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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:01 am

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“We don’t want you, Kenny,”  came the reply from Christian and the chairman. Fine. That’s their *prerogative. They explained they had different plans for me, a position with greater longevity.

“We want you for a role at the club that would be for longer than the tenure of the manager,” the board told me.


Interesting perspective from the minds of the suits that are running the club. Before even appointing a man and seeing whether he succeeds or not, the "board" seemed to have already decided that the job of manager was not a long term one  ???

I also saw that, but I could give them the benefit of doubt seeing as no Liverpool manager has stayed longer than 6 years since Bob Paisley. Also in the modern game, Moyes, Ferguson and Wenger are the only managers in the entire football league who have been at their club for over 6 years.

Of course once a manager leaves they can always go back into the boardroom / academy staff etc. – but I can see their point of view if they wanted Kenny as a long term ambassador for the club, without going through the rigors of management.

Of course I don’t actually AGREE with that sentiment, and was one of those that would have loved him back at the helm, but I can see the other sides point of view

My sentiments exactly. Its not unusual for managers at the top level to leave a club after five years or so.
Theres nothing suspicious about that statement, just a long term committment to kenny being involved with the club.
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Postby maguskwt » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:36 pm

What an opportunity lost. Kenny would have been a perfect appointment and I'm sure even if we have new owners coming in he would have kept his job. Who are purslow and broughton to decide what's good for lfc? They don't have the qualification nor credibility to make these decisions.
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Postby Reg » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:39 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
“We don’t want you, Kenny,”  came the reply from Christian and the chairman. Fine. That’s their *prerogative. They explained they had different plans for me, a position with greater longevity.

“We want you for a role at the club that would be for longer than the tenure of the manager,” the board told me.


Interesting perspective from the minds of the suits that are running the club. Before even appointing a man and seeing whether he succeeds or not, the "board" seemed to have already decided that the job of manager was not a long term one  ???

Yeah but this is what I was saying at the time, that the owners/board wouldnt risk exposing Kenny as he's earmarked for a Bobby Charlton embassadorial role at the club. Unfortunately I have to agree with the assessment, short term sacrifice but long term benefit.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:21 pm

maguskwt wrote:What an opportunity lost. Kenny would have been a perfect appointment and I'm sure even if we have new owners coming in he would have kept his job. Who are purslow and broughton to decide what's good for lfc? They don't have the qualification nor credibility to make these decisions.

Kenny would have been a disaster, with him quiting within 6 months and leaving the club completely.
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Postby In and Out » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:45 pm

Just to change the record, I've just seen the Birmingham game and I personally don't think we were as bad as some made out. I was going by what members on here said and you'd of thought we were that s.*i*e that even Barnet would have given us a good game.

Hodgson must drop Skertel (he was fecking woeful IMO). When that ball is swinging in the air (box bound) Skertel becomes a proper liability he looses his man and gets drawn to the ball and was caught out on numerous occasions. Reina shouldn't have had to make them saves (especially Jeromes first one). Poulsen looked okay decent in possesion I can't see Lucas and him playing too many games together once Meireles plays. Like Hodgson said afterwards he's still in the phase of getting the players what he wants them to do.

My main worry is central defence at the mo above anything else, that's got to be sorted along with a settled back four and the goals up the other end will come I reckon.
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Postby In and Out » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:54 am

ROY HODGSON has warned there is no quick fix to Liverpool’s worrying start to the season as he prepared to ring the changes in Europe once again this evening.

The Anfield outfit came in for some strong criticism after their stuttering start to the Premier League campaign continued with a dismal goalless draw at Birmingham City last Sunday.

It kept Hodgson’s side in the bottom half of the embryonic league table with just five points from four games, already seven points adrift of leaders Chelsea.

Hodgson will rotate his resources when his side begin their Europa League Group K campaign by hosting Romanian side Steaua Bucharest this evening. And the Liverpool manager admits it will take time to impose his philosophy during a “transitional” period for a new-look squad.

When asked when he believes the team will be at optimum form, Hodgson said: “I don’t know. I’m not unhappy with what the players have done. They are working very hard and trying hard to do the right things.

“We’ll get better but I’m not prepared to set a timescale. We need to be more creative, we need to be better defensively, we need to be better at set plays. We need to be better at all the things we work at. We do as much as we can in training. But it is still a newish team and it will take some time before we can sit back and say we are firing on all cylinders. I am only confirming that of course it is a time of transition, which is always a difficult period. Every transition is difficult, even if there are no changes in the club itself.”

Hodgson added: “I came from a team where I had been for two-and-a-half years with the same team, same players and same ideas and same philosophy. Now I am at a team where I am trying to put a team together and put together a philosophy.

“Everything is new all the time and every training session and match is a learning curve and I will learn from those things. I have a very good, receptive group of players with talent. All of these games are important steps towards becoming a better team.”

As in the narrow home win over West Bromwich Albion a fortnight earlier, Liverpool struggled to create chances against Birmingham and have netted only twice in the top-flight this season.

And Hodgson said: “The style of play will get better. Birmingham was not one of our better games. But the style of play wasn’t a problem against Arsenal and that was the same style we played against Birmingham. I don’t take notice of that kind of criticism. Every time we play and win, people will say fantastic, great style, and it we play and draw or lose, people will say bad style. It’s as simple as that.

“There is no change in our style from the start of the season when people enjoyed watching us in the opening Europa League games and against Arsenal. Nothing has changed other than the fact we have lost one or two players through injury.”

No Liverpool manager has won his first five games in European competition, a landmark Hodgson will reach should his team triumph this evening.

And the Anfield manager is prepared to follow the lead of Sir Alex Ferguson and make wholesale changes ahead of Sunday’s visit to Old Trafford.

“What we will do is pretty much what Sir Alex did on Tuesday,” said Hodgson. “We will look at the squad, look at who is fit and raring to go in the game and players who you think can possibly win the game, and we will put that team on the field.

“If there are changes and the team doesn’t do well everyone will turn round and say you should have played the same XI. But if you play the same XI and lose then people will say you shouldn’t have done it as you have a big game on Sunday.”

Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher are among those likely to be rested, with Joe Cole, Jay Spearing, Ryan Babel, Martin Kelly, David Ngog and Daniel Agger all vying for a starting role.

Raul Meireles, the £11.5million signing from Porto last month, could make his first start in central midfield, but Fabio Aurelio (Achilles) and Dirk Kuyt (shoulder) both remain sidelined.

TONIGHT’S officials are from Spain, with Cesar Muniz Fernandez the referee

[I think this should ease the mind of some who thinks Roy is truly happy with our results and performances, given time I think he'll do a decent job]

AS Liverpool’s players trudged from the St Andrew’s turf on Sunday afternoon, there was little glimpse of a smile on their collectively stern faces.

But Daniel Agger is convinced the laughter has returned to the training ground at Melwood since the arrival of Roy Hodgson.

Regaining the feel-good factor has been a buzz phrase around the club ever since Hodgson’s appointment as successor to Rafael Benitez sparked what Liverpool hoped would be a turning point in a summer of disillusionment.

Results on the pitch have pointed to the fact it will take time for the Anfield outfit to truly replicate the form that made them competitive for much of the Spaniard’s reign.

But away from the playing field, Denmark international Agger believes the change in players, coaching staff and training methods has already started to have a positive effect.

“It’s a new team with new players, young players, new staff,” says the defender. “You can see on people’s faces they’re a lot more happy.

“The training sessions are different. When you get a new training session, new staff, new methods, it gives more energy somehow.

“Obviously the sessions have to be good and in the right way. But for me it’s important for a team to be happy to play football. For me personally it’s important to be happy to play football. I can perform better and I think it’s the same for everybody.”

When asked if he felt the squad had grown stale under Benitez, the 25-year-old adds: “I think we have to look at the future not the past so I don’t think it’s relevant.

“In every training session we focus on the future, we don’t look at the past.”

The recent past, though, has seen Agger pushed into an unaccustomed role in Liverpool’s defence.

With injuries having forced the Dane to become a makeshift left-back during the death throes of Benitez’s reign, Agger has found himself still in the position at the start of the Hodgson era.

[I think GBYS harped on about the lack of apparent atmos amongst the players, for Agger the atmosphere is better so that should lay this last little fallacy to rest]
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Postby bigmick » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:00 am

I read an interview with Torres yesterday as well where he described Roy as a "fantastic manager". All words of course, but it does appear at least that the camp is a little happier. I'm in agreement with In and Out as well, we were nowhere near as bad as some on here made out. We absolutely bossed the last 20 minutes and could have won it. It reminded me very much of the Aston Villa game last season, except here ther ball didn't ricochet to Torres with ten seconds left, and we didn't all high five each other afterwards.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:36 am

Actions mean more than words - it's nice to see they are having lovely training sessions and all smiling - we would be great if they gave out 3 points for lovely happy training sessions , let's have lovely happy games where we get goals, chances and 3 points . It is good thou that the player arent living in the past - hopefully some posters can follow suit. The bit I was most worried about was Hodgson alluding to the set up for the Brum game being the same as the Arsenal game - I hope that's not his model for the future and how he sees us setting up .
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Postby Ben Patrick » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:37 am

I was watching highlights of the game last night on ESPN and then watched the second half again on the LFC channel as well and strangely it didnt seem as bad.
Torres should have had a clear penalty when Johnson took him out.
Reina did make 2 great saves though that where world class so i can see why the press jumped on it.
I still feel we should be more positive with our selections and tactics.
No Gerrard pushed on when what's behind wont get the ball to him quick enough.
I think that why Gerrard further forward worked so well when we had Alonso was the speed in which Xabi got the ball to him.
At this moment in time with Lucas and Poulsen behind him he doesnt get the ball early enough so when he gets it its often with back to goal and plenty of men back.
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:40 am

The players look like a shower of miserable b@stards tbh.
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Postby tonyeh » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:49 am

Nah lads, we were bloody awful and IMHO, lucky not to have lost that match. But for Pepe, that could have ended 2-0 to Brum.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:55 am

We may of seemed better in the last 20 mins and had a bit more possession but will still created No clearcut chances - as for penalties we were lucky not to get punished for two pushes from Johnson in the box that could of easily been penalties
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Postby In and Out » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:11 am

Benny The Noon wrote:Actions mean more than words - it's nice to see they are having lovely training sessions and all smiling - we would be great if they gave out 3 points for lovely happy training sessions , let's have lovely happy games where we get goals, chances and 3 points . It is good thou that the player arent living in the past - hopefully some posters can follow suit. The bit I was most worried about was Hodgson alluding to the set up for the Brum game being the same as the Arsenal game - I hope that's not his model for the future and how he sees us setting up .

Jesus Christ.

You were the moaner moaning about a lack of togetherness and looking miserable. Now that has been laid to rest your moving the goal posts and continue to make sly digs at any given.

Apart from the 'bit that worried you the most' isn't there nothing that you thought 'hmm, this sounds good, let's hope this comes to fruition'.

You said you'd stop with the bitterness, yet it's patently clear you can't-as for living in the past that little notion sits closer to home.
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Postby In and Out » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:14 am

Benny The Noon wrote:We may of seemed better in the last 20 mins and had a bit more possession but will still created No clearcut chances - as for penalties we were lucky not to get punished for two pushes from Johnson in the box that could of easily been penalties

Off the top of my head I saw Torres spoon a b.loody good chance in the first half from a Johnson pass.
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:31 am

Ciggy wrote:The players look like a shower of miserable b@stards tbh.

how can anyone take anything you say seriousely?

your a feking disgrace of a fan  :no
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