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bigmick wrote:

Lee J wrote:just like the good old days mick, lets just hope we can get some of the form back now.

He does it for me mate, I'm very pleased with him.

I just can't get my head around how anybody wouldn't think this is good news Lee. If they don't like Riera, well we've just bought a bloke who can play very well on the left. If they believe in S@ints mythical second striker, well we've just bought a bloke who is excellent at dropping into the hole and making things happen. If they don't like Aquilani, we've just bought a bloke who has played a fair bit of his career in central midfield.

If they don't like players who haven't got Premiership experience, there's no worries here. If they won't have any more potential and they want proven performers, tick that one off as well.

But we're all supposed to be depressed because the fella might get injured . He might get injured of course, but we paid 20 million quid last season for a bloke who was ALREADY injured and we were all supposed to get excited about that one, or we were a disgrace .

If his injuries don't give you a nervous twitch, then you can worry about the wages. Fancy Cole not agreeing to play for free. Anyway he gets 90 grand a week apparently which is an obscene amount of money, but kind of the going rate. All in all by all accounts he will end up getting paid 19 million quid over the course of his contract (don't ask me ask Benny, it's his figure). Well by my reckoning Benayoun will have been on a minimum of 60K per week, and he had what was it three years of his contact to run. That means we had 9 mill to pay him, plus we got 6 mill for him which means Cole will cost 4 mill for however long he's here. Not excited yet? Ah well.

Benny The Noon wrote:

stmichael wrote:I also don't take this view that he's "injury prone".

He had a major injury recently and took a while to get back to shape. That for me doesn't qualify him as injury-prone.

82 games in prem in 4 seasons with 48 being starts .

more than aquilani managed 

Greavesie wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

stmichael wrote:I also don't take this view that he's "injury prone".

He had a major injury recently and took a while to get back to shape. That for me doesn't qualify him as injury-prone.

82 games in prem in 4 seasons with 48 being starts .

over 250 appearances in 7 seasons

I think he's only had two major injuries hasn't he? its a bit overstated IMO

It's the last one that was the worry Greavsie - serious knee injury and since then he has looked a shadow of his former self - hopefully he can get the form he showed during his early seasons with Chelsea up until his injury .

agreed mate, the last one was the worst but that doesnt make him injury prone. Just hope he can kick on from that injury and do the job for us.

We actually have some depth in attacking midfield in our squad. Unbelievable Jeff 

bavlondon wrote:And if he he is already with the squad does that mean he could play on Wednesday?

Greavesie wrote:

Then surely credit must go to Rafa and why change your tune now? 

honestly mate in my heart of hearts I dont think Rafa would have went for Cole and if he did I dont think he would have convinced him to come either

Benny The Noon wrote:the J Cole I saw last season isn't the Cole from 3 seasons ago and IMO is on the same level as Yossi so we have gained nothing at the moment IMO

stmichael wrote:some of the bile and jealousy from rival fans over this move is just hilarious. "he's only moved for the money" blah blah blah.

yeah, all the current crop of gold digger premiership 'stars' will be looking for a move to moneybags liverpool now

andy_g wrote:

stmichael wrote:some of the bile and jealousy from rival fans over this move is just hilarious. "he's only moved for the money" blah blah blah.

yeah, all the current crop of gold digger premiership 'stars' will be looking for a move to moneybags liverpool now

maguskwt wrote:

bigmick wrote:Fourthly and lastly (you'll be pleased to know), it shows that we have a manager who is well able to play his cards close to his chest yet come up with the goods. People said Purslow sold Benayoun and Roy had nothing to do with it, they said Purslow was doing the signing and the selling. I don't believe that to be true, I think it's Roy. Whoever it is though, 6 mill for Benayoun then Cole on a free is absolutely fantastic business by any standards.


Top man Roy Hodgson

Didn't you say just recently that the tracking of Joe cole was probably initiated by the PREVIOUS manager or something along that line? And that the PREVIOUS manager must have been heavily involved in the Benayoun deal as well?

Then surely credit must also go to the PREVIOUS manager and why change your tune now? 

I'm not changing my tune at Magus, what a strange comment Unlike some on here, I'm more than prepared to pay credit where it is due. Now undoubtedly the previous manager will have been interested in Cole, four of the other five teams in the top seven (except of course Cheslea as they were selling him) were interested in Joe Cole and tried to get him. He's obviously a good player, an England international on a free, and I've no doubt our previous manager was well aware of the fact, fair play to him. Being interested in him and signing him however are different things, ask Harry Redknapp and Arsene Wenger if you don't believe me.

Now as I said in my post which you refer to, Cole has been widely quoted as saying he wanted a manager who "loved him", who would "talk to him', would "trust him" and "believe in him". None of us know of course if the previous manager would have been able to entice Cole to turn down the two London clubs, but Roy did and for that he deserves credit.

I'm more than happy though to give credit to whoever deserves it.