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by **f9Torres** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:04 pm

pablinho wrote:I wish you know Spanish and read objetive comments about Torres just here > http://www.marca.com/edicion....28.html

All non Atletico supporters affirms 30 million € + Luis Garcia is a overpaid movement, and as i told before all says Torres is the most overated player in the Spanish History.

Anyway Good luck for him, with or without Torres i want Liverpool winning tittles !

You can tell me how many forwards have scored at least 13 goals every season in 5 years.

by **pablinho** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:07 pm

f9Torres wrote:
pablinho wrote:I wish you know Spanish and read objetive comments about Torres just here > http://www.marca.com/edicion....28.html

All non Atletico supporters affirms 30 million € + Luis Garcia is a overpaid movement, and as i told before all says Torres is the most overated player in the Spanish History.

Anyway Good luck for him, with or without Torres i want Liverpool winning tittles !

You can tell me how many forwards have scored at least 13 goals every season in 5 years.

i m not saying Torres is a bad player, 13 goals / season is not bad, but you should remember he is playing 38 games each season playing 95 % minutes, without play in Europe competitions, being the dude shooting all the penalties.

I remark this, Torres is a good player, but he is not worth 30 million €. Overrated

Salutes

by **f9Torres** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:10 pm

maguskwt wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
matrix wrote:
f9Torres wrote:Well, this is one of the worse days in mi life, i thought Torres ever would play for my team, but i hope te bigger succes in his new team. In few days i will buy his new t-shirt, and the next year, i will see all the matches.

cheers for that, to say your still going to watch torres next season, speaks volumes of your love for torres...

like ciggy said, he will be looked after by a special club...

we know how you feel mate, losing owen was devastating...

we lost the only player who could score us a shi.t load of goals, hopefully torres will bring back what we have missed...

I feel this becaue when we were in Second Division 7 years ago, a boy appeared and he obtained to deceive us, in the worse moment of our history. This year the team has been mediocre, and every summer Torres had offers of the best teams of Europe. He did not want negociate. He always said he did not play ever in Real Madrid, and in my country, this made that a lot of people hated him. He is our symbol, a player who is the image of a fan, he feel that colours, red and white, and this shield, like me. Now, I hope the best for him, what is the best for Liverpool. Enjoy it. I will wait him with the door open. I always liked LFC, since today, I am a supporter. Come on reds.

EDIT: I supose yuo have seen a lot of videos about Torres. This is one of the best, very complete: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

well even though you lost your favourite player, which is devastating i know, i think that you can feel a bit better from the fact that AM did a very good deal... and also you've got forlan and garcia now... really something to ease the pain and look forward to...

by the way they say that the garcia deal and torres deal are not officially linked... but what's the difference? i think that they just say that so as to not make it appear they got less money for torres than the buy-out clause (which it would have looked like if it's a player + cash deal)...

My opinion is that our directive never can negociate with another team to sale Torres. Only if Torres say in public that he wants go out, never before. And it is a verguenza that the clause the last year was 90 million € and this year is only 40 €. This is an invitation to other teams to sign him. I understand Torres, I will not pardon to the directive never.

by **f9Torres** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:14 pm

pablinho wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
pablinho wrote:I wish you know Spanish and read objetive comments about Torres just here > http://www.marca.com/edicion....28.html

All non Atletico supporters affirms 30 million € + Luis Garcia is a overpaid movement, and as i told before all says Torres is the most overated player in the Spanish History.

Anyway Good luck for him, with or without Torres i want Liverpool winning tittles !

You can tell me how many forwards have scored at least 13 goals every season in 5 years.

i m not saying Torres is a bad player, 13 goals / season is not bad, but you should remember he is playing 38 games each season playing 95 % minutes, without play in Europe competitions, being the dude shooting all the penalties.

I remark this, Torres is a good player, but he is not worth 30 million €. Overrated

Salutes

Villa in four season in Primera Division only in one season has scored more goals than Torres, only one. Samuel Eto'o when he palyed in a mid level team, he scored an average oh 13 goals for season, Torres 15. Villa shoot all the penalties too. But well, this excuses only are used with Torres.

by **Sabre** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:19 pm

FWIW Vergüenza=shame.

Look F9Torres, I'm a LFC fan but also a Real Sociedad season ticket holder and I know well your club. I'm old enough to remember the 1987 cup final against you.

Something is changing in Atletico for good so if I were you, I'd give the board a chance.

Jesus Gil, a funny man (let's be generous with the dead people) that no doubt, loved his club big time, did little good to Atletico de Madrid. Everytime a season wasn't as expected, he started a whole new project (The 14th proyecto of Jesus Gil) with 5 or 6 big signings.

I was afraid that a good coach like Aguirre wasn't going to be given the required time to sort things out in the Manzanares river camp.

But for once, it seems that the board is giving the men of football the time and the decission power they need, and only for that, you have to be optimistic.

The greatest time of Atletico, the times in which you were year in year out the third team of Spain at the least haven't been under the Torres era. IMHO you've been giving little time to coaches and trying to find the proper companion for Torres instead of gelling together a good team. That's what Aguirre seems to be doing now, and FFS, give him time and he'll bring you success, no fúcking doubt about it.

I understand it's a big temptation to charge against the club now Torres has been sold. But make no mistake, a release clause isn't lowered if the player doesn't demand it and it seems quite obvious Torres demanded so in order to stay in the past. Now you've received an indecent amount of money that if you use well you can strenghten the squad and have a big chance of making serious things next year.

Atletico Madrid hasn't been in Europe since the last time you eliminated RS in the UEFA quarter or 1/16th of finals and that's too much time. Now the board seems to have given Aguirre more time, and believe me, that's what you needed not more signings.

Cheer up colchonero

by **puroresu** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:31 pm

the way people are talking, anyone would think Atletico only had Torres and everyone else was average. Atletico have had quality players but for some reason they don't do it as a team.

Maxi Rodriguez, Sergio Aguero, Perea, Martin Petrov, Maniche are all very good players.

side note: Is it true Atletico are getting Quaresma? what a great signing..

by **f9Torres** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:32 pm

Well Sabre, this is your opinion and i respect that. But the arrival of Jesus Gil and his son later, is the worse in the history club. You only have to see than before 1987, or 1992 when he had all the control because he buy all the actions (with money of the club), and them he stolen to the club more than once, Before of this, my team always was between the best, every year we played in Europe. This was a desaster, and a lot of people don´t see that, or don`t want to see. And the press doesn`t say nothing of this situacton.

About the release clause, the directive offered that to Torres, and he obiously accepted, but he dindn´t demanded that to continue in the team. Before of that he refused to the Inter and Manchester.

I can not be optimist while the club is under the power of two swindlers. Now they have sold Torres, the netx is sold Vicente Calderon, our house, to pay the debts that they have created.

by **f9Torres** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:37 pm

puroresu wrote:the way people are talking, anyone would think Atletico only had Torres and everyone else was average. Atletico have had quality players but for some reason they don't do it as a team.

Maxi Rodriguez, Sergio Aguero, Perea, Martin Petrov, Maniche are all very good players.

Well, but in my team always want to have a player who play with the same feelings that me or other fan. This is an "extra" for him. I Know that the world not finish here, but now, i am depressed. I ever thought that Torres will play forever in Atletico.

P.D. What is the meaning of IMO or IHMO?¿?

by **Pablito** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:39 pm

I have no doubt: Fernando Torres is a overrated player.
I hope that in Liverpool he would be better that Atletico de Madrid.

by **puroresu** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:40 pm

sell torres for £27 mil and get Forlan and possibly Queresema. Not a bad bit of business for me.

by **Igor Zidane** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:42 pm

f9Torres wrote:
puroresu wrote:the way people are talking, anyone would think Atletico only had Torres and everyone else was average. Atletico have had quality players but for some reason they don't do it as a team.

Maxi Rodriguez, Sergio Aguero, Perea, Martin Petrov, Maniche are all very good players.

Well, but in my team always want to have a player who play with the same feelings that me or other fan. This is an "extra" for him. I Know that the world not finish here, but now, i am depressed. I ever thought that Torres will play forever in Atletico.

P.D. What is the meaning of IMO or IHMO?¿?

IMO= In my opinion
IMHO=In my humble opinion.

by **f9Torres** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:43 pm

puroresu wrote:sell torres for £27 mil and get Forlan and possibly Queresema. Not a bad bit of business for me.

Quaresma will not be a player of Atletico de Madrid. And now, if i tell you, sell Gerrard and buy Obi Mikel and Robben, what do you tell my?

by **pablinho** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:47 pm

f9Torres wrote:
pablinho wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
pablinho wrote:I wish you know Spanish and read objetive comments about Torres just here > http://www.marca.com/edicion....28.html

All non Atletico supporters affirms 30 million € + Luis Garcia is a overpaid movement, and as i told before all says Torres is the most overated player in the Spanish History.

Anyway Good luck for him, with or without Torres i want Liverpool winning tittles !

You can tell me how many forwards have scored at least 13 goals every season in 5 years.

i m not saying Torres is a bad player, 13 goals / season is not bad, but you should remember he is playing 38 games each season playing 95 % minutes, without play in Europe competitions, being the dude shooting all the penalties.

I remark this, Torres is a good player, but he is not worth 30 million €. Overrated

Salutes

Villa in four season in Primera Division only in one season has scored more goals than Torres, only one. Samuel Eto'o when he palyed in a mid level team, he scored an average oh 13 goals for season, Torres 15. Villa shoot all the penalties too. But well, this excuses only are used with Torres.

Yes in La Liga Villa only scored 1 goal more than Torres but ....

You forget some things about Villa:

1. Villa has been the best forward with assists

2. Villa scored 6-7 goals in Champions league

3. Villa played this season 2 competitions

4. Villa is by far the best spanish striker atm

by **f9Torres** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:47 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
puroresu wrote:the way people are talking, anyone would think Atletico only had Torres and everyone else was average. Atletico have had quality players but for some reason they don't do it as a team.

Maxi Rodriguez, Sergio Aguero, Perea, Martin Petrov, Maniche are all very good players.

Well, but in my team always want to have a player who play with the same feelings that me or other fan. This is an "extra" for him. I Know that the world not finish here, but now, i am depressed. I ever thought that Torres will play forever in Atletico.

P.D. What is the meaning of IMO or IHMO?¿?

IMO= In my opinion
IMHO=In my humble opinion.

Thank you very much, i have to learn a lot.

by **puroresu** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:51 pm

f9Torres wrote:
puroresu wrote:sell torres for £27 mil and get Forlan and possibly Queresema. Not a bad bit of business for me.

Quaresma will not be a player of Atletico de Madrid. And now, if i tell you, sell Gerrard and buy Obi Mikel and Robben, what do you tell my?

I not saying you should sell although if the player wants out what can you do? I was just pointing out that getting Forlan and Queresema after losing Torres is good business.

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