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Emerald Red wrote:

The Kid Torres wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

How it amuses me when people with a different opinion to that of others insist that those that don't agree with his or her opinion knows nothing about the game.

In my opinion, Kuyt was garbage. He may run around a lot but so could Roger Black. He's of little threat to quality opposition and therefore defenders simply don't need to man mark him, which if they did would create space for others.

His first touch was woeful, he lost the ball every time he had it and his lack of pace is embaressing for a player currently deployed on the wing.

How was he garbage? From what I seen of him, all our attacking momentum was built from most of his play. He held the line well and linked up well with the mid-field. This system (with Kuyt) has been proving successful lately. Like I said, the sending off f*cked our shape. We'd no plan B.

Emerald Red wrote:

The Kid Torres wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

How it amuses me when people with a different opinion to that of others insist that those that don't agree with his or her opinion knows nothing about the game.

In my opinion, Kuyt was garbage. He may run around a lot but so could Roger Black. He's of little threat to quality opposition and therefore defenders simply don't need to man mark him, which if they did would create space for others.

His first touch was woeful, he lost the ball every time he had it and his lack of pace is embaressing for a player currently deployed on the wing.

How was he garbage? From what I seen of him, all our attacking momentum was built from most of his play. He held the line well and linked up well with the mid-field. This system (with Kuyt) has been proving successful lately. Like I said, the sending off f*cked our shape. We'd no plan B.

7_Kewell wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

we weren't good enough BEFORE the sending off and we struggled after. We were never going to win today.  Gerrard was off form, Alonso didn't perform and Reina was all over the place.

What makes you think that? We played some good stuff and got behind them a few times. We were causing them problems and were the better team up until the sending off. We were unlucky to concede, and how the match went on longer with us still having our shape and 11 men, then I do feel we'd have at least drawn if not won.

we were doing ok?

  We were LOSING 1-0....we hadn't had a shot on target, the scum had hit the post and forced several saves and Reina was throwing the ball to the opposition.  We weren't the better team and even with 11 men we were always going to lose today.  Just be thanksful it was only 3-0....

bavlondon wrote:

RedBlood wrote:

bavlondon wrote:I called it 3-1 to them before the game so i wasnt far off. I honestly cant believe how most on here were actually deluded enough to think we could come away with a win. We barley created a clear cut chance at Anfield yet you lot thought we would "nick it" here today lol:laugh:

Reina was at fault for the the first 2 and Masch should know better than to go after the ref once your already on a yellow. Rafa must hve been fuming for him to actually restrain Masch himself.

Anyway not that it mattered as we were f.ucking . Gerrard went awol as did Carra. Torres was the only one who played well but 1 player cant make a difference against a team like Man Utd. 7 wins in a row whoopdifuc.kingdooda, those were teams anyway we should have beat them.

I hope you all saw today the gaping difference between us and them. They have class and quality in all areas of the game where as we probabaly have only 2 players who could get into their team. Until we get some serious money to make this team better we will just have to be content with singing "we won it 5 times".

F.cuking disgrace thats all I can say.

i think more then 2 of our players could get into their team mate, but i have to agree overall they are a better side

Ok maybe 3 - Gerrard, Torres and Reina. Everyone else is 2nd choice. Where as probabaly every Utd player could walk into our side.

We are still just a 4th place team and its a joke.

i would only take 2 tevez and ronaldo , rio is and torres nearly had hi, and vidic both today , unlucky as he was ganged by a thrid defender on 2 ocassions

stmichael wrote:Why the f#ck does Babel always get subbed (even when he's our best player)?

probably becuase he doesn't do the same special things for Rafa as Kuyt does   

In all seriousness it's getting beyond a joke now and I think Kuyt must have some voodoo/jedi mind trick on Rafa, either that or Rafa is just a sh1t manager, hmmmmm 

Emerald Red wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

we weren't good enough BEFORE the sending off and we struggled after. We were never going to win today.  Gerrard was off form, Alonso didn't perform and Reina was all over the place.

What makes you think that? We played some good stuff and got behind them a few times. We were causing them problems and were the better team up until the sending off. We were unlucky to concede, and how the match went on longer with us still having our shape and 11 men, then I do feel we'd have at least drawn if not won.

we were doing ok?

  We were LOSING 1-0....we hadn't had a shot on target, the scum had hit the post and forced several saves and Reina was throwing the ball to the opposition.  We weren't the better team and even with 11 men we were always going to lose today.  Just be thanksful it was only 3-0....

Aye, we were doing OK. At least capable of getting in behind them.  We were causing them some trouble at the back. And even at 1-0, with 11 men, the game was salvageable. The sending off killed us.

bavlondon wrote:Ill tell you another thing. We may have got past Inter but lets not kid ourselves we were gifted by the sendings for against Inter. Against Arsenal I predict a thrashing. (for us)

Toffeehater wrote:

hijjawi wrote::: Goals ::

1-0 W.Brown (Min 34)
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2-0 C.Ronaldo (Min 80)
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3-0 Nani (Min 81)
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:: Extras ::

Rooney One On One Chance (Min 6)
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C.Ronaldo Chance Hits The Post (Min 24)
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Gerrard Shoot (Min 26)
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Giggs  Shoot (Min 32)
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Mascherano Red Card (Min 44)
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C.Ronaldo Free Kick (Min 54)
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Rooney Chance (Min 56)
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Tevez Chance (Min 74)
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will u feck off already , no one wants to see the goals 

7_Kewell wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

7_Kewell wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

maypaxvobiscum wrote:formation didnt work this time. but i think the sending off is the reason as it left a huge hole in the middle. alonso wasnt good enough to deal with it. and gerrard looked lost.

The system was working. And working well. The sending off ruined us.

And people slating Kuyt in this game are completely clueless about football. He was making some great runs, intelligent link-up play, and worked his socks off as usual. He was our pivotal player up until the sending off.

we weren't good enough BEFORE the sending off and we struggled after. We were never going to win today.  Gerrard was off form, Alonso didn't perform and Reina was all over the place.

What makes you think that? We played some good stuff and got behind them a few times. We were causing them problems and were the better team up until the sending off. We were unlucky to concede, and how the match went on longer with us still having our shape and 11 men, then I do feel we'd have at least drawn if not won.

we were doing ok?

  We were LOSING 1-0....we hadn't had a shot on target, the scum had hit the post and forced several saves and Reina was throwing the ball to the opposition.  We weren't the better team and even with 11 men we were always going to lose today.  Just be thanksful it was only 3-0....

Aye, we were doing OK. At least capable of getting in behind them.  We were causing them some trouble at the back. And even at 1-0, with 11 men, the game was salvageable. The sending off killed us.

maybe, but i don't share your optimism.  In my opinion we were treading water before MAsch was sent off.  We had a decent 15 mins in the 2nd half but we're a LONG way off from having a squad as good as the scum.

amazing how i started this whole convo and played no part in it. just like how liverpool performed today. 

Toffeehater wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

RedBlood wrote:

bavlondon wrote:I called it 3-1 to them before the game so i wasnt far off. I honestly cant believe how most on here were actually deluded enough to think we could come away with a win. We barley created a clear cut chance at Anfield yet you lot thought we would "nick it" here today lol:laugh:

Reina was at fault for the the first 2 and Masch should know better than to go after the ref once your already on a yellow. Rafa must hve been fuming for him to actually restrain Masch himself.

Anyway not that it mattered as we were f.ucking . Gerrard went awol as did Carra. Torres was the only one who played well but 1 player cant make a difference against a team like Man Utd. 7 wins in a row whoopdifuc.kingdooda, those were teams anyway we should have beat them.

I hope you all saw today the gaping difference between us and them. They have class and quality in all areas of the game where as we probabaly have only 2 players who could get into their team. Until we get some serious money to make this team better we will just have to be content with singing "we won it 5 times".

F.cuking disgrace thats all I can say.

i think more then 2 of our players could get into their team mate, but i have to agree overall they are a better side

Ok maybe 3 - Gerrard, Torres and Reina. Everyone else is 2nd choice. Where as probabaly every Utd player could walk into our side.

We are still just a 4th place team and its a joke.

i would only take 2 tevez and ronaldo , rio is and torres nearly had hi, and vidic both today , unlucky as he was ganged by a thrid defender on 2 ocassions

I would have the whole Man Utd team if it wasn't for the fact that I hate them all so much 

The only Liverpool players who would be competing for a spot would be Masha, after anger management classes, Gerrard and Torres.

heimdall wrote:Exactly, I actually agree with you, well not about your love in with Kuyt of course, but about us not having a plan B

Emerald Red wrote:

heimdall wrote:Exactly, I actually agree with you, well not about your love in with Kuyt of course, but about us not having a plan B

Who said I love Kuyt? I've been an open critic of him in the past, but as I've said, Rafa is using him in an area now that gives the team balance, hence the change in the formation lately. He is getting the best out of what he has. Even though Pennant is a natural winger, he's not as intelligent of a footballer as Kuyt is, though that's not saying much. But still, Kuyt has been important for us in that position for our past run of form.