Liverpool FC Forum

tubby » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:27 pm wrote:Say what you want about the ref, Jonjo or Utd but you can't lay any blame on Rogers after today. He got his tactics spot on and even for large spells with 10 men we were still the better team.

We lost today because a young player showed his inexperience and the ref gave all the decisions to them.

Yup, can't fault anything on Rodgers today, got it spot on and I was so shocked we were the better team when Shelvey got sent off.

The ref played a blinder though, unbelievable

I partly agree with Mourinho that BR can't win the PL with Liverpool. I agree partly not because we have lousy players or manager but we have owners who have not much money to invest. So Jose, you're wrong in the sense that the root problem are our owners, not our manager or our players, period.

I feel sorry for Brandon. Look, he has to deal with lack of funds to invest, now we're in relegation zone and luck is not on our side. Our first 3 home games have been against top sides. Unless we have a proven goal scorer in the team, it will be championship football next season or a long relegation battle this season.

tubby » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:27 pm wrote: the ref gave all the decisions to them.

I will agree with you on that.

The ref probably bought his kids a new Man utd home strip for their birthdays, and has the annual calender on his kitchen wall.

Never a penalty in a million years, and never a sending off. wasn't two footed, and only warranted a yellow.

Only criticsim I do have is, had we had Kuyt, Maxi and Bellamy today, we would be a lot more effective in the final third.

Borini, Allen, etc etc. Totally Ineffective. These are average at best.

We have played EXACTLY the same for the first five games, ineffective in the final third.

These players might fool you lot, but they don't fool me.

This is on Rodgers shoulders.

The had hardly any possession until the sending off, we were controlling the game. Our in ability to convert possession into clear cut chances is not down to Allen and Borini, it's down to whatever mess occured between the owners and Rogers which led to us letting Carroll go without getting a replacement. And he's since even come out and said he wouldn't have let him go. So how exactly is it on Rogers' shoulders

Why do you keep harping on about the same point?

Allen inneffective? - are you watching the same games? he is running our midfield

i'll agree Borini is struggling though

overall though i think things are coming together and results will follow - may not be the best season this year but i think the right foundations are being put in place

Rogers needs some luck.....and it dont look like he is going to get any.

Nail on the head Norfolk Red foundations are definitely being put in place, i think we are getting stronger in the new way of playing and people like Raheem and Suso look like they fit into that very well.
I was impressed by how comfortable Suso looked on the ball, we all know how desperate we are for and an effective striker in January i think the added presure is not helping Suarez.
Borini looks a little out of place playing out wide, ideally he would be cover and substitute for us.

Allen will be a cracking player for us over the next few years, that is pretty obvious in my opinion. It will definitely help when Lucas is back to run the defensive side of our midfiel,. I think Allen has a lot more to add going forward, but that will depend hugely on a new striking addition.

Time will tell it's a transitional period though there has to be better finishing in front of goal.

I'll be interested to see what team he picks at West Brom on wednesday. Will he keep Suarez in and take the competition seriously like Kenny did?

The Norwich game next saturday is a big one.

alwayslfc » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:12 pm wrote:I partly agree with Mourinho that BR can't win the PL with Liverpool. I agree partly not because we have lousy players or manager but we have owners who have not much money to invest. So Jose, you're wrong in the sense that the root problem are our owners, not our manager or our players, period.

I feel sorry for Brandon. Look, he has to deal with lack of funds to invest, now we're in relegation zone and luck is not on our side. Our first 3 home games have been against top sides. Unless we have a proven goal scorer in the team, it will be championship football next season or a long relegation battle this season.

you should be given a life ban for that comment.

i remembered kenny's first game in charge of us in his 2nd spell against manyoo in the FA cup.
gerrard was sent off for a similar 50-50 tackle, agger conceded a penalty and the ref was howard-f cking-webb.

similar situation today, we totally played them out of the park even with 10 men. a draw will be a fair result.
rogers got his tactics right today, got his men fired out. we were unlucky today. the ref totally disrespected the memories of the 96
by corrupting the game today.

i want to see how this team bounce by from this.

Well what can you say.

Ive written off this half of the season, lets just try and get mid table then maybe sign some players in Jan.

tubby » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:34 pm wrote:The had hardly any possession until the sending off, we were controlling the game. Our in ability to convert possession into clear cut chances is not down to Allen and Borini, it's down to whatever mess occured between the owners and Rogers which led to us letting Carroll go without getting a replacement. And he's since even come out and said he wouldn't have let him go. So how exactly is it on Rogers' shoulders

Why do you keep harping on about the same point?

Stop blaming me tubby!  And stop blaming the owners!  Letting Carroll go was Brendans' decision!? I would have kept him and used him as the target man!

Stop avoiding Brendans' responsibility/

NorfolkRed » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:37 pm wrote:Allen inneffective? - are you watching the same games? he is running our midfield

i'll agree Borini is struggling though

They don't create any chances!??

The Hustler » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:54 pm wrote:

tubby » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:34 pm wrote:The had hardly any possession until the sending off, we were controlling the game. Our in ability to convert possession into clear cut chances is not down to Allen and Borini, it's down to whatever mess occured between the owners and Rogers which led to us letting Carroll go without getting a replacement. And he's since even come out and said he wouldn't have let him go. So how exactly is it on Rogers' shoulders

Why do you keep harping on about the same point?

Stop blaming me tubby!  And stop blaming the owners!  Letting Carroll go was Brendans' decision!? I would have kept him and used him as the target man!

Stop avoiding Brendans' responsibility/

rodgers has made some poor decisions since he arrived but he has got balls, to throw suso on at half time took real bottle.
i`ve been critical of him myself but he won me over today, he`s a new manager who was staring down the barrell today of our worst start in over a century and yet he had the bottle to bring an attacker on (for his debut) when we`d just gone down to 10 men against united? 
anyone else would have flooded the team with defenders and tried to hang on for the draw.
i f**king love that attitude and i love the attitude of shelvey as well.

I question whether Brendan knows what he is fully doing right now.  He probably doesn't even know.