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damjan193 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:57 pm wrote:I think Rodgers knows that he ***** up against Southampton, but do you really believe that he's going to admit it? I like the man as a manager but he is an arrogant person and a big egoist.

They all have big egos at this level though I suspect Rodgers isn't as inflated as most.

His selection was off against Southampton but we still had enough out there to win regardless and individuals have to
take responsibility for poor performances and regrettably some of our boys still blow hot and cold.

Since the manure defeat at O.T. earlier this year, yes, our PL performance have been decent. We outplayed and thrashed Norwich, Swansea, Sunderland, Newcastle, Wigan etc and we were not a 45 minute team even without Suarez. I just don't understand why Rodgers this season has switched to this sh*tty tactic of playing well for the first half and then sit back, defend stubbornly and let the opponents have all the possessions. Why the change to such defensive tactic in the 2nd half and why not continue with the same tactics in the 2nd of of last season when it was working so well? I just don't know what's going on in the mind of this bloke. If we lose but played outstanding football, I don't blame him but to purposely defend and lose/drop points as a result is inexcusable and deserves to be fired immediately.

you need to take a step back and chill the fuk out fella. your mumbling sh!te.

redno7 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:42 am wrote:you need to take a step back and chill the fuk out fella. your mumbling sh!te.

damjan193 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:57 pm wrote:I think Rodgers knows that he ***** up against Southampton, but do you really believe that he's going to admit it? I like the man as a manager but he is an arrogant person and a big egoist.

You think about how the players would react if he come out and said that?

Its not all black and white, everyone on the planet knows he ***** up, the players do. But if he said that in public there would be f*cking uproar in the changing room and it would cause a divide. Alot of footballers can't handle the truth. They all think they're the bees knees.

StuYesThatStu » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:01 pm wrote:

damjan193 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:57 pm wrote:I think Rodgers knows that he ***** up against Southampton, but do you really believe that he's going to admit it? I like the man as a manager but he is an arrogant person and a big egoist.

You think about how the players would react if he come out and said that?

Its not all black and white, everyone on the planet knows he ***** up, the players do. But if he said that in public there would be f*cking uproar in the changing room and it would cause a divide. Alot of footballers can't handle the truth. They all think they're the bees knees.

You might be right. It's not the best way of thinking for a manager to come out and say "yep, I ***** up" even though it's crystal clear that he did. It will probably only make things worse.

redno7 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:42 am wrote:you need to take a step back and chill the fuk out fella. your mumbling sh!te.

How many years now is it this poster is been able to post this sort of posts on a regular basis. The poster adds nothing to anything thread but to insult people.

Benny The Noon » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:19 pm wrote:

redno7 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:42 am wrote:you need to take a step back and chill the fuk out fella. your mumbling sh!te.

How many years now is it this poster is been able to post this sort of posts on a regular basis. The poster adds nothing to anything thread but to insult people.

Aslong as its you he's insulting I don't think anyone cares.

Shut your whinging for gods sake. You sound like a little girl.

Still waiting to hear what makes you more superior than others on here and in the game Stu ?

And please don't say because you played semi pro once - tens of thousands have

How the f*ck have you got a bird?

StuYesThatStu » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:40 pm wrote:How the f*ck have you got a bird?

Didn't really answer the question - more a deflection really isn't it Stu. Legend in your own lifetime I guess.

You have to try and derail every thread with your pathetic whinging...

No wonder half the forum want you banned!!

Has he got it right yet?
I believe we are suffering because of basic and fundamental things which other teams seem to think are more important than we do
1. Giving the ball away constantly is the opposite of what the manager wants. Yet Lucas, Gerrard (of late) Henderson and Enrique are all guilty of doing this. How do you stop it, other than dropping the player until he understands that you dont like it.
2. Corners. Do we practice them? It doesnt look like because we are one of the most ineffectual teams when it comes to scoring from corners. Stop Gerrard taking them? Is this the answer?
3. Throw ins. Total waste of time for decades for LFC. Why bother claiming them just to give posession back to the oposition? Much better to let the other team take them so WE gain posession?
4. Free kicks from outside shooting range. Again, Gerrard takes them and pretty much hits and hopes he gets a good delivery, then hopes someone will convert it into a goal. Do we need a rethink instead of doing the same thing over and over with the same result? Should someone else take them?
5. Free kicks from inside shooting range. Baines has proved it can be done. Cant we? Maybe with Suarez coming back this will change?
6. Crossing the ball into the box. If, and its a big if, we get a good cross in the box, we have no one there to head it. We have lost Crouch and Carroll and are shy of tall target men to head the ball in the net. So why bother trying?
7. Get numbers in the box. Nearly every attack we have see us outnumbered by the oppositions players. This means its harder to thread the ball through and we constantly get to the edge of the box, or in a position to put it into the danger area, only to see that we dont have enough players to cause trouble.
8. Not lumping it into the oppositions box to put pressure on when theres five minutes to go in a cup match. I am not contradicting myself when I was saying that crossing it was pointless. Im talking about the knowledge that managers and players have that we will not do this basic action because, no matter how little time we have left, we will not lower ourselves to do something like this. How about getting a "lets throw  the kitchen sink at them" type of mentality. Or doesnt the manager trust that we have the balls to do it? These are just some of the concerns I have that are seen nearly every time we play.
What bothers me is that we dont seem to change things around to give us different options.

Thommo's perm » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:20 pm wrote:Has he got it right yet?
I believe we are suffering because of basic and fundamental things which other teams seem to think are more important than we do
1. Giving the ball away constantly is the opposite of what the manager wants. Yet Lucas, Gerrard (of late) Henderson and Enrique are all guilty of doing this. How do you stop it, other than dropping the player until he understands that you dont like it.
2. Corners. Do we practice them? It doesnt look like because we are one of the most ineffectual teams when it comes to scoring from corners. Stop Gerrard taking them? Is this the answer?
3. Throw ins. Total waste of time for decades for LFC. Why bother claiming them just to give posession back to the oposition? Much better to let the other team take them so WE gain posession?
4. Free kicks from outside shooting range. Again, Gerrard takes them and pretty much hits and hopes he gets a good delivery, then hopes someone will convert it into a goal. Do we need a rethink instead of doing the same thing over and over with the same result? Should someone else take them?
5. Free kicks from inside shooting range. Baines has proved it can be done. Cant we? Maybe with Suarez coming back this will change?
6. Crossing the ball into the box. If, and its a big if, we get a good cross in the box, we have no one there to head it. We have lost Crouch and Carroll and are shy of tall target men to head the ball in the net. So why bother trying?
7. Get numbers in the box. Nearly every attack we have see us outnumbered by the oppositions players. This means its harder to thread the ball through and we constantly get to the edge of the box, or in a position to put it into the danger area, only to see that we dont have enough players to cause trouble.
8. Not lumping it into the oppositions box to put pressure on when theres five minutes to go in a cup match. I am not contradicting myself when I was saying that crossing it was pointless. Im talking about the knowledge that managers and players have that we will not do this basic action because, no matter how little time we have left, we will not lower ourselves to do something like this. How about getting a "lets throw  the kitchen sink at them" type of mentality. Or doesnt the manager trust that we have the balls to do it? These are just some of the concerns I have that are seen nearly every time we play.
What bothers me is that we dont seem to change things around to give us different options.

Totally agree on all points. I honestly wonder why the basics are like this. It's what costs us. It's like observers see it and those that matter don't see it. In particular the failure to get bodies in the box when attacking, coupled with the lack of a loiterer on the edge of the box has been a problem for years.

A major problem is how one tone we are. We play well in possession against attacking teams, who are maybe not so used to teams getting in their face, but when we play teams who force us to think in extra dimensions, we lack the guile to do anything about it. That encourages the opposition whilst we retreat and have no back up plans. I wish we'd signed Alonso. His class used to dismantle such teams. Moses has impressed me though and gives us a different outlet to what we've had since maybe Patrick Berger.

I've whined about the lack of muscle upfront, and I dare say that's going to hurt us this season. It seems to border on amateurish to overlook such a basic requirement.

My early judgement on BR is that he excels in some areas whilst either having no clue, or too arrogant to deal with others. My suspicion is still that he's more suited to coaching, and leaving the transfers and planning to someone else.

Is there anyway we could bring someone in to do more of  the."managing bits" whilst BR coaches the players?