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by **tubby** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:41 pm

As mentioned it is pretty cheeky to come out and say you cannot guarantee you will stay beyond the year after only just signing a new contract. Just goes to show the players hold too much power these days. I don't think he will end up leaving but it has left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth.

by **Ciggy** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:48 pm

The reason he wants to leave is because of that 69 year old dinosaur fossil of a goalie coach Roys brought with him, he can just about walk never mind train Pepe.

Its a no brainer Roy's trainer to stay or Pepe to leave hmmmmmmm..............

by **tubby** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:53 pm

Ciggy wrote:The reason he wants to leave is because of that 69 year old dinosaur fossil of a goalie coach Roys brought with him, he can just about walk never mind train Pepe.

Its a no brainer Roy's trainer to stay or Pepe to leave hmmmmmmm..............

I really hope we do not lose any players just so the club can stick with Roy for a bit longer. Makes no sense at all. Pepe is as vital to the club as Fernando.

by **bigmick** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:54 pm

Leaving aside the silliness for a second, I won't hold it against Pepe that he's made little rumblings. Signing the contract isn't significant these days either, except for the fact obviously that if he does go we'd get a huge fee. Thats' the way football is these days, for the top players the contract for the club is absolutely gold. I'm still not 100% convinced Rooney will stay at Man Utd for instance, but now he's signed a new contract they're laughing whichever way it goes.

The good thing about Pepe and the defence he is playing behind, is that we have conceded three goals in our last five matches. When you consider that those matches included away trips to Naples (where we fielded a team of kids), away at Bolton (who are unbeaten at Home and stuffed four past Spurs at the weekend) and a match against Chelsea (who were averaging three goals a game or something ridiculous), it puts it all into perspective.

That's what's needed around these parts, a little bit of perspective.

by **bigmick** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:56 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Ciggy wrote:The reason he wants to leave is because of that 69 year old dinosaur fossil of a goalie coach Roys brought with him, he can just about walk never mind train Pepe.

Its a no brainer Roy's trainer to stay or Pepe to leave hmmmmmmm..............

I really hope we do not lose any players just so the club can stick with Roy for a bit longer. Makes no sense at all. Pepe is as vital to the club as Fernando.

No worries on that score Bav. If the senior players don't want to play for the manager, they'll move the manager on. It's always been the case.

It happened to Scholari at Chelsea, and it happened to our previous manager as well. Once the players don't want to play for you anymore, it's all over.

by **lakes10** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:11 pm

bigmick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Ciggy wrote:The reason he wants to leave is because of that 69 year old dinosaur fossil of a goalie coach Roys brought with him, he can just about walk never mind train Pepe.

Its a no brainer Roy's trainer to stay or Pepe to leave hmmmmmmm..............

I really hope we do not lose any players just so the club can stick with Roy for a bit longer. Makes no sense at all. Pepe is as vital to the club as Fernando.

No worries on that score Bav. If the senior players don't want to play for the manager, they'll move the manager on. It's always been the case.

It happened to Scholari at Chelsea, and it happened to our previous manager as well. Once the players don't want to play for you anymore, it's all over.

yer think it happend at this clob once.......oh sh1t i should not have said that

by **Reg** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:33 pm

In all fairness Pepe's made it quite clear he signed because of Wafa and not for a questionable replacement. Seems to be his biggest bone.

by **woof woof !** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:59 pm

Well, if I were to believe all of Pepe's "comments" it would seem that some of our players, particularly the Spanish one's, were drawn to the club as much by the prospect of playing for Rafa Benitez as it was for LFC itself. Not surprised that with Rafa gone some may be re-assessing their future.

One of the biggest problems with signing "foreign" stars is it's always gonna be the question of their motivation for joining us in the first place.

Understandable if they're here just to "win" things and although disappointing we shouldn't be surprised if they decide to maybe b'ugger off when it looks as though it'll be a long long time before we do.

by **parchpea** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:10 pm

Dont know why they cant just play footy and keep their gobs shut over this sort of thing. If he wants away just let the Agent earn his corn and put the feelers out and meantime do your job and say you love the club and dont have any intention of leaving. You can be too honest and it really doesnt help anyone does it, doesnt help the fans, the manager, the owners or the football club in general. All it does is cause debate and arguments and a load of heat on everyone so best to button it and crack on playing in goal until you have made a decision and deal in private.

by **tubby** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:38 pm

In forcing out Rafa this was always going to be a possibility no matter how much some choose to deny. Pepe is a senior player and if he says others feel the same then Tom Werner and John Henry need to act swiftly and accordingly. This is what happens when you don't replace the manager with someone of an equal reputation.

Hopefully they will hang on till the summer at the very least when we will maybe looking for a new manager.

by **dawson99** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:40 pm

If a player is gonna throw a hissy fit and isnt playing for the club anyway.. then sell. that simple. but its all talk anyways. he aint going anywhere. 4 wins no the trot, hes staying

by **bigmick** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:23 pm

bavlondon wrote:In forcing out Rafa this was always going to be a possibility

True. Mind you, if they hadn't forced him out it would have been a certainty, so it was a gamble worth taking.

by **tubby** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:34 pm

bigmick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:In forcing out Rafa this was always going to be a possibility

True. Mind you, if they hadn't forced him out it would have been a certainty, so it was a gamble worth taking.

That doesn't really make any sense Mick. You are implying that players would have walked out had he stayed on and yet we are pretty much hearing from a players mouth the opposite.

The only player I concede wanted Rafa out before was Carra, but he has already shown to be a sly one in that respect.

Just admit it mate, some players were as much attracted to playing under Benitez as playing for Liverpool Football Club and now he has been replaced by someone not half has good and they are laying their cards out.

by **dawson99** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:36 pm

bavlondon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:In forcing out Rafa this was always going to be a possibility

True. Mind you, if they hadn't forced him out it would have been a certainty, so it was a gamble worth taking.

That doesn't really make any sense Mick. You are implying that players would have walked out had he stayed on and yet we are pretty much hearing from a players mouth the opposite.

The only player I concede wanted Rafa out before was Carra, but he has already shown to be a sly one in that respect.

Just admit it mate, some players were as much attracted to playing under Benitez as playing for Liverpool Football Club and now he has been replaced by someone not half has good they are laying their cards out.

not half as good? You really have to bring that up in EVERY thread mate? We get it, you're not a fan.

Its all conjecture sure, but we know the players werent happy with Rafa, and players will use anything as an excuse to go for more money.

Lets move back to talking about Pepe. Hes class, he needs a stable front 4 though to work at his best but hes won us mroe games than most, and you can tell by the fist pumps hes locing playing for Liverpool, no matter what manager hes playing under

by **lakes10** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:42 pm

bavlondon wrote:In forcing out Rafa this was always going to be a possibility no matter how much some choose to deny. Pepe is a senior player and if he says others feel the same then Tom Werner and John Henry need to act swiftly and accordingly. This is what happens when you don't replace the manager with someone of an equal reputation.

Hopefully they will hang on till the summer at the very least when we will maybe looking for a new manager.

ok so what happens if we go onto win the fa cup and get into the cl this year? still going to sack Roy?

what if we almost win the fa cup and get into the cl or 5th spot still going to sack him?

bit unfair if you ask me lol

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