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by **LFC2007** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:12 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Yes and ? Like i said its not illegal to point out errors is it ? I did with previous manager and will do with this manager yet just like with previous manager he will get my support .

I'm really not sure you did Benny, not in the same manner as you've addressed your criticisms of Roy's first month or so in charge. In one of the quotes above, you effectively say "..how can someone with 30 years experience, and premier league experience at that, have got the tactics so wrong against Man City". In the other, you effectively say "..the LB situation is all Roy's fault". I don't believe you ever said such things about Rafa, despite an entire season of p1sspoor performances, many equally as bad as the other night. You were one of the first to highlight the fault of the players themselves (If Torres had stuck that chance away etc..), the difficulties of managing under the two owners and the last to question the methods of the manager. If someone had made similar comments about Rafa's methods, you would have been the one to confront them, and you well know it.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:34 pm

Read my last post - don't give a flying f.uck what you think now or anyone and I'm certainly no longer going to justify myself - I have explained myself for the last time and I'm sick of it now so from now on either debate the point I have made without going back to previous manager or ignore it and move on .I'm sick of having to fight a flame war every time i post an opinion .

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:50 pm

bigmick wrote:This is an odd thread with some odd posts. I think everyone should take a few days off and then come back, it does wonders for clarity of thought.

On Aquilani. He isn't/wasn't good enough to get into the team. This was the case both when Rafa was manager, when Roy is manager, and if 90% of us on here were the manager. He isn't good enough to get into the team ahead of Gerard/Masherano/Cole and Poulsen (IMHO the last one). We oughtn't to have bought him in the first place obviously, but now we have we've got to try and rescue something from the wreckage. Obviously a sell on would be the best option, but nobody wants to buy him (see earlier prognosis about how good he actually is). Therefore loaning him out isn't a bad shout. I'd prefer to flog him off obviously, but there are no buyers.

On Roy Hodgson so far. Net/Gross/take away the number you first thought of/buy someone for 20 mill and then sell him for 12 and it's only cost you 1 mill etc etc, it doesn't matter how you look at it, he hasn't got any money to work with. I'm not going to harp back to Rafa because he's gone (no seriously, he has) but I am going to hark back to some of the people on here who denied the sky was blue if it suited them. Roy has basically spent no money at all, he has persuaded Gerrard to stay, Torres to stay, has had a hand in Masherano staying, has persuaded Cole to sign and hasn't lost a game yet. On what measure exactly is he doing anything other than a decent job?

That is a bunch of bullsh!t. Aquilani has been a much better player for us than Cole, based on what I've seen so far. Ancelloti wasn't kidding when he said that Cole is not the best when it come to understanding tactics.

We're going to suffer this season because we let the most technically gifted player in the squad go.

by **LFC2007** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:56 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Read my last post - don't give a flying f.uck what you think now or anyone and I'm certainly no longer going to justify myself - I have explained myself for the last time and I'm sick of it now so from now on either debate the point I have made without going back to previous manager or ignore it and move on .I'm sick of having to fight a flame war every time i post an opinion .

Chill out.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:59 pm

Sorry but i have put up with enough sh.it over the last couple of days and it's now starting to really pis.s me off .

by **OneHotRed** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:06 pm

Rise above and dont argue back then?

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:10 pm

OneHotRed wrote:Rise above and dont argue back then?

Think it's time to just laugh mate

by **roberto green** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:32 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
OneHotRed wrote:Rise above and dont argue back then?

Think it's time to just laugh mate

by **In and Out** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:05 am

Igor Zidane wrote:Furry muff , don't worry about Bam , he's just not come out of the closet completely yet and has some issue's with it .

Igor, your two previous post were fecking spot on, keep having a word in his ear as I think he'll listen to you because he's trying ti impress.

As for this quote, it's hard battling with my sexuality and I would appreciate you kept liaisons with yourself and I quiet darling. :hearts

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:26 am

In and Out wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:Furry muff , don't worry about Bam , he's just not come out of the closet completely yet and has some issue's with it .

Igor, your two previous post were fecking spot on, keep having a word in his ear as I think he'll listen to you because he's trying ti impress.

As for this quote, it's hard battling with my sexuality and I would appreciate you kept liaisons with yourself and I quiet darling.

Thankyou sweetie and apologies if i was a tw@t with you the other week .

by **rocky29** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:35 am

Benny The Noon wrote:Read my last post - don't give a flying f.uck what you think now or anyone and I'm certainly no longer going to justify myself - I have explained myself for the last time and I'm sick of it now so from now on either debate the point I have made without going back to previous manager or ignore it and move on .I'm sick of having to fight a flame war every time i post an opinion .

benny do me a favour put the weetabix box backup pal. because thats the only part of your posts worth looking at :sleep

by **In and Out** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:20 am

Igor Zidane wrote:
In and Out wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:Furry muff , don't worry about Bam , he's just not come out of the closet completely yet and has some issue's with it .

Igor, your two previous post were fecking spot on, keep having a word in his ear as I think he'll listen to you because he's trying ti impress.

As for this quote, it's hard battling with my sexuality and I would appreciate you kept liaisons with yourself and I quiet darling.

Thankyou sweetie and apologies if i was a tw@t with you the other week .

No need Igor, I get the impression you are sincerely a nice bloke and never really meant it. Which goes without saying that when if I acted like a tw@t towards you then I apologise and didn't obviously mean it.

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:51 pm

In and Out wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
In and Out wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:Furry muff , don't worry about Bam , he's just not come out of the closet completely yet and has some issue's with it .

Igor, your two previous post were fecking spot on, keep having a word in his ear as I think he'll listen to you because he's trying ti impress.

As for this quote, it's hard battling with my sexuality and I would appreciate you kept liaisons with yourself and I quiet darling.

Thankyou sweetie and apologies if i was a tw@t with you the other week .

No need Igor, I get the impression you are sincerely a nice bloke and never really meant it. Which goes without saying that when if I acted like a tw@t towards you then I apologise and didn't obviously mean it.

Your defo still a tad gay though lash .

by **Thommo's perm** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:17 pm

I was a bit disappointed on monday. Firstly with the display and conceding such simple goals, but mostly with Roys selection and tactics. Lets be honest, Coles ban hurt us as he is the most creative player we have now, but Lucas and Ngog are at best sh'ite and at worst a liability. The whole team looked drained and frightened and none of hem deserved credit for as bad as a performance Ive seen for a while. Roy really has his work cut out to try and get the players out of Rafa mode, but he wont do it by having games like the one against city. Im not expecting miracles, but I do expect progress and to pick Ngog ahead of Babel, and then leave him on he pitch as long as he did concerned me. Roy is on probation (or even on trial if you read some of the Rafapologists posts!) and doesnt seem to have the luxury of losing too many games before the knives are out and to be honest some of the comments in the Man City Games thread are Fu*king pathetic.
Hodgson has inherited (unlike Rafa) a squad with such low confidence and expectations that they seem terrified of their own shadow. He, with our backing, has to motivate these players to play attacking, creative, winning football. He needs to break free of the "we controlled the game bu didnt win" type of bu'llshit and go for it. I will take getting beat 3-0 if we have fought and tried to win. I cant take it when we roll over and take it up up the hole without a whimper.
New balls please

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:23 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:I was a bit disappointed on monday. Firstly with the display and conceding such simple goals, but mostly with Roys selection and tactics. Lets be honest, Coles ban hurt us as he is the most creative player we have now, but Lucas and Ngog are at best sh'ite and at worst a liability. The whole team looked drained and frightened and none of hem deserved credit for as bad as a performance Ive seen for a while. Roy really has his work cut out to try and get the players out of Rafa mode, but he wont do it by having games like the one against city. Im not expecting miracles, but I do expect progress and to pick Ngog ahead of Babel, and then leave him on he pitch as long as he did concerned me. Roy is on probation (or even on trial if you read some of the Rafapologists posts!) and doesnt seem to have the luxury of losing too many games before the knives are out and to be honest some of the comments in the Man City Games thread are Fu*king pathetic.
Hodgson has inherited (unlike Rafa) a squad with such low confidence and expectations that they seem terrified of their own shadow. He, with our backing, has to motivate these players to play attacking, creative, winning football. He needs to break free of the "we controlled the game bu didnt win" type of bu'llshit and go for it. I will take getting beat 3-0 if we have fought and tried to win. I cant take it when we roll over and take it up up the hole without a whimper.
New balls please

Wrong according to you and others , Roy has inherited a squad that should have won the title last year or come close atleast . It was the manager last year not the squad remember . Don't try and re-write history, some of your other points a i agree completely with.

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