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by **Ben Patrick** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:40 pm

shabelle50 wrote:I think it sounds like Roy believes he'll be given the push for a more high profile manager once the club is sold unless he pulls off some surprises in the trophy hunt.

why do you interpret that like that ?

Seems to me a typically honest assessment from the manager, but i dont see anything about him thinking he will be replaced if and when new owners come in from what he said.

by **Thommo's perm** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:00 pm

shabelle50 wrote:I think it sounds like Roy believes he'll be given the push for a more high profile manager once the club is sold unless he pulls off some surprises in the trophy hunt.

Hes got no chance of winning anything
Best if he goes now
:nod

by **Sabre** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:31 pm

In times of storm in the club it's always important to have someone with personality in the dressroom and ready to make sense. And by reading his words I think we have that kind of man in Hodgson.

He'll need all the support in the mean time the club get rid of the yanks.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:27 pm

Liverpool Echo 8/9/10

ROY HODGSON today challenged Dani Pacheco to build on his encouraging start to the season and show he can provide Liverpool with a potent striking option.

With Dirk Kuyt out for a month and David Ngog battling a hamstring problem, Hodgson could make the trip to Birmingham on Sunday with Fernando Torres as his sole front man.

The Spaniard is not due back at Melwood until Friday following his country's glamour friendly with Argentina, which they lost 4-1 in Buenos Aires last night.

As he played no part and will return unschathed, Torres will lead the line at St Andrews but Hodgson knows he will need options on the bench and Pacheco will be certainly be in his thoughts.

The 19-year-old has caught the eye when Hodgson has pitched him into battle so far – notably away at Trabzonspor in the Europa League.

Although there were some suggestions earlier this summer that Pacheco might have to move on, the Reds boss has confirmed he holds Pacheco in some regard – now he wants to see him flourish.

“I thought Dani did very well when he came on against Manchester City in the five or six minutes he played,” said Hodgson.

“I also thought he did very well when he came on against Trabzonspor and he made a difference. He is a player that we really believe in.

“He is young but it is great that can keep giving him these opportunities and moments on the field and I think these moments will get even longer as the season progresses.

“Now we are in the Europa League, it is good for me too that I will be able to give chances to the likes of him, (Jay) Spearing and (Jonjo) Shelvey.

“They need games and we will have plenty of opportunities in the coming months.”

Pacheco was a big hit at this summer's Under-19 European Championship and finished leading scorer with four goals during Spain's run to the final.

But now Pacheco is determined to show Hodgson his faith won't be misplaced if he decides to let him loose.

“I hope I will play a big part,” said Pacheco. “I know that I have to keep working very hard in training and I will have to take the chances that the manager will give to me.”

Fabio Aurelio, meanwhile, is making progress back to full fitness after missing the 1-0 win over West Brom; he had been taken off in the victory against Trabzonpor as a precaution.

Good signs Roy throwing down the gauntlet to the Lad and bigging him up through the media ....get the Lad in the team he's going to be class

by **metalhead** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:30 pm

if Dani turns out to be a really good player playing upfront or off torres, then we don't really need a striker, we've got danny.

Comon Pacheco lad show us you've got it.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:34 pm

metalhead wrote:if Dani turns out to be a really good player playing upfront or off torres, then we don't really need a striker, we've got danny.

Comon Pacheco lad show us you've got it.

Just chuffed he's getting the credit his talent deserves from the manager

by **Fauxy** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:12 pm

4-4-2 v birmingham?

Reina

Johnson Carra Agger Koncheskey

Maxi Gerrard Meireles Jovanovic

Pacheco
Torres

Looks good to me

Brilliant comments from Roy about Pacheco by the way.

by **Ciggy** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:07 am

To carry the subject over from the Houllier topic as its not about Roy.

People think I hate Roy but thats wrong, Ive always liked the bloke he's a gent, and has always had good things to say about Liverpool, plus he's married to a scouser

so thats fine by me.

Roy is now finding out about the constraints he is under at Liverpool under the current ownership, he probably doesnt know what the hell is going on, as they all tell nothing but lies, and broken promises. I have no doubt he wanted to buy a striker and I think he was promised the money for one the board knew Mascherano was leaving for over a year and they left it until the last minute to sell him therefore keeping the money from his sale.

The blame for us not buying a striker lays firmly at the owners, and the boards feet.

Will we win a trophy this season? Probably not.
But I wont blame Hodgson if we dont either the blame will be at the feet of those who are bleeding our club dry.

Hodgson probably doesnt know what will happen reguarding his own future either if we are taken over by some rich guy, its very difficult to tell whether he is here for the long or short term and he must think the same the way the club is in limbo.

In the past week alone he has made a few statements and is disgruntled with the owners, if he didnt realise how bad they actually where then he came into the job with his eyes wideshut, Al Fayed warned him about them, he knew that we Liverpool fans hate them, and I also believe he was told lies by Broughton & Purslow about money.

Its all a bit up in the air and when Broughton said on Hodgsons press conference he was brought in to steady the ship, thats when reality hit home for me, Ive spent over three years voiceing my concerns and worries over our future and the owners, but part of me is still in denial about the whole situation, managers past have been appointed to win trophys but now we get told from our chairman he's here to steady the ship :no

and what pissed me off even more was fans on here repeating this statement with this smiley after it

, thinking it was some sort of praise, its not praise its a friggen shit statement to make!!!

Its being disrespectful to Roy and us for starters.

And this is one of the reasons I feel that Roy is just the caretaker for the time being, no one knows what our future holds, we could go into administration in 3 weeks time, or we could be sold, or twit & tw@t could either get a new re-finance or pile even more debt on the club with the money from another lender.

The state the club finds itself is more important than the manager, players and football, worrying times ahead indeed lets just hope and pray that come October the 6th our 3 year nightmare is finally over and we can feel good, happy, excited, about Liverpool F.C. once again because at the moment its so fuckin depressing and has been for the past 3 years, the only way these storm clouds will be lifted is if someone comes along and blows these feckers back to where they came from.

by **maguskwt** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:46 am

Ciggy wrote:To carry the subject over from the Houllier topic as its not about Roy.

People think I hate Roy but thats wrong, Ive always liked the bloke he's a gent, and has always had good things to say about Liverpool, plus he's married to a scouser so thats fine by me.

Roy is now finding out about the constraints he is under at Liverpool under the current ownership, he probably doesnt know what the hell is going on, as they all tell nothing but lies, and broken promises. I have no doubt he wanted to buy a striker and I think he was promised the money for one the board knew Mascherano was leaving for over a year and they left it until the last minute to sell him therefore keeping the money from his sale.

The blame for us not buying a striker lays firmly at the owners, and the boards feet.

Will we win a trophy this season? Probably not.
But I wont blame Hodgson if we dont either the blame will be at the feet of those who are bleeding our club dry.

Hodgson probably doesnt know what will happen reguarding his own future either if we are taken over by some rich guy, its very difficult to tell whether he is here for the long or short term and he must think the same the way the club is in limbo.

In the past week alone he has made a few statements and is disgruntled with the owners, if he didnt realise how bad they actually where then he came into the job with his eyes wideshut, Al Fayed warned him about them, he knew that we Liverpool fans hate them, and I also believe he was told lies by Broughton & Purslow about money.

Its all a bit up in the air and when Broughton said on Hodgsons press conference he was brought in to steady the ship, thats when reality hit home for me, Ive spent over three years voiceing my concerns and worries over our future and the owners, but part of me is still in denial about the whole situation, managers past have been appointed to win trophys but now we get told from our chairman he's here to steady the ship and what pissed me off even more was fans on here repeating this statement with this smiley after it , thinking it was some sort of praise, its not praise its a friggen shit statement to make!!!

Its being disrespectful to Roy and us for starters.

And this is one of the reasons I feel that Roy is just the caretaker for the time being, no one knows what our future holds, we could go into administration in 3 weeks time, or we could be sold, or twit & tw@t could either get a new re-finance or pile even more debt on the club with the money from another lender.

The state the club finds itself is more important than the manager, players and football, worrying times ahead indeed lets just hope and pray that come October the 6th our 3 year nightmare is finally over and we can feel good, happy, excited, about Liverpool F.C. once again because at the moment its so fuckin depressing and has been for the past 3 years, the only way these storm clouds will be lifted is if someone comes along and blows these feckers back to where they came from.

by **In and Out** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:22 am

Ciggy wrote:To carry the subject over from the Houllier topic as its not about Roy.

People think I hate Roy but thats wrong, Ive always liked the bloke he's a gent, and has always had good things to say about Liverpool, plus he's married to a scouser so thats fine by me.

Roy is now finding out about the constraints he is under at Liverpool under the current ownership, he probably doesnt know what the hell is going on, as they all tell nothing but lies, and broken promises. I have no doubt he wanted to buy a striker and I think he was promised the money for one the board knew Mascherano was leaving for over a year and they left it until the last minute to sell him therefore keeping the money from his sale.

The blame for us not buying a striker lays firmly at the owners, and the boards feet.

Will we win a trophy this season? Probably not.
But I wont blame Hodgson if we dont either the blame will be at the feet of those who are bleeding our club dry.

Hodgson probably doesnt know what will happen reguarding his own future either if we are taken over by some rich guy, its very difficult to tell whether he is here for the long or short term and he must think the same the way the club is in limbo.

In the past week alone he has made a few statements and is disgruntled with the owners, if he didnt realise how bad they actually where then he came into the job with his eyes wideshut, Al Fayed warned him about them, he knew that we Liverpool fans hate them, and I also believe he was told lies by Broughton & Purslow about money.

Its all a bit up in the air and when Broughton said on Hodgsons press conference he was brought in to steady the ship, thats when reality hit home for me, Ive spent over three years voiceing my concerns and worries over our future and the owners, but part of me is still in denial about the whole situation, managers past have been appointed to win trophys but now we get told from our chairman he's here to steady the ship and what pissed me off even more was fans on here repeating this statement with this smiley after it , thinking it was some sort of praise, its not praise its a friggen shit statement to make!!!

Its being disrespectful to Roy and us for starters.

And this is one of the reasons I feel that Roy is just the caretaker for the time being, no one knows what our future holds, we could go into administration in 3 weeks time, or we could be sold, or twit & tw@t could either get a new re-finance or pile even more debt on the club with the money from another lender.

The state the club finds itself is more important than the manager, players and football, worrying times ahead indeed lets just hope and pray that come October the 6th our 3 year nightmare is finally over and we can feel good, happy, excited, about Liverpool F.C. once again because at the moment its so fuckin depressing and has been for the past 3 years, the only way these storm clouds will be lifted is if someone comes along and blows these feckers back to where they came from.

Yeah but you don't like him, you even stooped so low as to say that because he goes on holiday to Wales he's incompetent to manage LFC.

by **bigmick** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:26 am

For me Ciggy's post is fair enough, but it illustrates how people allow the ownership issue to overtake everything else IMHO. I will say at this point, yet again, that the owners are c...s and we all know it. That said, it wasn't the owners fault we finished seventh last season, nor was it the owners fault that the last two 20 million pound players we bought were nowhere near good enough. It would be lovely if they splashed the cash more than they do, but lets face it until the two c...s are long gone it isn't going to happen.

I do think however that in the meantime we have to make the best of it, the manager has to make the best of it. Rafa patently wasn't doing that (and he wasn't, come on lets be serious here) so I think it's legitimate to seek a replacement, and it makes sense to get somebody in who both understands English football, and who has a track record in both dealing with a crisis, AND in making less expensive players over achieve. This is where Roy comes in.

Now to the crux. It isn't Roys fault that the owners sacked Rafa, it isn't Roys fault that Rafa lost the plot, and it isn't Roys fault that the owners and Purslow/Broughton appointed him. He's got the job (rightly IMHO) and now he's got it he's barely put a foot wrong. Those who said Gerrard and Torres would leave have been proven wrong, those who said good players wouldn't come to us have been proven wrong, those who said he would be a yes man have been wrong, and those who said he wouldn't be any good in Europe likewise.

People are fully entitled to not like him, not trust him, not rate him, take the p!ss out of the way he speaks, where he holidays, how he dresses, how old he is, what his record is like, dismiss his achievements and all that. I don't particularly like it, but they are fully etitled to their opinion. All I ask though is that we try our best avoid such nonsense as Benny was giing it yesterday "he HAS to get it right over the next two matches". He's only been in charge for three league games FFS, and already some numpties are throwing their toys out of the pram. Don't rate him if you feel that way inclined based on his record, but to not rate him based on three league games (which we haven't done too badly in) is just plain bonkers.

People moaned about me moaning about Benitez, but I gave him three and a half seasons before I started getting twitchy, not three and a half weeks.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:58 am

Ciggy wrote:To carry the subject over from the Houllier topic as its not about Roy.

People think I hate Roy but thats wrong, Ive always liked the bloke he's a gent, and has always had good things to say about Liverpool, plus he's married to a scouser so thats fine by me.

Roy is now finding out about the constraints he is under at Liverpool under the current ownership, he probably doesnt know what the hell is going on, as they all tell nothing but lies, and broken promises. I have no doubt he wanted to buy a striker and I think he was promised the money for one the board knew Mascherano was leaving for over a year and they left it until the last minute to sell him therefore keeping the money from his sale.

The blame for us not buying a striker lays firmly at the owners, and the boards feet.

Will we win a trophy this season? Probably not.
But I wont blame Hodgson if we dont either the blame will be at the feet of those who are bleeding our club dry.

Hodgson probably doesnt know what will happen reguarding his own future either if we are taken over by some rich guy, its very difficult to tell whether he is here for the long or short term and he must think the same the way the club is in limbo.

In the past week alone he has made a few statements and is disgruntled with the owners, if he didnt realise how bad they actually where then he came into the job with his eyes wideshut, Al Fayed warned him about them, he knew that we Liverpool fans hate them, and I also believe he was told lies by Broughton & Purslow about money.

Its all a bit up in the air and when Broughton said on Hodgsons press conference he was brought in to steady the ship, thats when reality hit home for me, Ive spent over three years voiceing my concerns and worries over our future and the owners, but part of me is still in denial about the whole situation, managers past have been appointed to win trophys but now we get told from our chairman he's here to steady the ship and what pissed me off even more was fans on here repeating this statement with this smiley after it , thinking it was some sort of praise, its not praise its a friggen shit statement to make!!!

Its being disrespectful to Roy and us for starters.

And this is one of the reasons I feel that Roy is just the caretaker for the time being, no one knows what our future holds, we could go into administration in 3 weeks time, or we could be sold, or twit & tw@t could either get a new re-finance or pile even more debt on the club with the money from another lender.

The state the club finds itself is more important than the manager, players and football, worrying times ahead indeed lets just hope and pray that come October the 6th our 3 year nightmare is finally over and we can feel good, happy, excited, about Liverpool F.C. once again because at the moment its so fuckin depressing and has been for the past 3 years, the only way these storm clouds will be lifted is if someone comes along and blows these feckers back to where they came from.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:04 pm

Its my opinion that the next two games he has to get it right and its an opinion i will stick with .

p.s. Rafa has gone - let it gone
p.p.s he wasnt sacked :;):

by **matt_liverpool** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:11 pm

Roy has nothing to prove in next two games and doesn't have to get it right by any means. It's still early in the season to judge the guy. Even he gets it wrong in next 10 games (which he won't by the way), he has whole season to prove himself.

by **dawson99** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:12 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Its my opinion that the next two games he has to get it right and its an opinion i will stick with .

p.s. Rafa has gone - let it gone
p.p.s he wasnt sacked

ppps you arent happy unless you're moaning... that is fact no?

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