats with the media where he mentioned it twice. It seems to me that Martin O'Neil is getting a "twitchy bum".

It seems that he is slightly worried now that because of his over-valuation of the player, we might actually just walk away - especially with it now half certain that Xabi will be with us next year. £18m for a 27 year old with 2 years left on his contract is ludidcous. He was just doing what we would expect and demand of Rafa and he played his hand very well at the start.

However it now looks like he may of OVERPLAYED his hand, and with Rafa cooling off and Barry cast aside, its now seems we have the upper hand and I would suggest his recent comments this week shows he wants the deal to be put to bed soon as possible. He knows the longer it goes on the worse its going to be for Aston Villa - and Rafa knows this too.

Rafa's playing O'Neil just as well as O'Neil played Rafa, but now we do have the upper hand.

Liverpool should have played down interest from the off, if you make it too obvious you give the selling club the upper hand and they take the mic. Let the leprechaun sweat it, he's quite possibly wanting to spend the fee and will also be keen to know if he needs a RB or not, if Finnan is to be part of any deal. I say let Barny get fit with villa, don't worry about cup tie situations etc, or him maybe starting the season with villa, and then make a LOWER bid early to mid-August. If they're not prepared to negotiate a lower price then make the same lower bid a week later until the end of the season looms. That way either villa negotiate a realistic price or keep him.

Personally I still don't want him, but I could live with signing him at a reasonable price somewhere near what he is worth. £18m is around 50% too much accounting for age, if you take into account we don't need him (that much/at all) then we shouldn't be bidding for him. If we've got £18m to spend, even if depending on sales, then why fill a position that doesn't need filling?!?!?

I read villa have decided to pull out of bidding for Bentley, so much for money not being an issue as some of their fans would have us believe is the case. They are reportedly looking at Milner, if money is no issue they could sign up players from similar sized clubs, but they're still bargain hunting or shopping in Marks & Sparks rather than Harrods.

The fact that it has gone very quiet is not a worry for me. Looks like Rafa is playing the game. There is no way back for Barry @ Villa now and MON knows that. Do you see Villa rumoured with anyone at the moment??? No because they have no cash without selling Barry. The longer this drags on the better for us as MON will have to budge if he is to have any pennies to spend in the transfer window.

by **Rafa D** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:55 pm

Read a tit bit today from Sunday's Mirror about how Martin O'Neil was trying to smooth things over with Barry and was considering putting him in squad but Barry re-iterated his desire to move. Fits in with Martin worrying....

by **desmdlow** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:34 am

But this works both ways isn't it? We still have not make a 'big' signing. Is this also somehow related? We are waiting to see if barry comes in and decide who to sign? This is getting too long drawn. IMO

by **LegBarnes** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:27 am

I am sure barry at this moment in time is really :censored:

off i would be i am sure he rather be with rafa training , getting used to his new team mates so MON is doing him self no favors dragging this out.

Makes you wonder i used to think MON had a good head on him but it seems he is a complete bell end in more then one respect.

To think i thought he would have been a good england manager at one point. :blush:

by **Roger Red Hat** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:02 am

to think that a whole load of liverpool fans wanted him as manager a while back

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:48 am

Lee J wrote:to think that a whole load of liverpool fans wanted him as manager a while back

I'm miffed about his behaviour but if you look from a Villa fans perspective you must be loving it. I mean we would all want Rafa to resist a Gerrard sale as much as MON is for Barry

by **Roger Red Hat** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:20 am

correct. We'd do exactly this same.

ive no doubt Barry will join us - just a matter of when.

by **Owzat** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:02 pm

Lee J wrote:to think that a whole load of liverpool fans wanted him as manager a while back

Not I, never have rated him as a manager. If he manages to rip us off for the second time then I may well give him credit for his nerve.

by **lakes10** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:55 pm

Our scouts have been at Southend United this week, not sure who they are looking at but there is a few good players there right now.

We have done some trade before with them.

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