Liverpool FC Forum

redalltheway36 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:38 pm wrote:The bit i dont get is Carroll left virtually on the last minute surely brendan knew by then that the owners werent gona cough up and plus why didnt the owners tell him look even if you get rid of andy we wont buy a replacement Seems really weird that the owners would let carroll go at the last minute. Surely they aernt that thick to think 2 strikers would suffice for a full season.

While I understand your confusion about the owners apparently believing 2 strikers would be enough, the rest of your post doesn't make sense:

You are sure that Brendan knew the owners weren't going to cough up.
At the same time you are apparently sure they didn't tell Brendan they weren't going to cough up.

Now I'm more confused!

Raoul » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:18 am wrote:

redalltheway36 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:38 pm wrote:The bit i dont get is Carroll left virtually on the last minute surely brendan knew by then that the owners werent gona cough up and plus why didnt the owners tell him look even if you get rid of andy we wont buy a replacement Seems really weird that the owners would let carroll go at the last minute. Surely they aernt that thick to think 2 strikers would suffice for a full season.

While I understand your confusion about the owners apparently believing 2 strikers would be enough, the rest of your post doesn't make sense:

You are sure that Brendan knew the owners weren't going to cough up.
At the same time you are apparently sure they didn't tell Brendan they weren't going to cough up.

Now I'm more confused!

why you confused im saying surely they would of told him but then again maybe they didnt. But then Brendan said at the end he wanted to sign 2 strikers but basically they werent having it. So if he knew they werent letting him any strikers why let carroll go.

#blamesuarez

Wake up call for Fenway perhaps as their 'learning curve' continues.

Should have coughed up the cash in January and its their fault every injury is
a critical blow.

Raoul » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:18 am wrote:

redalltheway36 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:38 pm wrote:The bit i dont get is Carroll left virtually on the last minute surely brendan knew by then that the owners werent gona cough up and plus why didnt the owners tell him look even if you get rid of andy we wont buy a replacement Seems really weird that the owners would let carroll go at the last minute. Surely they aernt that thick to think 2 strikers would suffice for a full season.

While I understand your confusion about the owners apparently believing 2 strikers would be enough, the rest of your post doesn't make sense:

You are sure that Brendan knew the owners weren't going to cough up.
At the same time you are apparently sure they didn't tell Brendan they weren't going to cough up.

Now I'm more confused!

He signed 36 hours before the window closed.

Signed at midday on the 30th, the window closed at midnight on the 31st

SouthCoastShankly » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:38 am wrote:

Raoul » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:18 am wrote:

redalltheway36 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:38 pm wrote:The bit i dont get is Carroll left virtually on the last minute surely brendan knew by then that the owners werent gona cough up and plus why didnt the owners tell him look even if you get rid of andy we wont buy a replacement Seems really weird that the owners would let carroll go at the last minute. Surely they aernt that thick to think 2 strikers would suffice for a full season.

While I understand your confusion about the owners apparently believing 2 strikers would be enough, the rest of your post doesn't make sense:

You are sure that Brendan knew the owners weren't going to cough up.
At the same time you are apparently sure they didn't tell Brendan they weren't going to cough up.

Now I'm more confused!

He signed 36 hours before the window closed.

Signed at midday on the 30th, the window closed at midnight on the 31st

wonder if we will find out on being liverpool tonight on tv?

Daniel Pacheco

all fixed.

The media call this a crisis at Liverpool now that Borini is injured. Whose fault is it that we have such a thin squad esp. up front? Brendan's or FSG's? I would put it down to both. Now we're depending on the youngsters in Morgan and Yesil to fill up the void. Like I said before this is just like Hitler calling up the Hitler youth to defend the Fatherland at the last days of the Third Reich.

IMHO, FSG so far have been mean with investing, they wanted the youth to be gradually promoted to the first team in a few seasons time and hope they will become world class. What they have overlooked is, the club will be lingering down the bottom half of the table for the whole season and our star names will be gone by next summer. A scary outlook indeed if they persist on with this. Something is wrong with them, look at their Boston Red Sox, they are now at the bottom of the Eastern Division in the American league. And I used to think they generously funded Kenny with the huge 120 million to spend, but that's not true, most of that money came from the sale of players like that sulking bloke to Chelsea etc. They funded only around 50 million at most. If they're not only to do something at the January window, we'll end up playing good football but cannot win games.

Brendan, when he came for interview, I think FSG needed him more than he needed the job and he should have made it clear to them right from day 1 that for him to take the job the condition would be for the owners will have to fund him with at least 100 million every summer. Because a club like Liverpool should be challenging to win the PL every season and today's football you need that kind of money to compete. Otherwise what's the point with no money like now and most likely ended up mid table at best. He could have stayed at Swansea where just remain in the PL would make him a local hero but with this kind of performance at Liverpool which we will be for the whole season, his job is not secure and the fans' patience with him will run dry. Because we are Liverpool not just another club to make up the numbers.

Again let me repeat what I said in a previous thread and I was scolded for it, it is this, if by January no or insufficient funds are forthcoming from FSG, if I were Brendan, I would have to give Mr.Henry and Werner an ultimatum, "Back me with the funds to get player so and so... and if you're going to be stingy, then sack me. The club is not going to challenge for any honours if you carry on like this, I might as well stayed at Swansea where I was well liked minus the stress of managing such a big club."

I personally, am sick of FSG. Let's see what they will do in January and I might change my mind.

and I'm sure FSG are sick of divs like you. same old sh!te different day from the likes of you.

Laughable that we have ONE recognised fit striker other than kids. Time for Rodgers to give Morgan and Yesil a run. He has no choice really now. I hope to god that nothing happens to Suarez...

alwayslfc - I know that Kenny and Comolli sold players to fund part of their £110m spend on new plays which turned out to be a bit of a disaster but it has to be remembered that FSG allowed them to spend the money. After that experience is it any wonder they being more cautious. Having said that they were still the fifth highest spenders during the summer in the Premiership. Struggling to understand why you have taken such a dislike to FSG. As a result of fan power FSG Kenny was given the managers job. Unfortunately it didn't work out with Kenny and even more so Comolli and changes had to be made. Patience is now vital after the H & G,Hodgson and Dalglish years which will take a long time and a lot of hard work to recover from.

I'd chuck Samed Yesil into the mix. He lookled quite good against West Brom.

devaney » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:13 pm wrote:alwayslfc - I know that Kenny and Comolli sold players to fund part of their £110m spend on new plays which turned out to be a bit of a disaster but it has to be remembered that FSG allowed them to spend the money. After that experience is it any wonder they being more cautious. Having said that they were still the fifth highest spenders during the summer in the Premiership. Struggling to understand why you have taken such a dislike to FSG. As a result of fan power FSG Kenny was given the managers job. Unfortunately it didn't work out with Kenny and even more so Comolli and changes had to be made. Patience is now vital after the H & G,Hodgson and Dalglish years which will take a long time and a lot of hard work to recover from.

the dalglish years? you mean the 18 months where he inherited a club just above the relegation zone at christmas with a fan base in civil war? you mean where he took us to second in the form table in his first 6 months in charge? you mean where he took us to our first 2 cup finals in 6 years and our first trophy in 6 years?
it wasnt kenny who asked a baseball stats guru if he could recommend anyone to be our DoF
it wasnt kenny who arrived here talking about revolutionising player recruitment in this country.

alwayslfc » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:41 am wrote:The media call this a crisis at Liverpool now that Borini is injured. Whose fault is it that we have such a thin squad esp. up front? Brendan's or FSG's? I would put it down to both. Now we're depending on the youngsters in Morgan and Yesil to fill up the void. Like I said before this is just like Hitler calling up the Hitler youth to defend the Fatherland at the last days of the Third Reich.

IMHO, FSG so far have been mean with investing, they wanted the youth to be gradually promoted to the first team in a few seasons time and hope they will become world class. What they have overlooked is, the club will be lingering down the bottom half of the table for the whole season and our star names will be gone by next summer. A scary outlook indeed if they persist on with this. Something is wrong with them, look at their Boston Red Sox, they are now at the bottom of the Eastern Division in the American league. And I used to think they generously funded Kenny with the huge 120 million to spend, but that's not true, most of that money came from the sale of players like that sulking bloke to Chelsea etc. They funded only around 50 million at most. If they're not only to do something at the January window, we'll end up playing good football but cannot win games.

Brendan, when he came for interview, I think FSG needed him more than he needed the job and he should have made it clear to them right from day 1 that for him to take the job the condition would be for the owners will have to fund him with at least 100 million every summer. Because a club like Liverpool should be challenging to win the PL every season and today's football you need that kind of money to compete. Otherwise what's the point with no money like now and most likely ended up mid table at best. He could have stayed at Swansea where just remain in the PL would make him a local hero but with this kind of performance at Liverpool which we will be for the whole season, his job is not secure and the fans' patience with him will run dry. Because we are Liverpool not just another club to make up the numbers.

Again let me repeat what I said in a previous thread and I was scolded for it, it is this, if by January no or insufficient funds are forthcoming from FSG, if I were Brendan, I would have to give Mr.Henry and Werner an ultimatum, "Back me with the funds to get player so and so... and if you're going to be stingy, then sack me. The club is not going to challenge for any honours if you carry on like this, I might as well stayed at Swansea where I was well liked minus the stress of managing such a big club."

I personally, am sick of FSG. Let's see what they will do in January and I might change my mind.

So Rodgers is Hitler In your twisted analogy??? From where does one pull this shiit...

And seriously what do you want from FSG? They gave more then enough funds for our managers to work with ,he failed in bringing anyone ,actually brought one over paid striker (Borini) and released another valid striker without getting a replacement. Gamble has become a troubling habit with LFC managers.

stick gerrard upfront or certainly push him further forward. he's the best finiasher at the club.