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Reg » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:12 am wrote:Some people have written a lot of silly things in the past couple of pages of this thread, I don't know whether its because they don't understand the situation, can't think things through or are plain stupid, the end result is people drift away from the forum.

Anyone seriously judging BR at this stage of his Liverpool career is a fool. The guy accepted the most difficult job in football, to reverse the decline of a major club where 3 managers had failed within the previous 18 months, the club had been virtually bankrupt by the previous owners, a colossal amount of money had been wasted on transfers and giving players new contracts when they should have been shown the door.

The guy's turned the club upside down which calls for courage and strength of character similar to the Mourinho's, Ferguson's and Brian Clough's of this world. He's shown every squad player they have to justify their place at the club by ignoring 'senior players' and gambling on his junior squad - not just one or two players but the whole ruddy team! Cole, Downing etc... there's the door lads, we don't need you.

At the same time, in just 2-3 games he has made Liverpool THE most attractive club for a young player to come and join and get their chance to play. Agents from all over europe will have heard the news and will be sending their starlets' cv to Anfield - 'Hey Bren, I've got this 17 year old in Portugal who's exactly your type of player'. And it will pi$$ off the Ferguson's of this world no end having spent a lot of money yet in 12 months time LFC will have an equally capable squad that cost us peanuts. As BR says, his lads will run through barbed wire for him, the Citech, Chelsea and Utd lads need 100 thou a week to get out of bed. 

That we've made a poor start means nothing. BR's put his cards on the table and its a very ballsy plan. And I think it will work. I think we will be 5-6th place this season with a team of youngsters and I can't wait to see who becomes the new backbone of the team and who else comes in, attracted by the new era. I don't see us buying anyone over 26 years old - and after what I've seen, I don't want them anyway. Bring in more young lads.

So to those with verbal diarrhea and spouting off out of ignorance, STFU until you have something intelligent to say.

I don't see us buying anyone over 26 years old - and after what I've seen, I don't want them anyway. Bring in more young lads.

The Raven » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:30 am wrote:

Reg » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:12 am wrote:Some people have written a lot of silly things in the past couple of pages of this thread, I don't know whether its because they don't understand the situation, can't think things through or are plain stupid, the end result is people drift away from the forum.

Anyone seriously judging BR at this stage of his Liverpool career is a fool. The guy accepted the most difficult job in football, to reverse the decline of a major club where 3 managers had failed within the previous 18 months, the club had been virtually bankrupt by the previous owners, a colossal amount of money had been wasted on transfers and giving players new contracts when they should have been shown the door.

The guy's turned the club upside down which calls for courage and strength of character similar to the Mourinho's, Ferguson's and Brian Clough's of this world. He's shown every squad player they have to justify their place at the club by ignoring 'senior players' and gambling on his junior squad - not just one or two players but the whole ruddy team! Cole, Downing etc... there's the door lads, we don't need you.

At the same time, in just 2-3 games he has made Liverpool THE most attractive club for a young player to come and join and get their chance to play. Agents from all over europe will have heard the news and will be sending their starlets' cv to Anfield - 'Hey Bren, I've got this 17 year old in Portugal who's exactly your type of player'. And it will pi$$ off the Ferguson's of this world no end having spent a lot of money yet in 12 months time LFC will have an equally capable squad that cost us peanuts. As BR says, his lads will run through barbed wire for him, the Citech, Chelsea and Utd lads need 100 thou a week to get out of bed. 

That we've made a poor start means nothing. BR's put his cards on the table and its a very ballsy plan. And I think it will work. I think we will be 5-6th place this season with a team of youngsters and I can't wait to see who becomes the new backbone of the team and who else comes in, attracted by the new era. I don't see us buying anyone over 26 years old - and after what I've seen, I don't want them anyway. Bring in more young lads.

So to those with verbal diarrhea and spouting off out of ignorance, STFU until you have something intelligent to say.

I guess im one of the STFU people.

I dont have an issue with him, I just hate and i mean hate the whole Brendan is the new shanks, *****! what because he shook a few hands? I also hate it when people go on about what a great manager he is when he has won less than the owl.

He is what he is, a young inexperanced manager with some great ideas, this job offers him the platform to showcase what he is made off. Will it work? who knows a certain ex player did very well with a barca side not long back, so anything is possible.

I don't see us buying anyone over 26 years old - and after what I've seen, I don't want them anyway. Bring in more young lads.

Really? Come Jan i want a proven goal scorer not a young lad that will take a year to settle.

Thommo's perm » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:22 am wrote:

The Raven » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:30 am wrote:

Reg » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:12 am wrote:Some people have written a lot of silly things in the past couple of pages of this thread, I don't know whether its because they don't understand the situation, can't think things through or are plain stupid, the end result is people drift away from the forum.

Anyone seriously judging BR at this stage of his Liverpool career is a fool. The guy accepted the most difficult job in football, to reverse the decline of a major club where 3 managers had failed within the previous 18 months, the club had been virtually bankrupt by the previous owners, a colossal amount of money had been wasted on transfers and giving players new contracts when they should have been shown the door.

The guy's turned the club upside down which calls for courage and strength of character similar to the Mourinho's, Ferguson's and Brian Clough's of this world. He's shown every squad player they have to justify their place at the club by ignoring 'senior players' and gambling on his junior squad - not just one or two players but the whole ruddy team! Cole, Downing etc... there's the door lads, we don't need you.

At the same time, in just 2-3 games he has made Liverpool THE most attractive club for a young player to come and join and get their chance to play. Agents from all over europe will have heard the news and will be sending their starlets' cv to Anfield - 'Hey Bren, I've got this 17 year old in Portugal who's exactly your type of player'. And it will pi$$ off the Ferguson's of this world no end having spent a lot of money yet in 12 months time LFC will have an equally capable squad that cost us peanuts. As BR says, his lads will run through barbed wire for him, the Citech, Chelsea and Utd lads need 100 thou a week to get out of bed. 

That we've made a poor start means nothing. BR's put his cards on the table and its a very ballsy plan. And I think it will work. I think we will be 5-6th place this season with a team of youngsters and I can't wait to see who becomes the new backbone of the team and who else comes in, attracted by the new era. I don't see us buying anyone over 26 years old - and after what I've seen, I don't want them anyway. Bring in more young lads.

So to those with verbal diarrhea and spouting off out of ignorance, STFU until you have something intelligent to say.

I guess im one of the STFU people.

I dont have an issue with him, I just hate and i mean hate the whole Brendan is the new shanks, *****! what because he shook a few hands? I also hate it when people go on about what a great manager he is when he has won less than the owl.

He is what he is, a young inexperanced manager with some great ideas, this job offers him the platform to showcase what he is made off. Will it work? who knows a certain ex player did very well with a barca side not long back, so anything is possible.

I don't see us buying anyone over 26 years old - and after what I've seen, I don't want them anyway. Bring in more young lads.

Really? Come Jan i want a proven goal scorer not a young lad that will take a year to settle.

The stark similarities with Shankly are there for anyone with limited intelligence to see. Shankly was inexperienced at top level and came to a massive club in decline where the ground was inadequate. Shankly had a vision and a philosophy, mainly: "if you want to play for this club then prove it. If you dont, fu'ck off". He never won anything for 3 years but he was slowly building a squad in all this time. He shook the place up and changed it completely.
You are obviously thinking of the later legendary Bill Shankly who was successful after years of hard graft and numerous disappointments .

Ola Mr Benitez » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:33 am wrote:I am really impressed with BR - I love the style of play, I love the pasion he speaks with, I love the way he has given young hungry players a chance.

BUT

He is not Shanks, or Bob or any other manager and I am pretty sure he would want to be comapred to any of them just yet, He is Brendan Rogers, Liverpool Manager and that is how he will want to be judged

Thommo's perm » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:48 am wrote:The Raven

"And 4 months in charge shows this? Must be my limted intelligence i guess.
As i said i like what i see but thats pushing the boat out a little bit isnt it?  I will wait until the end of season before i compaire him to anyone."

You are missing the point, probably deliberately?
Rodgers is being compared to Shankly because he is like him with regards to his attitude and  because the situation he has taken over is similar.
It doesnt mean he is, or will be a legend. Maybe he will, maybe he wont, time will tell. This comparison takes nothing away from who Shankly was or what he achieved and it certainly doesnt make Rodgers a genius or an icon.
What it does do is to give people hope that we are back on track and embracing some of the things Shankly stood for, which should make supporters happy. Because thats what Shankly did...

stmichael » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:26 pm wrote:The comment above pointing out that he's won less than Hodgson (who's had a 36 year management career of mediocrity) is laughable.

Rodgers has immersed himself in our club already. Couldn't be further removed from Hodgson when he was here.

The Raven » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:39 pm wrote:

stmichael » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:26 pm wrote:The comment above pointing out that he's won less than Hodgson (who's had a 36 year management career of mediocrity) is laughable.

Rodgers has immersed himself in our club already. Couldn't be further removed from Hodgson when he was here.

Laughable but true regardless of anything else. Even AVB has a better CV, his only success was getting swansea into the prem, even then that was via a play off.

Not a knock just pointing out how inexperanced he is.

The Raven » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:12 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:48 am wrote:The Raven

"And 4 months in charge shows this? Must be my limted intelligence i guess.
As i said i like what i see but thats pushing the boat out a little bit isnt it?  I will wait until the end of season before i compaire him to anyone."

You are missing the point, probably deliberately?
Rodgers is being compared to Shankly because he is like him with regards to his attitude and  because the situation he has taken over is similar.
It doesnt mean he is, or will be a legend. Maybe he will, maybe he wont, time will tell. This comparison takes nothing away from who Shankly was or what he achieved and it certainly doesnt make Rodgers a genius or an icon.
What it does do is to give people hope that we are back on track and embracing some of the things Shankly stood for, which should make supporters happy. Because thats what Shankly did...

Your take on it seems fair  will agree with you on the points above and move on.

His treatment of so called first teamers (carroll aside) has been nothing short of ground breaking IMO. He has more or less told Downing to sort his life out or pee off. He has given him a chance, looked at it and made his mind up Suso is better regardless of how much money he cost or earns.

He does not seem to keen on player power does he!