I agree with Waldo, we offer what we offer and there it is. Roy won't be doing the negotiating anyway by the looks of things, it'll be Christy the credit cruncher on the numbers, so I'm pretty confident we won't get absolutely striped on the fee.
Someone else said earlier though, and they were dead right, we DO need viable cover for Torres. We either need to develop it (Babel being the obvious candidate) or we need to buy it. I personally think I've seen enough of David N'Gog to know he isn't going to be up to it anytime soon, and he really needs to be third at most in the pecking order, probably even fourth (at best in truth).
If this French bloke is going to prove too difficult to prise away, then I'd be all up for binning the idea and moving onto someone we definately can get. Roque Santa Cruz I like and I think you'd get cheap (although he is another sick note), while even the aforementioned James Beattie didn't fill me with quite the same dread as it did some. Carlton Cole is obviously a good player but maybe too dear, while Peter Crouch's missus would probably want to move back home, and lets face it if he's got any sense wherever she goes etc etc. Kevin Doyle I'd have too, also obviously Darren Bent but he'd be too pricey now.
What we don't need is a protracted saga that we end up coming out on the wrong side of. Gabriel Hienze a few years back springs to mind. We chased him and chased him at the exclusion of everyone else, only to not get him and be fecked going into the new season.
By all means get this Frech fella if we rate him, but if it starts getting silly then feck em off.
Loic remy - New striker?
by Aussie Style » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:09 pm
bavlondon wrote:Santa Cruz is too injury prone
IIRC he is on about £140k a week aswell.
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by LFC ANIME » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:35 pm
bigmick wrote:I agree with Waldo, we offer what we offer and there it is. Roy won't be doing the negotiating anyway by the looks of things, it'll be Christy the credit cruncher on the numbers, so I'm pretty confident we won't get absolutely striped on the fee.
Someone else said earlier though, and they were dead right, we DO need viable cover for Torres. We either need to develop it (Babel being the obvious candidate) or we need to buy it. I personally think I've seen enough of David N'Gog to know he isn't going to be up to it anytime soon, and he really needs to be third at most in the pecking order, probably even fourth (at best in truth).
If this French bloke is going to prove too difficult to prise away, then I'd be all up for binning the idea and moving onto someone we definately can get. Roque Santa Cruz I like and I think you'd get cheap (although he is another sick note), while even the aforementioned James Beattie didn't fill me with quite the same dread as it did some. Carlton Cole is obviously a good player but maybe too dear, while Peter Crouch's missus would probably want to move back home, and lets face it if he's got any sense wherever she goes etc etc. Kevin Doyle I'd have too, also obviously Darren Bent but he'd be too pricey now.
What we don't need is a protracted saga that we end up coming out on the wrong side of. Gabriel Hienze a few years back springs to mind. We chased him and chased him at the exclusion of everyone else, only to not get him and be fecked going into the new season.
By all means get this Frech fella if we rate him, but if it starts getting silly then feck em off.
I like to have Connor Wickham from Ipswich. Brilliant prospect, he's a Liverpool supporter, and his favourite personnel is Fernando Torres.
Keeping the trend of snatching the future England team starters I say. In the past we seem to miss out on british talents. Doubt Roy Keane will sell him to us thou haha
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by Tim LFC » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:25 am
So apparently someone saying this should happen when Riera is sold. The club that has apparently bidded which is a big club is us. Not Arsenal since they have some major signings needed to be sorted at the back. So i'd say we're pretty certain to sign him, of course it might not happen but apparently the number 7 is reserved for Remy with cole as number 10 and Jovanovic at number 11. We shall see though.
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by Johnny Boy » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:29 am
Tim LFC wrote:So apparently someone saying this should happen when Riera is sold. The club that has apparently bidded which is a big club is us. Not Arsenal since they have some major signings needed to be sorted at the back. So i'd say we're pretty certain to sign him, of course it might not happen but apparently the number 7 is reserved for Remy with cole as number 10 and Jovanovic at number 11. We shall see though.
I did notice after Jovanovic was signed Joe was pictured on the official site wearing training gear with number 10 - after the Serb was handed the same number previously.
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by maguskwt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:14 pm
Liverpool is no longer the frontrunner... West Ham is now with apparently 13.5 million pounds and full payment... their president is announcing all these things to hike up his price i'm sure...
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by damjan193 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:51 pm
Remy for El Zhar and Plessis (probably plus the money that we offerd previously, 12 mil or so)?
http://www.goal.com/en....h-clubs
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by Tim LFC » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:39 pm
damjan193 wrote:Remy for El Zhar and Plessis (probably plus the money that we offerd previously, 12 mil or so)?
http://www.goal.com/en....h-clubs
I hope so because goodness knows what Plessis and El Zhar are just average or poor players, might do better in the french league. Still hope it works, we desperately need players for the EL! And a left back really quick as well.
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by 7_Kewell » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:27 am
Aussie Style wrote:bavlondon wrote:Santa Cruz is too injury prone
IIRC he is on about £140k a week aswell.
Man city make me laugh a lot
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by bigmick » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:31 am
Tim LFC wrote:According to a french TV program, new show they say we've signed Remy and Taiwo? I have no idea if this is BS but it's been doing the rounds a bit.
I have no idea if it's true or not either mate. That said, lets be totally truthful here it's almost certainly b0ll0cks.
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by aCe' » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:24 am
Loic Remy (Nice)
Age: 23
Height: 6ft
Appearances, 2009/10: 34 games (14 goals, 3 assists)
International caps: 1
In one of the summer's most intriguing transfer battles, Liverpool and West Ham are bidding head to head for young French striker Loic Remy . At the time of writing, the latest reports suggest that West Ham have offered £13million to Remy's club Nice, who are waiting for the Reds to respond.
Is the 23-year-old worth that kind of money? Assuming that he does end up on either Merseyside or in East London, will Remy be a success?
Excellent talent, could struggle physically in the Premier League
There is no question that Remy has plenty of talent and has earned the right to take a step up from Nice. The statistics tell their own story. Nice are traditionally a mid-table side and last season finished in fifteenth place in Ligue Un. Yet, Remy notched fourteen goals last term and eleven the season before, not a bad return while playing for an average team. He even forced himself into Raymond Domenech's France side, making his debut against Nigeria last summer, following impressive displays for the under-21s.
In terms of style, much has been made of Remy's similarity to Thierry Henry. Both have a similar rangy physique, blistering pace and the ability to glide past opponents. However, unlike Henry, if Remy does come to England, he will not have experienced top flight football outside of France. Henry had already won a World Cup and tasted life in Serie A with Juventus by the time he arrived at Arsenal and still took time to settle into his stride. Remy's two seasons at Nice, excellent though they have been, might not be enough of a schooling for the rigours of the Premier League.
The one thing missing from Remy's game is physical strength. Foreign players often comment on the increased physical demands of the Premier League and although some, like Carlos Tevez, evidently relish the challenge, one wonders if it is something that Remy can handle. Both Liverpool and West Ham would have to be careful to protect Remy and would not be able to utilize him as a lone striker in the kind of role that Wayne Rooney played to perfection for Manchester United last season.
Remy shows his best coming from wide, on counter-attack
Tom Williams, who covers French football for AFP, believes that Remy is most effective when given the freedom to roam wide on the right or left and is particularly dangerous in a counter-attacking team.
Williams has said, "At Nice, he played from the right, and he's played from the left for the under-21s,
"It's like how Wenger got the best out of Henry when he moved him to the left and gave him the freedom of that half of the pitch. That's the kind of thing that Remy would need. It might take a bit of time to find out what his best position is.
"Nice set themselves up as a counter-attacking team, so there was always room for him to run into and space for him to exploit."
Anfield future? Remy might not complement Fernando Torres
It could be argued that Remy's natural attributes would be an asset to any team, but how would he fit into Roy Hodgson's plans at Anfield? Much will depend on whether Fernando Torres remains at Liverpool, but this week's signing of Joe Cole must have improved the chances of that happening.
Assuming that Torres does stay on Merseyside, Remy would be signed to play alongside him, although he would be competing with another summer signing, Milan Jovanovic , for that role. In truth though, Jovanovic would be better suited partner to Torres than Remy.
Like Torres, Remy has pace, is able to smoothly beat defenders and is happy to drift out wide. If Liverpool are looking for a foil for Torres, it is hard to see how Remy would enhance the Spaniard's game. Jovanovic also has plenty of pace, but naturally provides much more of a bustling, battling style. Torres might well relish the prospect of a talented strike partner like Jovanovic, who can score goals himself, but is also able to do some of the 'dirty work' which could well result in chances for 'El Nino'.
Upton Park future? Remy the opportunist could flourish
With West Ham seemingly chasing most available players, it is difficult to know what Avram Grant's squad might look like next season. However, in terms of attacking options, Carlton Cole will likely remain the main man with new signing Frederic Piquionne ear-marked to play a role too. The addition of Remy would certainly raise questions over whether youngsters such as Zavon Hines, Freddie Sears and Frank Nouble , who has impressed recently with the England under-19s, will play any meaningful role next season.
In all likelihood, Remy would battle Piquionne to partner Cole and it's a pairing that could pay dividends. Cole provided a rare bright spot for West Ham last season, scoring plenty of goals early on and then showing later on in the campaign that he could also be a goal provider, linking up well with Ilan.
West Ham will hope that they do not struggle as they did last season, but they will likely find themselves under the cosh at times. Having Remy as an outlet could be a very effective weapon on the break. He is also the kind of striker who could really make the most of Carlton Cole 's more physical game, feeding off the England international's ability to win the ball high up the pitch.
Verdict: £13million is a lot to pay for a striker with limited experience, but Remy has bags of talent which would be put to better use for the Hammers than at Anfield.
Age: 23
Height: 6ft
Appearances, 2009/10: 34 games (14 goals, 3 assists)
International caps: 1
In one of the summer's most intriguing transfer battles, Liverpool and West Ham are bidding head to head for young French striker Loic Remy . At the time of writing, the latest reports suggest that West Ham have offered £13million to Remy's club Nice, who are waiting for the Reds to respond.
Is the 23-year-old worth that kind of money? Assuming that he does end up on either Merseyside or in East London, will Remy be a success?
Excellent talent, could struggle physically in the Premier League
There is no question that Remy has plenty of talent and has earned the right to take a step up from Nice. The statistics tell their own story. Nice are traditionally a mid-table side and last season finished in fifteenth place in Ligue Un. Yet, Remy notched fourteen goals last term and eleven the season before, not a bad return while playing for an average team. He even forced himself into Raymond Domenech's France side, making his debut against Nigeria last summer, following impressive displays for the under-21s.
In terms of style, much has been made of Remy's similarity to Thierry Henry. Both have a similar rangy physique, blistering pace and the ability to glide past opponents. However, unlike Henry, if Remy does come to England, he will not have experienced top flight football outside of France. Henry had already won a World Cup and tasted life in Serie A with Juventus by the time he arrived at Arsenal and still took time to settle into his stride. Remy's two seasons at Nice, excellent though they have been, might not be enough of a schooling for the rigours of the Premier League.
The one thing missing from Remy's game is physical strength. Foreign players often comment on the increased physical demands of the Premier League and although some, like Carlos Tevez, evidently relish the challenge, one wonders if it is something that Remy can handle. Both Liverpool and West Ham would have to be careful to protect Remy and would not be able to utilize him as a lone striker in the kind of role that Wayne Rooney played to perfection for Manchester United last season.
Remy shows his best coming from wide, on counter-attack
Tom Williams, who covers French football for AFP, believes that Remy is most effective when given the freedom to roam wide on the right or left and is particularly dangerous in a counter-attacking team.
Williams has said, "At Nice, he played from the right, and he's played from the left for the under-21s,
"It's like how Wenger got the best out of Henry when he moved him to the left and gave him the freedom of that half of the pitch. That's the kind of thing that Remy would need. It might take a bit of time to find out what his best position is.
"Nice set themselves up as a counter-attacking team, so there was always room for him to run into and space for him to exploit."
Anfield future? Remy might not complement Fernando Torres
It could be argued that Remy's natural attributes would be an asset to any team, but how would he fit into Roy Hodgson's plans at Anfield? Much will depend on whether Fernando Torres remains at Liverpool, but this week's signing of Joe Cole must have improved the chances of that happening.
Assuming that Torres does stay on Merseyside, Remy would be signed to play alongside him, although he would be competing with another summer signing, Milan Jovanovic , for that role. In truth though, Jovanovic would be better suited partner to Torres than Remy.
Like Torres, Remy has pace, is able to smoothly beat defenders and is happy to drift out wide. If Liverpool are looking for a foil for Torres, it is hard to see how Remy would enhance the Spaniard's game. Jovanovic also has plenty of pace, but naturally provides much more of a bustling, battling style. Torres might well relish the prospect of a talented strike partner like Jovanovic, who can score goals himself, but is also able to do some of the 'dirty work' which could well result in chances for 'El Nino'.
Upton Park future? Remy the opportunist could flourish
With West Ham seemingly chasing most available players, it is difficult to know what Avram Grant's squad might look like next season. However, in terms of attacking options, Carlton Cole will likely remain the main man with new signing Frederic Piquionne ear-marked to play a role too. The addition of Remy would certainly raise questions over whether youngsters such as Zavon Hines, Freddie Sears and Frank Nouble , who has impressed recently with the England under-19s, will play any meaningful role next season.
In all likelihood, Remy would battle Piquionne to partner Cole and it's a pairing that could pay dividends. Cole provided a rare bright spot for West Ham last season, scoring plenty of goals early on and then showing later on in the campaign that he could also be a goal provider, linking up well with Ilan.
West Ham will hope that they do not struggle as they did last season, but they will likely find themselves under the cosh at times. Having Remy as an outlet could be a very effective weapon on the break. He is also the kind of striker who could really make the most of Carlton Cole 's more physical game, feeding off the England international's ability to win the ball high up the pitch.
Verdict: £13million is a lot to pay for a striker with limited experience, but Remy has bags of talent which would be put to better use for the Hammers than at Anfield.
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