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Funny the way these discussions go round and round in circles........

Reg » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:14 am wrote:Funny the way these discussions go round and round in circles........

Thats exactly right. People keep repeating themselves, over and over

Thommo's perm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:18 pm wrote:
Have you read any of my posts regarding comparisons between Rodgers and Shankly?

I did mate, but I'm not comparing his attitude or the way he speaks, I'm only saying he has a long way to go in terms what he has to achieve to be even considered a great manager

metalhead » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:08 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:18 pm wrote:
Have you read any of my posts regarding comparisons between Rodgers and Shankly?

I did mate, but I'm not comparing his attitude or the way he speaks, I'm only saying he has a long way to go in terms what he has to achieve to be even considered a great manager

The comparison is not about achievements or greatness, it couldnt possibly be. That would be ridiculous.
Shankly didnt start off being great, by the way...

Thommo's perm » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:28 pm wrote:

metalhead » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:08 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:18 pm wrote:
Have you read any of my posts regarding comparisons between Rodgers and Shankly?

I did mate, but I'm not comparing his attitude or the way he speaks, I'm only saying he has a long way to go in terms what he has to achieve to be even considered a great manager

The comparison is not about achievements or greatness, it couldnt possibly be. That would be ridiculous.
Shankly didnt start off being great, by the way...

Yeah and i've not once heard him call himself a great manager.

All he's guilty of his having a vision for his teams and passion about talking to people about it . i for one enjoy listening to his thoughts on the way the game should be played because he speaks with passion and class and i think takes our club back to the days when our managers were listened to by people not ridiculded.

metalhead » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:08 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:18 pm wrote:
Have you read any of my posts regarding comparisons between Rodgers and Shankly?

I did mate, but I'm not comparing his attitude or the way he speaks, I'm only saying he has a long way to go in terms what he has to achieve to be even considered a great manager

He's just got here MH. He needs time.

tubby » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:50 am wrote:He's just got here MH. He needs time.

It's far too early to be comparing him to our greatest manager (yes I rate Shankly higher than Paisley), Shankly not only talked a great game, his teams played great games. Rodgers has come in and has impressed with his knowledge of our club, of football and seems strong minded which is brilliant, but he hasn't achieved anything here at the moment, so any comparison to past greats is just ridiculous and should be ridiculed.

Boxscarf » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:40 pm wrote:

tubby » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:50 am wrote:He's just got here MH. He needs time.

It's far too early to be comparing him to our greatest manager (yes I rate Shankly higher than Paisley), Shankly not only talked a great game, his teams played great games. Rodgers has come in and has impressed with his knowledge of our club, of football and seems strong minded which is brilliant, but he hasn't achieved anything here at the moment, so any comparison to past greats is just ridiculous and should be ridiculed.

Ok you win. No more comparisons
Could you just remind us what Shankly achieved in his first season?
Cheers

There is no grounds for your silly comparison. It's not about who did what in their first season. Shankly was our manager for 15 years. Rodgers has been our manager just over 3 months. Shankly won 3 league titles in the top division, two FA Cups, a UEFA Cup and 4 Charity Shields. Rodgers has won nothing yet, so to compare the two is plain ridiculous, it's also disrespectful to Shankly's memory. Bill Shankly was the greatest manager this club has ever had and probably will ever have and for you to come out with such nonsense is an absolute disgrace. I'm offended by your nonsense. Next you'll be comparing Houllier's tenure as manager to Bob Paisley's tenure.

Am I even allowed myself to compare managers with the way they approach the game, their passion for this club and football in general, their footballing philosophy etc and not just their achievement alone, without even being ridiculed? Some people here need to take a chill pill 

Boxscarf » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:20 pm wrote:There is no grounds for your silly comparison. It's not about who did what in their first season. Shankly was our manager for 15 years. Rodgers has been our manager just over 3 months. Shankly won 3 league titles in the top division, two FA Cups, a UEFA Cup and 4 Charity Shields. Rodgers has won nothing yet, so to compare the two is plain ridiculous, it's also disrespectful to Shankly's memory. Bill Shankly was the greatest manager this club has ever had and probably will ever have and for you to come out with such nonsense is an absolute disgrace. I'm offended by your nonsense. Next you'll be comparing Houllier's tenure as manager to Bob Paisley's tenure.

Are you being deliberately Fu*king thick??
THE COMPARISON IS NOT ABOUT ACHIEVEMENTS!
How can someone whos been at the club for mere months be compared in that way with someone who achieved what youve stated over YEARS you tit?
And who the fu'ck are you to tell me what Shankly did and who he was? I know because I have been a Red all my life. I dont need lessons from you about what Shankly means to this club, you cheeky tw@t. You have the gall to say I am being "disrespectful to Shankly's memory"? You might as well say Im spitting on his grave. How Fu*king dare you!!
I asked you what Shankly did in his first season. Dont you know? Do you want me to tell you? Im not even going to explain the comparison again, just read the previous threads and attempt to get your tiny brain around whats being suggested. Try your very hardest to understand what I am saying and how this concept could benefit LFC, instead of coming out with the pathetic, offensive bo'llocks youve just stated. If you cant or simply wont, then take your sanctimonious, pseudo-outrage and shove it up your ignorant, arrogant hole!

Santa » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:20 pm wrote:Am I even allowed myself to compare managers with the way they approach the game, their passion for this club and football in general, their footballing philosophy etc and not just their achievement alone, without even being ridiculed? Some people here need to take a chill pill 

i like rodgers but how (at this moment) can you compare his passion for LFC to the other managers we`ve had?
bob paisley signed for liverpool from amateur football when zeppelins were flying around the skies and by the time he left anfield they were landing space probes on mars. paisley had been at anfield 20 years before shankly even arrived and bob took over from bill as manager!!
joe fagan was only a decade or so behind bob and look at the years roy evans was at the club, roy was in tears in the press conference when he announced he was leaving. we are talking about a highly dignified 55 year old man being in bits because he was leaving LFC.
even gerrard houllier was a fan from the 1960`s when he worked in liverpool as a foreign student.
i`m sure rodgers is committed to the cause and i think he is trying to buy into what it means to represent this club but he has not got the love for this club that the likes of shankly, paisley, fagan, evans, houllier and kenny had, to them liverpool was the be all and end all.
lets face it if chelsea would have offered rodgers the job at stamford bridge he wouldnt be here now.
one day brendan may love this club like shanks and bob did, but he`s got a long way to go yet, i dont think deep down in his heart of hearts liverpool is `his` team yet, at the moment chelsea or even man united might still be his team but that can change, rafa was a real madrid man through and through until he arrived here.
the special relationships the likes of shanks, bob, kenny and rafa had with this club were forged in the fires of triumph and disaster, their love for this club isnt just a soundbyte in a press conference.

Rodgers hasnt achieved didley squat yet, and he may not do.
No one can predict what will happen.

More to the point is, how long should a Liverpool manager get to prove himself, bearing in mind the expectation in the job

The Hustler » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:30 pm wrote:Rodgers hasnt achieved didley squat yet, and he may not do.
No one can predict what will happen.

More to the point is, how long should a Liverpool manager get to prove himself, bearing in mind the expectation in the job

The results may have not gone our way and luck certainly hasn't been on our side. Anyone who's watched us this season can see what Rodgers is trying to achieve and some of the football we've played at times has been a joy to watch. I genuinely look forward to watching the reds take to the field these days

I say Rodgers needs this full season at the VERY LEAST, though going by our track record of changing lately I'd say Rodgers needs longer, otherwise we end up with a mis-match of various managers' ideas

The Hustler » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:30 pm wrote:Rodgers hasnt achieved didley squat yet, and he may not do.
No one can predict what will happen.

More to the point is, how long should a Liverpool manager get to prove himself, bearing in mind the expectation in the job

It's perfectly ok to hold an opposing opinion on tactics/players/manager ,god knows i've been one stubborn ***** over the years....But your posts are ,to say the least, are one of the most superficial ,shellow ,not convincing arguments one have read as of late.

Rodgers should get at the bare minumum a year or two before one pass judgment ,and anyone with football eyes can see and understand what he is trying to accomplish and even if not still showing in points or wins ,it is showing in style and tactics ,direction is postive even if not backed up by the bottom line.

Your post serve nothing ,just provocative ,not interesting nor inducing discussions ,just insults.