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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:40 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:01 pm wrote:These tournaments always throw up a surprise team (Peru in 78, the Danes in 86, Bulgaria in 94, South Korea in 02 etc) so it will be interesting to see who punches above their weight this time around.
Hodgson talked big before the tournament about being attack minded and having a right go but reading some of his comments in the papers over the last few days it looks like he's getting cold feet.
Apparently he's been lecturing Sterling and Barkley about checking to see if they have enough cover behind them before they attempt to take someone on and telling them they can't just play in an off the cuff style they have got to consider the shape of the team as well.
So in other words prepare to be bored $hitless by England again.


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The most attacking team for some considerable time and they have 'Mr Malmo'  pulling their strings  :D
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Postby LFC1990 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:58 pm

Stu the Red » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:24 pm wrote:
LFC1990 » Thu May 15, 2014 8:07 am wrote:Argentinas front line is just amazing they might be the Liverpools on the world cup in terms of it doesnt matter how many you score we will score more than you.


Messi, Higuian, Lavezzi, Aguero they are all 30+ million pound players


They're that good they haven't even took Tevez...

f*cking unreal!


Tevex exclusion was nothing to do with ability but attitude hence why Franco Di santo has gone
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Postby laza » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:41 am

Oz  News com article for all stats freaks

NATE Silver’s powers of prediction are unparalleled. 
 
As the brain behind statistical analysis blog FiveThirtyEight, Silver has been forecasting results in political elections and sporting contests for years. During the last US presidential election, he correctly predicted the winner in all 50 states.

Now, Silver has turned his attention to the World Cup.

He has developed a predictive model called the Soccer Power Index (SPI), which harnesses reams of data to rate every team’s chances on a match-by-match basis.

“Technically speaking, SPI is two ratings systems rolled into one,” Silver says. “One based solely on a national team’s play, and one that reflects a composite of player ratings for what SPI projects to be a team’s top line-up.”


GROUP A: Brazil, Cameroon, Croatia, Mexico

The SPI gives Brazil a 99.4 per cent chance of progressing, and a 94.8 per cent chance of topping the group.

“Brazil would really have to blow it to not pass through the group stage with relative ease,” Silver says.

Mexico (39.7 per cent) is a slight favourite over Croatia (36.6 per cent) to join the host nation in the knockout phase.


GROUP B: Australia, Chile, Holland, Spain

According to Silver’s model, the Socceroos are practically guaranteed to crash out (92.2 per cent). Their best chance to grab a win (15 per cent) is against the Netherlands.

“This group — not the one the United States is in — is the “Group of Death”, with three teams ranked in the SPI top 10,” Silver writes.

“That’s unfortunate for Australia, which is the odd team out and has less chance than any other squad of advancing to the knockout stage.

“Instead the questions are, first, whether the Netherlands or Chile is superior, and second, whether both might be strong enough to deny Spain a place in the knockout stage.”

Holland made it to the final of the last World Cup, but the SPI predicts an early finish for the Dutch this time, with Chile progressing.
   

GROUP C: Colombia, Greece, Ivory Coast, Japan

No one is particularly excited about this group. According to Silver, Colombia should finish in first position (51.4 per cent), with the Ivory Coast in second.

“This is one of the weaker groups and sets up nicely for Colombia,” he says. “It’s a flawed group of opponents, although Colombia has sometimes lost or drawn against flawed opponents.”

GROUP D: Costa Rica, England, Italy, Uruguay

Uruguay, led by striker Luis Suarez, is the most likely to progress (64.1 per cent). The SPI also expects England to make it through, leaving 2006 world champion Italy languishing in third with a 53.4 per cent chance of getting knocked out.

“England, Italy and Uruguay are the sort of teams that might be able to entertain championship dreams in a World Cup with more parity, but not in one where they would have to overcome Brazil, Argentina, Germany or Spain at some point,” Silver says.


   

GROUP E: Ecuador, France, Honduras, Switzerland

According to FIFA’s official rankings, Switzerland is the world’s sixth best team, but Silver’s model gives Ecuador (55.4 per cent) a better chance of making it to the knockout phase.

In any case, the French should dominate this group ... assuming they actually show up.

“France has arguably as much player talent as any team but Brazil, Germany, Spain or Argentina, but its national team results have been inconsistent for a long while,” Silver writes.


GROUP F: Argentina, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Iran, Nigeria

Essentially, Lionel Messi has been given three warm up games to help him hit his stride. Argentina (92.5 per cent) will progress, and Bosnia-Herzegovina should join it in the top two (58.1 per cent).

“It would be a major upset if Argentina failed to advance to the knockout stage,” Silver says. “Still, Bosnia-Herzegovina, playing in its first World Cup under that flag, is the 13th best team in the world according to SPI.”


GROUP G: Germany, Ghana, Portugal, United States

Germany and Ronaldo — sorry, Portugal — are clearly the better teams, but this could turn into an interesting group anyway. The Germans have an 88.9 per cent chance of making it through, while the US (34.5 per cent) is Portugal’s biggest threat.

“Germany? Well, they’re really good. But as an offence-minded squad, the team might be ever so slightly prone towards letting in a soft goal and drawing (although probably not losing) a game that it shouldn’t,” Silver says.
   

GROUP H: Algeria, Belgium, Russia, South Korea

An uninspiring quartet fills the final group. Belgium (77.3 per cent) and Russia (64.8 per cent) should progress without much trouble.

“This is the weakest group in the field by some margin just about any way you slice and dice it,” Silver says. “It has both the worst best team (Belgium) and the worst worst team (Algeria).


SO, WHO WILL WIN THE WORLD CUP?

“Argentina, Germany and Spain, like Brazil, are wonderful soccer teams. You could perhaps debate which of the four would be favoured if the World Cup were played on a hastily constructed soccer pitch somewhere in the middle of the desert,” Silver writes.

“But this World Cup is being played in Brazil. No country has beaten Brazil on its home turf in almost 12 years.”

That loss, in a friendly against Paraguay back in 2002, barely counts. Brazil didn’t take the game seriously, and substituted most of its star players well before full-time. According to Silver, Brazil’s last home defeat in a match that actually mattered was in 1975.

With home ground advantage factored in, alongside all the other data, Silver’s Soccer Power Index gives Brazil a 45.2 per cent chance of winning the World Cup, ahead of Argentina (12.8 per cent), Germany (10.9 per cent), Spain (7.6 per cent) and Chile (4.2 per cent).
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:46 am

Anything could happen with Brazil, playing at home is a huge advantage but at the same time the pressure on this particular group of players is probably as big as any host team has ever had to endure.
Not only have they got the ghost of 1950 to lay to rest but there has been a lot of disquiet in the country about the validity of spending billions on 'vanity projects' like the World Cup and Olympics when there is such crushing poverty in the slums.
Anything but a Brazil win and those questions will be raised again.
This team won't be under any illusions, they'll be told from all quarters that quite simply they have to win and that type of pressure is hard to perform under.
Coutinho is probably best away from it all.
They do have a relatively cushy group though which will help
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Postby laza » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:55 am

Yeah while I expect Continent home advantage to determine the winner , I wouldn't be surprised to see Brazil crumble under the pressure
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Postby stmichael » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:47 am

Fancy Croatia to get at least a draw tonight.

With my betting record don't bet on it then  :D
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Postby laza » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:07 am

On these pitches anything is possible :D

Supposedly the pitch 3 days before England v Italy game

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Postby stmichael » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:19 am

Yeah these pitches will really affect England's slick passing game  :lookaround

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Postby The Good Yank » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:06 pm

On the slo motion replay of Neymar's goal I think I saw a worm actually crawl past the ball and beat it into the net.
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Postby red till i die!! » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:11 pm

brazil didnt look like eventual winners tonight with that performance. thought hulk and fred where really poor. they really know how to play the ref though who was extremely poor especially for the pen, i think he was sniffing whatever was in that can  :eyebrow  good performance from oscar who threw in a few tackles i thought wasnt in him.
croatia just sat back after getting a lucky break and didnt come out to play until it was too late. was impressed with rakitic, he looks to have many strong points to his game.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:26 pm

Brazil were very lucky there, the pen was an absolute shocker and I haven't got a clue why the ref ruled out that disallowed Croatian goal, it was never a foul on the keeper.
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Postby damjan193 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:04 am

f*cking mugged them the ref! Never a pen in a million years. And to think that I considered the guy to be one of the best refs in the world. Shocking decision.

As for the disallowed goal, I thought that it was the right decision since I think that almost any kind of a contact on the keeper in the 6-yard box is a foul. I had this discussion with my mates and they say I am wrong. I can't find anything about it on the net so I guess that I really am wrong.
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Postby red till i die!! » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:45 am

listen to your mates damjan  :laugh:  there was nothing wrong with that challenge at all, it was perfect timing by the croatian, goal should have stood.
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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:12 am

Croatia were well on their way to a creditable draw untill the ref stepped in with two shocking decisions, penalty and disallowed goal.

Convinced he wouldn't have given those decisions against Brazil.

Croatia were robbed.
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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:17 am

laza » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:07 am wrote:On these pitches anything is possible :D

Supposedly the pitch 3 days before England v Italy game

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It's a fking joke. Now they're actually spray painting the brown bits green !!!

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Already turning out to be the most shambolic world cup ever !.
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