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by **Ciggy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:44 am

Liverpool striker Djibril Cisse is hoping rumours over his future will finally end.

Cisse was Liverpool's match-winner in the 1-0 victory over Blackburn on his return to the starting line-up.

In the build-up to the game Cisse's future was the subject of intense debate with reports suggesting the Frenchman would seek to move on in January if he was not playing regularly.

Cisse made a point of showing he had no problems with Rafa Benitez, as has been suggested, by celebrating his goal with the Spaniard.

"I ran across to shake hands with the boss as a small message to show everyone there was no problem between me and the manager," said Cisse.

"I wanted to show to the fans that we have a normal relationship.

"The most important thing was the three points because we are not in a good position. I really just want all the speculation to stop now about problems between me and the coach and me and the club. I am happy to stay here - why should I want to leave?

"You could see the fans' reaction to me. You won't find fans like that anywhere in the world, so I don't know why people say I want to leave. I want it all to stop and for me to work for the club.

"The best way is to carry on scoring goals, I have had a good season so far with goals, but we need points because we can't stay in positions like 12 and 13.

"When I came back from France we just spoke normally as player and coach, and did not talk about what has been said. There are more important things to talk about."

Cisse was also happy to ram the taunts of the Blackburn fans down their throats after scoring the winner.

The former Auxerre suffered his career-threatening leg injury against Blackburn last year and the visiting fans taunted the Frenchman about the injury throughout the game at Anfield.

Cisse was delighted to have the final word by scoring the only goal of the game.

"They were singing `Cisse how's the leg'. I was angry after that and I just wanted to score because of those stupid fans," added Cisse.

"And I want to say `thank you' to the Liverpool fans for supporting me after that.

"The goal was important to me because I broke my leg badly at Blackburn last season, I am pleased with the goals I have been scoring and have no problem with the coach."

I am a big fan of Djibril, he has possibly just gone through the worst year of his life, his dream move to Liverpool then gets that dreadful injury nearly losing his leg.
Then MO realises he made a mistake going to Real Madrid and wants to come home, being a Liverpool favourite of course most fans would have wanted him back, but because Rafa had to buy Morientes due to Cisse's injury, there was no way Rafa was going to sell him.

Instead Rafa goes out to buy Crouch to replace Baros (which I didnt agree with) but thats my opinion.
Then Cisse gets touted in the shop window to fund the return of the prodical son.
Djibs must have been f*cking fumin I know I would if I was him.
He gets himself back months before he was due back to play for us, and that was the thanks he got, maybe more to do with Rick Parry than Rafa cause If I am honest I really dont think Rafa wanted MO back, you made your bed lie in it.

Then Big P gets a start ahead of Cisse in nearly every game we have played and Cisse our biggest buy to date gets stuck on the bench or on the wing to accomodate Crouchino.

Cisse is our leading goal scorer he is the only striker we have at the moment that looks anything like scoring, ok he misses a lot of sitters, but he can be forgiven.

Its not like he has had a run of 5-6 games upfront is it?
He needs a run upfront now, he will start banging them in for fun I am sure of it, ok he gets frustrated when things arnt going his way, but its better he gets frustrated than not giving a sh*t isnt it?

When MO came back from injury it used to take him around 6-7 games before he found the back of the net again, and Cisse's injury mentally and physically is nothing to a MO hamstring.

Get behind Djibril I think he's great I love him, and he will start to give us goals a plenty if he gets a run in his natural position.

And finally them Blackburn fans knock me sick with the chants they gave him on saturday, but then again there players are bad enough, they should be brought to court for impersonating footballers.

Djibs just needs to be loved thats all, he plays on confidence and when the chips are down so is Djib, lets hope he gets a run of games now and fires us to a few more tropheys this season.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:58 am

If he score again in the next match .... Rafa will keep him

by **bigmick** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:16 am

There is no doubt at all Lynds that at the moment Cisse looks like the most likely to score out of our misfiring forwards. Forget about the misses, he scored the winner on Saturday so as a goalscoring striker can look at himself in the mirror and say "I did my job". 0-0 becomes 1-0 and that's the whole point with Cisse, he scores goals and despite the inflated transfer fee we paid for him, his scoring record is not that bad for us.

One further point I would like to make from saturday concerns Fernando Morientes. There has been no more consistent or frequent critic on these board than me of Morientes and his contribution. I think he has been a desperately bad buy sofar and haven't been shy of saying it. From Saturday though, I am desperately hoping that Nando is about to turn the corner. On another day he could have scored a couple of goals, his movement was good but his finishing was lacking in confidence and poor. His desire to actually figure in the game though was a revelation.
If I was a betting man (and I am) and if I know anything at all (which I hope I do) then my prediction is that Morientes is about to catch fire. In doing so he will score regularly and ram my words up my erse. Nobody will be happier than me because if he can add a genuine goal threat to his undoubted quality and intelligence, then we may just have an absolutely top class striker on our hands.

by **darwisigila** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:26 am

cisse is a fighter...and i like that. i hope he will stay to prove his worth. so far i just don see the same cisse ( before he was injured). 'that' cisse was sharp, dangerous with the ball and very quick. right now, he playing with no brain

by **Ciggy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:27 am

I agree on Morientes Mick, saturday he got himself in some good positions for us to be hopeful for this season and he will get us goals.
However my biggest fear is Fernando is NOT happy about living in Liverpool, Liverpool does not have the same highlife and climate as Madrid or Monaco, I cant imagine his lovely Mrs or him being happy with the surrounding areas, I love Liverpool of course its my home town, I was born there its what I am used to.
But some parts are a dump ecspecially around Anfield, he hardly speaks english, its cold with the irish sea breeze

And the prem is much faster and rougher than Fernando has ever experienced.
These reasons all contribute to his poor form, and if I am honest and he is not a regular goal scorer for us this season, I can see him gone at the end of the season.

I hope he proves me wrong and finds his form and we see the world class Morientes that we know he's capable of then all of us will be over the moon.

And for the record I would like to see Cisse and Morientes given a run from now on and Crouch on the bench.

by **Espionage** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:37 am

^ Isnt our job as supporters to support ALL players of Liverpool?
I think that Crouch deserves a little bit more credit then you are giving him CGGY.
I expect to see Crouch/Cisse or Crouch/Morrientes. But i can see Crouch getting subbed lots in the second half like versus Blackburn

by **bigmick** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:48 am

I agree with Lynds here that on current form Cisse and Morientes is a must. It's all confidence and Cisse's must be up after his goal and Morientes's isn't low yet because he's only just come back. Crouch has done well in my view but a little spell on the bench for evaluation wouldn't do any harm. He's a good player and those who write him off would do well to remember Diego Forlorn, zero to hero given a chance and confidence.
As for Morientes, though I accept your report that he's not too happy in Liverpool the city Lynds this would surley change with a couple of goals and a bit of love from ther stands. I'm very confident he's about to turn the corner and when he does he'll probably have a lot more time for his missus aswell. To use rafa's phraseiology, this should give her a "better mentality" aswell and sort her out, so to speak.

by **Ciggy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:53 am

Espionage wrote:^ Isnt our job as supporters to support ALL players of Liverpool?
I think that Crouch deserves a little bit more credit then you are giving him CGGY.
I expect to see Crouch/Cisse or Crouch/Morrientes. But i can see Crouch getting subbed lots in the second half like versus Blackburn

Look none of us where sure about the Crouch transfer, his 7 million pound price tag to say the least, Arry ripped us off IMHO Kevin Phillips went to Aston Villa for 1 million, and we had to pay 7 for Crouch.
He was realeased from QPR, Spurs, Aston Villa, Chelsea didnt keep him he was there when he was younger, and then Southampton sold him to us ok Arry wanted to keep him.

I just feel that if he was/is real quality he would NOT have been realeased from so many club as easy as he has been in his career.

When he scored 16 goals last season for the Saints they where fighting relegation, and he was playing out of his skin to keep them up.

He is a hell of a nice fella not your stereotypical footballer, and the taunts and jibes he has been recievening from the press and the England fans are unwarranted.
He is a good target man, but I cannot see him getting more than 10 goals a season for us, and as we need goals and points, I feel he needs a strike partner in every game, for atleast 5-6 games.

Till now he's had more strike partners than Jody Marsh has had men, he needs to have a suitable partner upfront for him to improve his game, right now there has been to much squad rotation, and none of the players know where their team mates are at the moment.

by **kazza** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:39 am

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:his dream move to Liverpool then gets that dreadful injury nearly losing his leg.
Then MO realises he made a mistake going to Real Madrid and wants to come home, being a Liverpool favourite of course most fans would have wanted him back, but because Rafa had to buy Morientes due to Cisse's injury, there was no way Rafa was going to sell him.

Instead Rafa goes out to buy Crouch to replace Baros (which I didnt agree with) but thats my opinion.
Then Cisse gets touted in the shop window to fund the return of the prodical son.
Djibs must have been f*cking fumin I know I would if I was him.
He gets himself back months before he was due back to play for us, and that was the thanks he got, maybe more to do with Rick Parry than Rafa cause If I am honest I really dont think Rafa wanted MO back, you made your bed lie in it.

Then Big P gets a start ahead of Cisse in nearly every game we have played and Cisse our biggest buy to date gets stuck on the bench or on the wing to accomodate Crouchino.

Geez, it sounds like a soap opera.

I really hope Cisse can score us alot of goals but I am still not convinced he ia a Raffa type player. I think going to shake Raffa's hand after he scored was needless (Cisse is a bit of a drama queen), but it is great that it was Cisse that shut up those idiot Blackburn fans.

I tend to root for Cisse due to his history (broken leg and all) but his playing fustrates me. Bottom line however I would love Cisse to start banging in many goals.

by **kazza** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:53 am

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:
Espionage wrote:^ Isnt our job as supporters to support ALL players of Liverpool?
I think that Crouch deserves a little bit more credit then you are giving him CGGY.
I expect to see Crouch/Cisse or Crouch/Morrientes. But i can see Crouch getting subbed lots in the second half like versus Blackburn

Look none of us where sure about the Crouch transfer, his 7 million pound price tag to say the least, Arry ripped us off IMHO Kevin Phillips went to Aston Villa for 1 million, and we had to pay 7 for Crouch.
He was realeased from QPR, Spurs, Aston Villa, Chelsea didnt keep him he was there when he was younger, and then Southampton sold him to us ok Arry wanted to keep him.

I just feel that if he was/is real quality he would NOT have been realeased from so many club as easy as he has been in his career.

When he scored 16 goals last season for the Saints they where fighting relegation, and he was playing out of his skin to keep them up.

He is a hell of a nice fella not your stereotypical footballer, and the taunts and jibes he has been recievening from the press and the England fans are unwarranted.
He is a good target man, but I cannot see him getting more than 10 goals a season for us, and as we need goals and points, I feel he needs a strike partner in every game, for atleast 5-6 games.

Till now he's had more strike partners than Jody Marsh has had men, he needs to have a suitable partner upfront for him to improve his game, right now there has been to much squad rotation, and none of the players know where their team mates are at the moment.

I do not think it is a compare and contrast situation. I think Crouch is a very giving player and he will get more assists than goals (but those are as good as goals).

Where ever Crouch has gone he has been picked on by fans and press alike (generally called a freak, including English fans while playing for England, shamefull). Not right really, but I for one am happy with the effort he shows the team.

I think we are close to start scoring, if you think about it, apart from the Chelsea match we have dominated all matches we have played, we just could not score.

by **stmichael** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:58 am

bigmick wrote:I agree with Lynds here that on current form Cisse and Morientes is a must. It's all confidence and Cisse's must be up after his goal and Morientes's isn't low yet because he's only just come back. Crouch has done well in my view but a little spell on the bench for evaluation wouldn't do any harm. He's a good player and those who write him off would do well to remember Diego Forlorn, zero to hero given a chance and confidence.
As for Morientes, though I accept your report that he's not too happy in Liverpool the city Lynds this would surley change with a couple of goals and a bit of love from ther stands. I'm very confident he's about to turn the corner and when he does he'll probably have a lot more time for his missus aswell. To use rafa's phraseiology, this should give her a "better mentality" aswell and sort her out, so to speak.

I have said all along that Cisse and Morientes should be the first choice front two at home especially. Crouch should be used as an alternative in away games if we want to play one upfront.

The chances we had on Saturday were very nice, and should have been taken care of with ease when you consisder the quality of the two. There was one header in the first half which Cisse missed which Morientes would have buried to be honest. However, I still like the fact that they were both....

1) getting into promosing positions
2) encouraging proper service
3) eliminating the long ball tactic
4) seeing a lot of the ball

When Crouch is on, he barely ever gets a chance on goal. The midfielders seem almost reluctant to get the ball to him and as a result, opportunities are lacking big time. Therefore, I feel that if Cisse and Morientes were given a few more runs out together, they could be a strong force in front of goal. They've either been injured or disregarded for a period of time and they will regain their sharpness and confidence within no time at all. I can't believe that ppl seem to be unhappy with their performance.

I'm just glad that we looked like we were having a go once they were on together. Imagine how they will look when Gerrard is back. :nod

by **craig da Toxteth iron** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:36 pm

I agree with he can do it. He will stay for the long term and score more often

by **Alonso_Rulz** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:21 pm

i dun understand why some of u here is fu#king crouch.. come on, this guy really help liverpool alot in terms of holding the ball up there.. as u can see, the reason why he isn't scoring is becoz , our 5 midfield is too slow or too far away to join him in attack.. IMO, we really need his skills on holding the ball and heading in the top of the attack.. we just don't have strikers capable of wat he can do.. moro can't win headers as easy as crouch..
give that guy a break.. so wat if he doesn't score goals.. as long as the team plays well and win, who care who score the most.. i rather be like chelsea and win 1-0s.
crouch offers us alot of opinion but he realli needs a partner with him, be it cisse or moro...

by **115-1073096938** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:37 pm

I am a big fan of Djibril, he has possibly just gone through the worst year of his life, his dream move to Liverpool then gets that dreadful injury nearly losing his leg.
Then MO realises he made a mistake going to Real Madrid and wants to come home, being a Liverpool favourite of course most fans would have wanted him back, but because Rafa had to buy Morientes due to Cisse's injury, there was no way Rafa was going to sell him.

Instead Rafa goes out to buy Crouch to replace Baros (which I didnt agree with) but thats my opinion.
Then Cisse gets touted in the shop window to fund the return of the prodical son.
Djibs must have been f*cking fumin I know I would if I was him.
He gets himself back months before he was due back to play for us, and that was the thanks he got, maybe more to do with Rick Parry than Rafa cause If I am honest I really dont think Rafa wanted MO back, you made your bed lie in it.

Then Big P gets a start ahead of Cisse in nearly every game we have played and Cisse our biggest buy to date gets stuck on the bench or on the wing to accomodate Crouchino.

Cisse is our leading goal scorer he is the only striker we have at the moment that looks anything like scoring, ok he misses a lot of sitters, but he can be forgiven.

Its not like he has had a run of 5-6 games upfront is it?
He needs a run upfront now, he will start banging them in for fun I am sure of it, ok he gets frustrated when things arnt going his way, but its better he gets frustrated than not giving a sh*t isnt it?

When MO came back from injury it used to take him around 6-7 games before he found the back of the net again, and Cisse's injury mentally and physically is nothing to a MO hamstring.

Get behind Djibril I think he's great I love him, and he will start to give us goals a plenty if he gets a run in his natural position.

And finally them Blackburn fans knock me sick with the chants they gave him on saturday, but then again there players are bad enough, they should be brought to court for impersonating footballers.

Djibs just needs to be loved thats all, he plays on confidence and when the chips are down so is Djib, lets hope he gets a run of games now and fires us to a few more tropheys this season.

Rafa "had" to buy Morientes because Cisse was injured?

What planet are you from? He was trying to sign him all summer. Also, Cisse isn't good enough.

To be fair he is a bigger goal threat than Crouch but Crouch is 3 or 4 times a better footballer. Cisse is an extremely average player with exceptional pace. He is also a :censored:

and will not put chances away where he has to challenge centre halfs and put his head in where it hurts, he's not good enough.

Morientes on the other hand has all the class in the world. He is unbelievabley skillful, a superb finisher (when confident infront of goal), has a brain and can link up with other players.

He looked excellent against Blackburn with the exception of his finishing.

As for Cisse though, the lads a waste of space. If thats your idea of a player who is good enough then you have extremely low standards.

by **Paul C** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:45 pm

The thing that still needs to be answered is................ Is Cisse in Rafa's plans or would he sell him if someone came in with a half decent offer?

It's all well and good Rafa and Cisse saying everything is good between them but does Djibril have a future at Anfield in Rafa's mind?

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