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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:12 am

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Kharhaz wrote:I don't think you can blame Pearce here. Gerrard wants to play for England and if he is fit, then he will insist on it.

I have no idea why he does. He never looks happy with them. I guess playing at international tournaments gives greater exposure to players, but besides that theres no other reason.

Wearing the liver bird on his chest is the pinnacle for him so he needs to f**k this england nonsense off in the summer (sooner would be better)

How many caps has he got now? 91?
I think hes trying to make it to a hundred before he spews it?
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Postby damjan193 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:57 pm

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I like the "what's the matter?" look on Dirk's face. It shows he cares for his teammates and for the club :).
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Postby Aussie Style » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:18 pm

Surprised;

@OptaJoe: 6 - Liverpool haven't won any of the six Premier League games that Steven Gerrard has started this season. Waiting.
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:22 pm

Gerrard was never ever gonna be made captain last night. The reason being Stuart Pearce knew that Stevie was only going to play for half an hour and why should he make him captain so that when he comes off it's a game of 'pass the armband'. Nah, play Stevie for 30 mins and move along.

Stevie is not 100% since his op. He's playing but he's not playing like Steven Gerrard, not just yet. :cool:
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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:12 pm

any word on his injury?
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Postby Greavesie » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:30 pm

7_Kewell wrote:any word on his injury?

not a lot, Kenny just said we'll assess it tomorrow, I wouldn't bank on him playing. Might be a blessing though, with our midfield set-up the way it is, Spearing is more suited to being where Gerrard would be anyway. Against Arsenal I'm sure Jay would be fine, hassle them, break up their triangles, pass to a red shirt.
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Postby Reg » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:32 pm

Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish won't blame Stuart Pearce for Steven Gerrard injury on England duty

Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish has refused to criticise England's caretaker manager Stuart Pearce after Steven Gerrard was injured against Holland on Wednesday night.

01 Mar 2012.

Gerrard had played 120 minutes in the Carling Cup triumph over Cardiff on Sunday and was back at Wembley a little over 72 hours later.

He was named in England's starting line-up but lasted just 32 minutes before coming off complaining of a hamstring problem.

Liverpool have yet to assess the extent of the problem, as the players are not due back at the club's Melwood training ground until later.

"Until we know exactly what has happened it is difficult for us to presume anything," said Dalglish.

"I have fantastic respect for 'Pearcey' - he played for us (under Dalglish at Newcastle).

"He is a really straight, honest guy so I don't think he would do anything harmful to the football club".

While Dalglish remains optimistic over Gerrard, the Scot is facing the prospect of Daniel Agger missing matches in what is a busy month.

The Denmark centre-back withdrew from international duty after cracking a rib against Cardiff on Sunday and is set for a spell on the sidelines.

"He's got a fractured rib, so maybe it will be a few weeks," added Dalglish.
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Postby tubby » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:58 pm

Well I :censored: do. What a knob that Pierce. Why play him after the game on the weekend?
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:00 am

tubby wrote:Well I :censored: do. What a knob that Pierce. Why play him after the game on the weekend?

Gerrard should have said he was fu'cked
It was his choice
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Postby red till i die!! » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:16 am

the sooner he's done with that lot the better and hopefully after the euro's he will be.
i dont even think he will start for them in the tournament ahead of parker or fat frank especially if twitchy face is any where near the set up.
fingers crossed that he wont be out for too long and i know he hasnt been on top form but its his leadership that the team will miss.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:32 am

red till i die!! wrote:the sooner he's done with that lot the better and hopefully after the euro's he will be.
i dont even think he will start for them in the tournament ahead of parker or fat frank especially if twitchy face is any where near the set up.
fingers crossed that he wont be out for too long and i know he hasnt been on top form but its his leadership that the team will miss.

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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:40 am

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Harry Redknapp’s first task will be to find the perfect role for Steven Gerrard

What a waste. On Wednesday night, Steven Gerrard won his 90th cap for England. But how many has he enjoyed? How many have we enjoyed?

His international career spans 13 seasons and yet he could retire from international football this summer with no sense that we ever came close to making the best use of him.

This is the heroic captain of Liverpool, a Champions League winner, coveted by Manchester United and targeted twice by José Mourinho at Chelsea. A player whom international team-mates do not hesitate to elevate, alongside Wayne Rooney, into the world-class category.

But output for England? David Beckham never won an international trophy but there was a sense of a player who had given his all and felt enriched by the experience. Have we seen even ten games when fretful, frowning Gerrard pulled on that white shirt and performed like bold, majestic Stevie G?

Against Holland on Wednesday night, we saw Gerrard’s international career in microcosm. Even before the game he was overlooked for the captaincy, a decision that is known to have riled him, not least in how the news was delivered by Stuart Pearce.

So he felt undervalued, as he has so many times for England. In 2008, he famously complained that he had been used only five times in 68 games in his favourite position of central midfield. In his mind, the number of times he has been properly deployed will still be short of double figures.

He was given an ill-defined role as No 10 and never looked at ease, spraying a few failed “Hollywood” passes before limping off after 32 minutes. Wearyingly familiar.

How depressing it is to think that Gerrard’s album of England highlights is so thin. He scored the best goal of the night in the famous 5-1 victory over Germany in 2001 but never made the 2002 World Cup finals because of injury.

He was top scorer for England in the 2006 finals with, er, two goals but against Portugal in that quarter-final shoot-out went jellylegged over his penalty.

He was voted by the fans as England’s player of the year only once, in 2007, but that was the most disastrous year in recent memory. On Merseyside, they point to mis-management and it is part of the story. Sven-Göran Eriksson tried to cram his best players into one midfield and, in the awkward partnership with Frank Lampard, it was generally Gerrard who felt like the misfit.

What if Nicky Butt or Owen Hargreaves had been picked instead, releasing Gerrard? What if, indeed.
Capello used him at inside left at the 2010 World Cup finals and, again, we saw the shadow of the player who reluctantly accepted being shunted around with Liverpool but has never really shed a dislike of it in England’s misfiring teams. “My game suffers when my position is changed,” he once said. “I’m a central midfielder and in the big games, I want to play in the middle.”

He has so rarely been given that role, but Gerrard also has to take responsibility. Rafael Benítez was not the first observer to believe that Gerrard epitomised a classic English trait, of wanting to do too much. The desire to be the rampaging, box-to-box hero may be admirable but it is also naive.

It is a sorry story — for him and for England — so it is probably unrealistic to hope for a happy ending.
At 31, Gerrard is openly speculating about international retirement. “It’s something I am going to have to sit down and think about after the Euros,” he told one newspaper last week.

Can Harry Redknapp coax one last, upbeat hurrah? While the England manager-elect is a great admirer of Scott Parker, the expectation is that Redknapp would make Gerrard his captain, unlike the past four managers.

You wonder why Gerrard might want it, given that spells of leadership coincided with the disastrous defeats in Euro 2008 qualification and the dismal World Cup in South Africa but anything, it seems, to make him happy.
More important is whether Redknapp can fit Gerrard into a balanced midfield. He is no sitting player and England need one, while Jack Wilshere, if fit, is a must on the teamsheet. Gerrard would be best suited at right midfield in a 4-3-3 system, but, like everyone else, he must see what team shape arrives with the new regime. Given everything that has gone before, it is hard to think that Gerrard waits with optimism. The first challenge to Redknapp, then, is to unlock the rare talent of Stevie G before it disappears.
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Postby fivecups » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:10 am

Thommo's perm wrote:
tubby wrote:Well I :censored: do. What a knob that Pierce. Why play him after the game on the weekend?

Gerrard should have said he was fu'cked
It was his choice

He shouldn't get the choice. He's always wanted to play in every match, I admire him for it. But, anyone with the smallest amount of common sense knows that Gerrard shouldn't play 3 days after a prolonged cup final. It's absolute madness. Pearce shouldn't have played him. Kenny should have fought tooth and nail to stop it. If he's out for a week or too they all got away with it.
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:22 am

if i was gerrard i would have f##ked them off that time they made him travel all the way down to london so the f.a medical staff could assess themselves wether he was injured or not.
england were practically calling gerrard and LFC liars, could you imagine them doing that to ferguson?
gerrard should have called it a day then.
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Postby The Good Yank » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:15 am

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:if i was gerrard i would have f##ked them off that time they made him travel all the way down to london so the f.a medical staff could assess themselves wether he was injured or not.
england were practically calling gerrard and LFC liars, could you imagine them doing that to ferguson?
gerrard should have called it a day then.

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't that when Shrek and Druggie were both excused at that same time, but the FA made the big deal about Gerrard?
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