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by **Ace Ventura** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:16 pm

Anyone heard anything more on the proposed transfer of Kuyt ?
Me mate has just sent me an email saying that we are getting him for 6 million with Dudek and Kromkamp going the other way....he reckons that his mates ald fella told him.

by **puroresu** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:30 pm

Big Niall wrote:As I said in another thread he is terrible. As mobile and deadly as Heskey with the impressive goal tally in a cr*P league like Cisse.

Has anyone seen him to well against top opposition. He really looks second rate to me.

Yep and the so called great Prem league has seen Marcus Stewart, James Beattie, Darren Bent, Andy Johnson etc score goals.

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:59 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:Anyone heard anything more on the proposed transfer of Kuyt ?
Me mate has just sent me an email saying that we are getting him for 6 million with Dudek and Kromkamp going the other way....he reckons that his mates ald fella told him.

The Echo seems to be saying that any bid for Kuyt will depend on whether the Alves deal happens. If it does, then, buying Kuyt will only be feasible if we sell some squad players to raise funds for that transfer fee. As such, the Kuyt deal, if it happens at all, might not go forward until later in the summer.

by **Ace Ventura** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:17 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Anyone heard anything more on the proposed transfer of Kuyt ?
Me mate has just sent me an email saying that we are getting him for 6 million with Dudek and Kromkamp going the other way....he reckons that his mates ald fella told him.

The Echo seems to be saying that any bid for Kuyt will depend on whether the Alves deal happens. If it does, then, buying Kuyt will only be feasible if we sell some squad players to raise funds for that transfer fee. As such, the Kuyt deal, if it happens at all, might not go forward until later in the summer.

Dya reckon thats a load of b@llocks then what me mates heard ?

Tbh he comes out with bizarre so called scoops every now and then and not one has been right.
The last one was that Gary O'neill was signing in January on deadline day...so he is not too reliable

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:49 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Anyone heard anything more on the proposed transfer of Kuyt ?
Me mate has just sent me an email saying that we are getting him for 6 million with Dudek and Kromkamp going the other way....he reckons that his mates ald fella told him.

The Echo seems to be saying that any bid for Kuyt will depend on whether the Alves deal happens. If it does, then, buying Kuyt will only be feasible if we sell some squad players to raise funds for that transfer fee. As such, the Kuyt deal, if it happens at all, might not go forward until later in the summer.

Dya reckon thats a load of b@llocks then what me mates heard ?

Tbh he comes out with bizarre so called scoops every now and then and not one has been right.
The last one was that Gary O'neill was signing in January on deadline day...so he is not too reliable

Well, Welsh Wizzard is sure Alves is signing on Saturday with Aurelio so, whose talking more bollox, your mate or WW?

Actually, the two stories aren't incompatible. Perhaps a deal for Kuyt could happen quickly if it involved Dudek and Kromkamp going the other way. That would certainly solve some of the financial complications of offloading squad players and then using proceeds to secure the Kuyt transfer. Who knows!

by **RedWolf35** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:40 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Anyone heard anything more on the proposed transfer of Kuyt ?
Me mate has just sent me an email saying that we are getting him for 6 million with Dudek and Kromkamp going the other way....he reckons that his mates ald fella told him.

The Echo seems to be saying that any bid for Kuyt will depend on whether the Alves deal happens. If it does, then, buying Kuyt will only be feasible if we sell some squad players to raise funds for that transfer fee. As such, the Kuyt deal, if it happens at all, might not go forward until later in the summer.

Dya reckon thats a load of b@llocks then what me mates heard ?

Tbh he comes out with bizarre so called scoops every now and then and not one has been right.
The last one was that Gary O'neill was signing in January on deadline day...so he is not too reliable

Well, Welsh Wizzard is sure Alves is signing on Saturday with Aurelio so, whose talking more bollox, your mate or WW?

Actually, the two stories aren't incompatible. Perhaps a deal for Kuyt could happen quickly if it involved Dudek and Kromkamp going the other way. That would certainly solve some of the financial complications of offloading squad players and then using proceeds to secure the Kuyt transfer. Who knows!

welsh wizard hears voices so its not his fault if his predictions do not pan out!!!

by **-Taimur-** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:06 pm

Doubt it is tbh, Rafa would much oike to bring in a Rw first and then move for a striker if money is available.

by **Ciggy** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:39 am

According to the dutch Telegraph its saying he will sign for us today or tommorrow, there was more fuel put on the fire yesterday when he didnt show up for the team photo for this season.
And he will only leave Feyenoord for CL football.
Could get interesting the next few days .
If Feyenoord wont accept our bid then Rafa will look to taking Trezeguet on loan.

18-07-2006 - Liverpool wil vandaag of morgen Kuyt presenteren als aankoop
Bron: Telegraaf
Liverpool hoopt vandaag of morgen Dirk Kuyt te kunnen presenteren als aankoop. Lukt het niet dan dreigt de club de interesse te verleggen naar Juventus-aanvaller David Trezeguet, die voor een jaar gehuurd kan worden. Volgens de Engelse krant Daily Mail is dit het scenario wat zich komende dagen af gaat spelen. Opvallend genoeg ontbrak Feyenoords boegbeeld Kuyt gisteren bij het nemen van de traditionele elftalfoto van de Rotterdammers voor komend seizoen. Erik Nevland van FC Groningen is bij een vertrek van Kuyt eerste keus om de spitspositie in De Kuip te bezetten.
Met Trezeguet achter de hand hoopt Liverpool Feyenoord te overtuigen om Kuyt voor 12 miljoen euro te verkopen. Hoewel Kuyt naar verluidt een gelimiteerde transfersom van 15 miljoen euro in zijn tot 2009 doorlopende contract heeft staan, zegt Liverpool dat de Rotterdammers 20 miljoen euro vragen voor de spits. Feyenoord gaf al eens aan Kuyt absoluut niet kwijt te willen en dat alternatieven om het verlies op te vangen nauwelijks voorhanden zijn of onbetaalbaar.

Volgens de Engelsen is 15 miljoen en zeker 20 miljoen veel te veel voor Kuyt, waarbij wordt benadrukt dat Kuyt geen vaste international is en nog geen minuut in de Champions League heeft gespeeld. Overigens bood Liverpool eerder acht tot tien miljoen euro met daarbij Jan Kromkamp en Jurek Dudek. Onbespreekbaar voor Feyenoord, dat de tering naar de nering moet zetten en vooral verlegen zit om geld. Eerder al kon trainer Erwin Koeman niet het volledige bedrag investeren, wat Feyenoord kreeg van Chelsea voor Salomon Kalou.

Kuyt zelf wil dolgraag naar Liverpool en zou in Engeland zo'n 1.6 tot 1.7 miljoen euro kunnen gaan verdienen. Hij heeft op het WK nogmaals ervaren dat hij persoonlijk bij Feyenoord stil staat in zn' ontwikkeling en zo snel mogelijk de stap moet maken naar een club, die meedoet om de Champions League. Feyenoord heeft altijd gezegd mee te zullen werken als Kuyts droomclub langs zou komen. Komt het niet tot een transfer en meldt Kuyt zich volgende maandag bij Feyenoord dan, zo heeft hij afgesproken met de club, plakt hij er nog een seizoen aan vast in De Kuip.

by **tubby** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:38 am

Ciggy wrote:According to the dutch Telegraph its saying he will sign for us today or tommorrow, there was more fuel put on the fire yesterday when he didnt show up for the team photo for this season.
And he will only leave Feyenoord for CL football.
Could get interesting the next few days .
If Feyenoord wont accept our bid then Rafa will look to taking Trezeguet on loan.

18-07-2006 - Liverpool wil vandaag of morgen Kuyt presenteren als aankoop
Bron: Telegraaf
Liverpool hoopt vandaag of morgen Dirk Kuyt te kunnen presenteren als aankoop. Lukt het niet dan dreigt de club de interesse te verleggen naar Juventus-aanvaller David Trezeguet, die voor een jaar gehuurd kan worden. Volgens de Engelse krant Daily Mail is dit het scenario wat zich komende dagen af gaat spelen. Opvallend genoeg ontbrak Feyenoords boegbeeld Kuyt gisteren bij het nemen van de traditionele elftalfoto van de Rotterdammers voor komend seizoen. Erik Nevland van FC Groningen is bij een vertrek van Kuyt eerste keus om de spitspositie in De Kuip te bezetten.
Met Trezeguet achter de hand hoopt Liverpool Feyenoord te overtuigen om Kuyt voor 12 miljoen euro te verkopen. Hoewel Kuyt naar verluidt een gelimiteerde transfersom van 15 miljoen euro in zijn tot 2009 doorlopende contract heeft staan, zegt Liverpool dat de Rotterdammers 20 miljoen euro vragen voor de spits. Feyenoord gaf al eens aan Kuyt absoluut niet kwijt te willen en dat alternatieven om het verlies op te vangen nauwelijks voorhanden zijn of onbetaalbaar.

Volgens de Engelsen is 15 miljoen en zeker 20 miljoen veel te veel voor Kuyt, waarbij wordt benadrukt dat Kuyt geen vaste international is en nog geen minuut in de Champions League heeft gespeeld. Overigens bood Liverpool eerder acht tot tien miljoen euro met daarbij Jan Kromkamp en Jurek Dudek. Onbespreekbaar voor Feyenoord, dat de tering naar de nering moet zetten en vooral verlegen zit om geld. Eerder al kon trainer Erwin Koeman niet het volledige bedrag investeren, wat Feyenoord kreeg van Chelsea voor Salomon Kalou.

Kuyt zelf wil dolgraag naar Liverpool en zou in Engeland zo'n 1.6 tot 1.7 miljoen euro kunnen gaan verdienen. Hij heeft op het WK nogmaals ervaren dat hij persoonlijk bij Feyenoord stil staat in zn' ontwikkeling en zo snel mogelijk de stap moet maken naar een club, die meedoet om de Champions League. Feyenoord heeft altijd gezegd mee te zullen werken als Kuyts droomclub langs zou komen. Komt het niet tot een transfer en meldt Kuyt zich volgende maandag bij Feyenoord dan, zo heeft hij afgesproken met de club, plakt hij er nog een seizoen aan vast in De Kuip.

Great find CGGY!

Will be an interesting few days indeed. Im hoping that we will have announced at least 1 more signing by the weekend.

by **flipmode** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:18 am

http://home.skysports.com/transferarticle.aspx?hlid=Transfers_-_Tabloid_Talk

Apparantly he is to be unveiled in the next 48 hours

by **Anfield rapper** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:23 am

kobashi wrote:Kuyt is a good player. Dont judge him on the WC. I fear if it was a choice between us and Arsenal he would choose Arsenal. 1. London, 2. Van Persie and Bergkamp will tell him to go Arsenal.

We have to judge him on the world cup. He could have signed for us before the WC, but decided to try and leave it till after the WC so if he did well he could ask for higher wages. That has more than backfired to me. I thought he was awful. The standard of the teams they played (Argentina, Portugal, Ivory Coast) was better than the dutch league and i don't think he played well against any of them. There is a big chance he wouldn't cut it in the Prem.

by **stmichael** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:16 am

I have also read that Kuyt apparently has an escape clause in his contract of £10.3m.

That bit about the escape clause makes me question the credibility of the story. If there was an escape clause, LFC would know because Benitez has been talking with Kuyt's agent for over 12 months. I think the agent may just have mentioned a little thing like that, don't you? The rest of the article seems plausible enough, but time will tell.

by **gary106** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:32 am

i really hope we dont sign him and waste what money we have available. his world cup performances were very very poor for all to see. shows that when he comes up against decent opposition he cant hack it.

IF we do sign him then i hope im proved wrong and made to look stupid, i just hope we dont sign him in the first place. :cool:

by **stmichael** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:00 pm

gary106 wrote:i really hope we dont sign him and waste what money we have available. his world cup performances were very very poor for all to see. shows that when he comes up against decent opposition he cant hack it.

by that token, lets get rid of gerrard. he had a poor world cup which proves he can't hack it against the very best?

get a grip. you can't judge a player on a handful of world cup performances, when he was played out of position the majority of the time.

by **48-1119859832** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:00 pm

gary106 wrote:i really hope we dont sign him and waste what money we have available. his world cup performances were very very poor for all to see. shows that when he comes up against decent opposition he cant hack it.

IF we do sign him then i hope im proved wrong and made to look stupid, i just hope we dont sign him in the first place.

He was played out of position in a few games. My problem with him is he goes down far too easily. A small tug on his shirt or arm and a little barge and he's flying onto the floor. I have listened to the ppl who have watched Kuyt and he has got mixed responses from different ppl, so I will try and watch some past matches of his to see if he is any good. But as you say he didn't play well at all in the World Cup, but then neither did Ronaldinho or Gerrard doesn't mean to say they are shockingly poor players. World Cup's can make a player of Titus Brambles quality look world beaters.

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