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by **dawson99** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:20 pm

o'neils a fukcnig pr!ck

sorry, but hes just a whiny little t!t and everyone is starting to see it. cant he shut up for 2 mins

by **Toffeehater** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:30 pm

O neil is worried as if he does not get the 18 million for the sale of barry he can't buy any more players , he needs this deal to go through and i think we can offer lower , say around 14 million and he should accept and come to 15 million plus add ones .

by **7_Kewell** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:08 pm

if Arsenal want Barry for 18 million they're welcome to him. MON can shove his deadline where the sun don't shine.

by **Scottbot** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:44 pm

Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

by **Number 9** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:09 pm

Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

Yes!
You are right,some expect O'Neill to just say its Liverpool,buckle at the knees and sell his best player for peanuts!
I dont agree with everything O'Neill has done,he could have done without making some silly comments.
BUT i do respect him for showing some balls and standing up to what Villa could describe from their point of veiw as arrogance!
Some can only see things from one side though!

by **Toffeehater** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:24 pm

Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

good post scott , fully agree . Some on here need to lighten up , barry will come its just a matter of time

by **Kharhaz** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:10 pm

Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

The problem people have with him is that rafa made an enquiry to villa about the availability of barry and rather than say "sorry rafa hes staying with us, we are looking to add to the squad to challenge for a european place" he ran off to the media crying like a baby and continued it through his "punditry"on bbc during the euros. Since he babbled to the press about it rafa has kept quite, while o'neill has acted like a child. He spat his dummy out with rafa rather than having discussions with barry about the interest liverpool are showing and how he is an integral part of the villa team. No instead he pursued his own interests i.e a pundit for the euros. At first I was sympathetic with him but as time has gone on he is, in all respect, a wally.

by **metalhead** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:21 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

The problem people have with him is that rafa made an enquiry to villa about the availability of barry and rather than say "sorry rafa hes staying with us, we are looking to add to the squad to challenge for a european place" he ran off to the media crying like a baby and continued it through his "punditry"on bbc during the euros. Since he babbled to the press about it rafa has kept quite, while o'neill has acted like a child. He spat his dummy out with rafa rather than having discussions with barry about the interest liverpool are showing and how he is an integral part of the villa team. No instead he pursued his own interests i.e a pundit for the euros. At first I was sympathetic with him but as time has gone on he is, in all respect, a wally.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:22 pm

I think O'Neill would be secretly delighted if he got £18million for Barry as he is probably only worth around £12/14 million, it would be a bit like when Chelsea offered £40 million for Gerrard if we had turned round and said you can have him for £60million. At the time Rafa would have been delighted at the price, even though he would have had regrets at losing his best player.

by **Scottbot** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:53 am

metalhead wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

The problem people have with him is that rafa made an enquiry to villa about the availability of barry and rather than say "sorry rafa hes staying with us, we are looking to add to the squad to challenge for a european place" he ran off to the media crying like a baby and continued it through his "punditry"on bbc during the euros. Since he babbled to the press about it rafa has kept quite, while o'neill has acted like a child. He spat his dummy out with rafa rather than having discussions with barry about the interest liverpool are showing and how he is an integral part of the villa team. No instead he pursued his own interests i.e a pundit for the euros. At first I was sympathetic with him but as time has gone on he is, in all respect, a wally.

Am sorry lads but that sounds like more of the sour grapes 'how dare you defy LFC' & 'How dare you abuse your pudit status to have a SLIGHT whinge about the situation...' rubbish that i've been reading in this thread for the last 50-Odd pages.

If we want the player then pay the money. It's as simple as that for me. Chelsea would have paid it by now as would the mancs, the transfer would have gone through weeks ago. But unfortunately we have a transfer policy that's about as dynamic as Austin powers doing a three-point turn in a JCB.

by **Kharhaz** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:59 am

Scottbot wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

The problem people have with him is that rafa made an enquiry to villa about the availability of barry and rather than say "sorry rafa hes staying with us, we are looking to add to the squad to challenge for a european place" he ran off to the media crying like a baby and continued it through his "punditry"on bbc during the euros. Since he babbled to the press about it rafa has kept quite, while o'neill has acted like a child. He spat his dummy out with rafa rather than having discussions with barry about the interest liverpool are showing and how he is an integral part of the villa team. No instead he pursued his own interests i.e a pundit for the euros. At first I was sympathetic with him but as time has gone on he is, in all respect, a wally.

Am sorry lads but that sounds like more of the sour grapes 'how dare you defy LFC' & 'How dare you abuse your pudit status to have a SLIGHT whinge about the situation...' rubbish that i've been reading in this thread for the last 50-Odd pages.

If we want the player then pay the money. It's as simple as that for me. Chelsea would have paid it by now as would the mancs, the transfer would have gone through weeks ago. But unfortunately we have a transfer policy that's about as dynamic as Austin powers doing a three-point turn in a JCB.

I dont think they would. £18 million for a player close to 30? You would have to be a world beater type of player for that amount of money, not even chelsea would pay that. Barry is good player, thats it. £18 million worth? not a chance.

by **LegBarnes** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:28 am

Kharhaz wrote:
Scottbot wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is. He's made it very clear how much he wants for the player from the word go and he's stuck to it. Now things are dragging on he wants to know whether we are gonna pay the asking price or not + whether maybe he needs to consider the player might be staying at Villa and he gets villafied (couldn't resist!) for that as well. Where's the problem? If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

The problem people have with him is that rafa made an enquiry to villa about the availability of barry and rather than say "sorry rafa hes staying with us, we are looking to add to the squad to challenge for a european place" he ran off to the media crying like a baby and continued it through his "punditry"on bbc during the euros. Since he babbled to the press about it rafa has kept quite, while o'neill has acted like a child. He spat his dummy out with rafa rather than having discussions with barry about the interest liverpool are showing and how he is an integral part of the villa team. No instead he pursued his own interests i.e a pundit for the euros. At first I was sympathetic with him but as time has gone on he is, in all respect, a wally.

Am sorry lads but that sounds like more of the sour grapes 'how dare you defy LFC' & 'How dare you abuse your pudit status to have a SLIGHT whinge about the situation...' rubbish that i've been reading in this thread for the last 50-Odd pages.

If we want the player then pay the money. It's as simple as that for me. Chelsea would have paid it by now as would the mancs, the transfer would have gone through weeks ago. But unfortunately we have a transfer policy that's about as dynamic as Austin powers doing a three-point turn in a JCB.

I dont think they would. £18 million for a player close to 30? You would have to be a world beater type of player for that amount of money, not even chelsea would pay that. Barry is good player, thats it. £18 million worth? not a chance.

When you think henry went for around 17 mil to barca its stupid really not even close to real price.

I think MON should be very happy at 15 mil offor since i think 12 is tops we should pay.

by **Owzat** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:20 am

Scottbot wrote:Once again people it strikes me that (as fans) we are just about as arrogant as the top 4 club we support. I still can't see why anyone's got a problem with O'neil? It sounds like sour grapes to me everytime I read what a tos.ser he is.

If he was our manager placed in a similar situation with the likes of Madrid chasing Gerrard then EVERY SINGLE ONE of you would be praising the guy. Wouldn't you?

I've never liked MON, made worse by anyone and everyone who claims he's one of the best managers and want(ed) him for England. He's won a two bit cup with a third rate side - so what? He's won the two horse race that is the SPL with one of the horses - so what? He reached the UEFA Cup Final which is full of teams not good enough to get into the Champions League or stay in it for those that drop out - so what? (Rangers did the same, shows how weak the competition is)

And as a pundit he's annoying. I will admit I am hacked off at the whole villa attitude in this transfer and his comments. I wouldn't want him as our manager, would be the first incoming manager I hated enough not to give a chance. I don't believe we could be in the same situation, not as things stand. But if Gerrard wanted to go to another big club, then we'd see what money was wanted. The difference there would be Gerrard is worth £18m - and the rest. GB isn't even the best player at villa, I think some/half/most (delete as applicable) of their fans rate AY better. While I laughed at the money they paid WATFORD for him, he is a good little player but never worth what they paid for him at the time. He's maybe worth near that now, I'd rather pay £18m for him - a player we need, with many years left in him - than GB

by **Owzat** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:27 am

s@int wrote:O'Neill wants Barry solution14:31, July 24, 2008
Currently 0/512345Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill has told suitors Liverpool he wants the Gareth Barry transfer impasse to end "one way or another".

Want-away England midfielder Barry has been left in limbo after Liverpool failed to improve on their last offer - believed to be in the region of £15million - and was made to run the gauntlet when he was met by over 3,500 angry Villa fans at Walsall on Tuesday.

"We haven't heard back from Liverpool for some time and we're not exactly sure where we all stand," O'Neill revealed to his official club website.

"When people say people are in limbo, I don't think that applies to anybody more than ourselves. We don't know whether to move forward or not with it.

"It's a long-running saga and I wouldn't mind it ending one way or another."

O'Neill says he is in the dark over Liverpool's intentions but would have no objection to Barry staying at Villa Park - and would have no qualms about playing him in Saturday's Intertoto Cup clash with Odense.

"My preference - and hopefully I'm speaking for a lot of Villa fans, if not all of them - is that we would like Gareth to stay at the football club," he added. "That would be great because it will be hard to replace him.

"But we're not sure where Liverpool stand now. It was never mentioned before about them needing to sell some players before they bought - that was never in the system at all. But seemingly it must be part of it."

I think O'Neill is starting to get worried now

Showing the signs, if reports he's also alluded to the same in two separate media interviews prior to this are also true.

Make the leprechaun sweat, it's obviously buggering up his transfer plans and maybe he's been spending money he doesn't have - or at least would like to spend that money.

You have to wonder if Rafa didn't want to have a smash n grab raid regards GB. Get the deal pushed through before the recent friendlies, but leprechaun scuppered that by being unavailable and more interested in BBCing it at the EUROs. Now Rafa's concentrating on something else for the timebeing and the table's are turned, the boots on the other foot with villa now being the ones made to wait for an answer.

I agree Saint, if they get £18m then they will be very happy. They'll probably try and land a decent striker and CB, we should be spending the money on trying to get a decent striker or winger

by **LFC_fan** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:53 am

O'Neill ready to set deadline for Barry transfer

Liverpool must decide whether to make a renewed bid for Aston Villa captain Gareth Barry after Martin O'Neill warned he is ready to set a deadline for them to meet his valuation.

Villa boss O'Neill claims he has heard nothing from the Merseyside giants since rejecting a fourth offer for the England midfielder earlier this month.

It is unclear whether Liverpool are waiting for Villa to make the next move or if their interest has cooled, with reports suggesting they cannot afford to buy both Barry and Tottenham skipper Robbie Keane, who is their primary striking target.

O'Neill is demanding £18million for Barry, with Keane likely to cost at least that much.

The impasse has prompted the Villa boss to urge Liverpool to clarify their position.

The former Celtic boss is aware he has to make his own plans for the new campaign and needs to know whether he will have the services of Barry.

Already O'Neill is considering using the 27-year-old in Saturday's home Intertoto Cup clash with Odense BK.

But that would not make Barry ineligible to play Champions League football if he eventually moved to Anfield.

O'Neill said: 'It's been unfortunate. We don't know where we stand at this minute.

'Liverpool have not officially come back to us in any form of writing. It is a really awkward position here at this minute.

'At some stage or other there will have to be a timescale on it because we cannot just keep going on like this.

'We have got our own plans to make - and we shouldn't be at the behest of Liverpool Football Club.

'We have to pick up the pieces and I could go on for forever and a day talking about it. It doesn't really matter. We have to see what develops.

'As I say, we have not heard back from them in an official capacity.'

O'Neill is ready to consider Barry on Saturday even though he was the target of abuse from Villa fans during Tuesday's friendly at Walsall.

He said: 'If Gareth is in the right frame of mind then we will explore everything. He will be in contention for Saturday.

'I have never not been impressed with him in two years as to his attitude on the football pitch.

'In fairness, the Intertoto gives us that chance to get into the UEFA Cup, which we set out to get into by one way or another, and Gareth was a major part of that last year.'

O'Neill, who is hoping to complete the signing of Blackburn goalkeeper Brad Friedel, is aware of the need to bring in new blood with the start of the Barclays Premier League campaign only three weeks away.

He said: 'We've lost experienced players like Olof Mellberg and we have to replace them.

'While I am very, very pleased with some of the young players coming through the ranks at Villa, for us to be competing again we need to be competing immediately, as soon as the Premier League season kicks off.

'From day one, that is our aim.'

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