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by **redsince2001** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:14 pm

He seems like a stubborn bugger when he wants to be and wont admit when he is wrong and swallow his pride for the sake of the side, I cant see him giving Cisse a run of games either when we clearly need goals. I also expect Morientes to start against Blackburn, I just hope he is not upfront on his own 3 points needed please in every game from now till January, we have nearly everyone back from injury and we can match any outfit in the prem on our day.
Time to start winning guys.

very true cggy

by **redsince2001** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:25 pm

cisse has scored again for france proving again 2 rafa that he sud be played......4 those who say that he doesnt fit into our system ..my answer to them is a striker's job is 2 score goals and cisse WILL GET US GOALS>>>>>>>>FU** THE SYSTEM>>>>>>>>CHANGE IT RAFA

by **redsince2001** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:32 pm

i also can't believe we let baros go for a like crouch..... All those morons who said he scored 15 goals for southampton and all...i guess they are happy now.

agree completely.......we sud have never sold baros........just because he expressed his feelings for not starting in the carling cup final......honestly i feel that's why rafa sold him.

by **davo_LFC** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:01 pm

baros was a head down merchant and i always felt that his heart wasnt truly at liverpool...after euro 2004 he was chattin on about dream moves to barce and that so he was never goin to stay at us for ages was he? cisse might well be scoring for france but internationals and premiership football are 2 different ball games.

by **Houllier=LFC** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:11 pm

From the England game its clear that Crouch needs a partner. give him Cisse!

by **Houllier=LFC** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:15 pm

Its not fair to say Baro's heart isnt with us, hes one of the most hardworking on the field everytime he plays for us.

by **davo_LFC** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:25 pm

he was a hardworking lad but he was also a selfish little cu.nt, also are you aware that we have sold him coz you are acting like he is still playin for us

by **Ciggy** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:02 pm

davo_LFC wrote:he was a hardworking lad but he was also a selfish little cu.nt, also are you aware that we have sold him coz you are acting like he is still playin for us

He must think Houllier is still our manager also

by **66-1120597113** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:24 pm

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:
davo_LFC wrote:he was a hardworking lad but he was also a selfish little cu.nt, also are you aware that we have sold him coz you are acting like he is still playin for us

He must think Houllier is still our manager also

FOR SURE

by **Houllier=LFC** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:29 pm

My nick says it all ?

by **Ciggy** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:46 pm

Houllier=LFC wrote:My nick says it all ?

Go way, really Id have never guessed :;):

by **woof woof !** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:58 pm

Rafa may have won our everlasting affection for the pieces of sparkling silver he gave us last season BUT the honeymoon is over . I don't expect him to deliver a premiership trophy within the next 3-4 years in fact the way things are looking I don't expect him to EVER bring us a premiership trophy , I do however expect him to give us champions league football each and every season , the fact that we gloriously won Europe's top team trophy last season disguises the fact that in regular week to week competition (the premiership) we were/are downright average finishing a miserable 5th last season. Indeed if it wasn't for the miracle in Istanbul we wouldn't now have Champions League football and all the attendant kudos and money that it brings . My main worry at the moment is that apart from being a team with no wingers who are employing a £7 million "no goal so far" solitary striker (:D yeah, I used the word striker advisedly) up front to feed off non existent crosses and provide knock downs for equally non existent supporting players , apart from that my main worry is we are not going to finish in the top four this season and in my opinion that is unacceptable for a team of our stature . We know that Rafa is no mug but right now I an totally baffled by many of his decisions and I'm becoming less and less impressed with his response to some of the problems we are facing .

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:41 pm

woof woof ! wrote:Rafa may have won our everlasting affection for the pieces of sparkling silver he gave us last season BUT the honeymoon is over . I don't expect him to deliver a premiership trophy within the next 3-4 years in fact the way things are looking I don't expect him to EVER bring us a premiership trophy , I do however expect him to give us champions league football each and every season , the fact that we gloriously won Europe's top team trophy last season disguises the fact that in regular week to week competition (the premiership) we were/are downright average finishing a miserable 5th last season. Indeed if it wasn't for the miracle in Istanbul we wouldn't now have Champions League football and all the attendant kudos and money that it brings . My main worry at the moment is that apart from being a team with no wingers who are employing a £7 million "no goal so far" solitary striker (:D yeah, I used the word striker advisedly) up front to feed off non existent crosses and provide knock downs for equally non existent supporting players , apart from that my main worry is we are not going to finish in the top four this season and in my opinion that is unacceptable for a team of our stature . We know that Rafa is no mug but right now I an totally baffled by many of his decisions and I'm becoming less and less impressed with his response to some of the problems we are facing .

Firstly I was under the considered opinion that Rafa was given 5 years to produce a team capable of playing progressive winning football ,and not a honeymoon period that consists of just one season and a handful of games .
It was only a matter of time when the whiners couldn’t refrain from biting their tongues any longer and poured their scorn in Rafa’s direction .
We all have the same aspirations, just be practical success wont come overnight because in the current climate Chelsea our running roughshod over the rest , lets be serious it took Chelsea half a century and only when the richest benefactor ever to taint our shores took them under his shady wings to attain a premiership title.
Im not having a pop at anyones expense I admire your passion but just bite into that tongue a little longer perhaps judge Rafa after another season ,but to offer Benitez such a scant amount of time is disparaging to say the least .
Ok Crouch hasn’t set the world alight but he wasn’t bought as an out and out striker he is a channel to bring other strikers into play and he does that efficiently enough for real fans to realise how effective he can be .
Garcia is an enigma but he has Rafa’s unflinching faith one thing is for sure is the lad gives 100% and never stops running and trying to bring people into the game even when he’s met with a crescendo of moans every time he loses possession .
Sissoko will be a revelation this season Pongolle likewise and if anyone has watched the reserves this season will have noticed Rafa can pick a player because Barragan and Hobbs are special to name just two .
So can we give the man another season before we lose hope entirely, after all we have one of the most respected and coveted coaches in world football it would be a shame to let some fans impulsiveness overshadow what could be an eventful season .

by **Red Indian** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:11 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:Rafa may have won our everlasting affection for the pieces of sparkling silver he gave us last season BUT the honeymoon is over . I don't expect him to deliver a premiership trophy within the next 3-4 years in fact the way things are looking I don't expect him to EVER bring us a premiership trophy , I do however expect him to give us champions league football each and every season , the fact that we gloriously won Europe's top team trophy last season disguises the fact that in regular week to week competition (the premiership) we were/are downright average finishing a miserable 5th last season. Indeed if it wasn't for the miracle in Istanbul we wouldn't now have Champions League football and all the attendant kudos and money that it brings . My main worry at the moment is that apart from being a team with no wingers who are employing a £7 million "no goal so far" solitary striker (:D yeah, I used the word striker advisedly) up front to feed off non existent crosses and provide knock downs for equally non existent supporting players , apart from that my main worry is we are not going to finish in the top four this season and in my opinion that is unacceptable for a team of our stature . We know that Rafa is no mug but right now I an totally baffled by many of his decisions and I'm becoming less and less impressed with his response to some of the problems we are facing .

Firstly I was under the considered opinion that Rafa was given 5 years to produce a team capable of playing progressive winning football ,and not a honeymoon period that consists of just one season and a handful of games .
It was only a matter of time when the whiners couldn’t refrain from biting their tongues any longer and poured their scorn in Rafa’s direction .
We all have the same aspirations, just be practical success wont come overnight because in the current climate Chelsea our running roughshod over the rest , lets be serious it took Chelsea half a century and only when the richest benefactor ever to taint our shores took them under his shady wings to attain a premiership title.
Im not having a pop at anyones expense I admire your passion but just bite into that tongue a little longer perhaps judge Rafa after another season ,but to offer Benitez such a scant amount of time is disparaging to say the least .
Ok Crouch hasn’t set the world alight but he wasn’t bought as an out and out striker he is a channel to bring other strikers into play and he does that efficiently enough for real fans to realise how effective he can be .
Garcia is an enigma but he has Rafa’s unflinching faith one thing is for sure is the lad gives 100% and never stops running and trying to bring people into the game even when he’s met with a crescendo of moans every time he loses possession .
Sissoko will be a revelation this season Pongolle likewise and if anyone has watched the reserves this season will have noticed Rafa can pick a player because Barragan and Hobbs are special to name just two .
So can we give the man another season before we lose hope entirely, after all we have one of the most respected and coveted coaches in world football it would be a shame to let some fans impulsiveness overshadow what could be an eventful season .

Well put, but a top 4 finish is a must this season and the way we are playing at the moment, it doesn't look like were gonna achieve it. IMO we have to start playing Cisse with Crouch, i acknowledge that he hasn't (Cisse) set the world alight yet but with Gerrard injured we've got no threat and teams aren't exactly afraid of us going forward anymore.

by **davo_LFC** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:24 pm

any1 get saturdays echo,that contains everything you need to know about rafas ambitions. just have faith,he needs time to deliver the goods coz he inherited a :censored:

poor squad and there is no quick fix,infact rafa winning the CL was before schedule so imagine what he can do when he has his own complete squad

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