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Raoul wrote:Not good enough. Roy isn't to blame for the quality of the passing, but he is to blame for how deep we played. If Merieles was sick, then I guess the substitution wasn't such a bad idea, though Jovanovic or Ngog with Kuyt on the right may have been a better move in hindsight.

In the end, I felt we saw a return to the bad old days at the beginning of the season. I'm not hopeful of a lot of success with Roy in the seat.

metalhead wrote:

Raoul wrote:Not good enough. Roy isn't to blame for the quality of the passing, but he is to blame for how deep we played. If Merieles was sick, then I guess the substitution wasn't such a bad idea, though Jovanovic or Ngog with Kuyt on the right may have been a better move in hindsight.

In the end, I felt we saw a return to the bad old days at the beginning of the season. I'm not hopeful of a lot of success with Roy in the seat.

Agreed mate, Roy isn't the one passing the ball around, the players are, they weren't good enough as they were against chelsea in that department.

But f*cking hell did Roy f*ck up with his subs

JoeTerp wrote:we need to stop playing central midfielders on the right.  Both Raul and Jonjo do not play well out there.

bavlondon wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Raoul wrote:Not good enough. Roy isn't to blame for the quality of the passing, but he is to blame for how deep we played. If Merieles was sick, then I guess the substitution wasn't such a bad idea, though Jovanovic or Ngog with Kuyt on the right may have been a better move in hindsight.

In the end, I felt we saw a return to the bad old days at the beginning of the season. I'm not hopeful of a lot of success with Roy in the seat.

Agreed mate, Roy isn't the one passing the ball around, the players are, they weren't good enough as they were against chelsea in that department.

But f*cking hell did Roy f*ck up with his subs

Ok yes it's the players but Roy is dictating the tactics right? They highlighted something interesting about Torres and it was generally how his game has changed since Roy came. A lot of the time he doesn't just get the ball and run at the keeper (not literally), instead he will look for a pass ect.... It's that lack of pressing that allows the opposition to come into the game and take control.

We cannot go on like this. I've seen enough, something has to change.

NANNY RED wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:we need to stop playing central midfielders on the right.  Both Raul and Jonjo do not play well out there.

^^^^ correct Joe

metalhead wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Raoul wrote:Not good enough. Roy isn't to blame for the quality of the passing, but he is to blame for how deep we played. If Merieles was sick, then I guess the substitution wasn't such a bad idea, though Jovanovic or Ngog with Kuyt on the right may have been a better move in hindsight.

In the end, I felt we saw a return to the bad old days at the beginning of the season. I'm not hopeful of a lot of success with Roy in the seat.

Agreed mate, Roy isn't the one passing the ball around, the players are, they weren't good enough as they were against chelsea in that department.

But f*cking hell did Roy f*ck up with his subs

Ok yes it's the players but Roy is dictating the tactics right? They highlighted something interesting about Torres and it was generally how his game has changed since Roy came. A lot of the time he doesn't just get the ball and run at the keeper (not literally), instead he will look for a pass ect.... It's that lack of pressing that allows the opposition to come into the game and take control.

We cannot go on like this. I've seen enough, something has to change.

mate he has scored 3 goals in 2 games Torres, it has to do f*ck all with the tactics, its about self belief, he was one of the players who showed up today, especially when he came back to help his teammates defend (they were terrible today at that). Look, I agree with all of you that we should press the ball and hassle our opponents, no doubt about that, and I've been critical towards Roy's footballing philosophy in that front, but people need to be realistic and not to let personal vendetta come to mind. It is not Roy's fault that the players couldn't keep the ball or pass it properly, that is down to the players themselves, because they couldn't pass a 5 yard ball ffs! Maybe its down to tiredness or maybe its down to Wigan's game plan who effectively pushed up and pressed us in our own half that made us panic a bit. However, I'll say it again, I just can't understand the substitutions!!!

rocky29 wrote:we got 4 points out of 6 in 2 tough games.Well done roy dont listen to these c posters. Your doing well mate keep up the good work.

Ciggy wrote:Those who posted last on Sunday about give him a chance. Well tonight is the reality of his ambition and his ability to change a game none.

7 away wins hes had in the prem between us, Blackburn and Fulham over 68 games.

Thing I have a problem with ciggy is you're completely absent from the match threads when we win. Points dropped and your like a !ng vulture. It's basically sh!t stirring.

metalhead wrote:Torres scored today.. AWAY from home and our best player today... how has that got to do with tactics? Me thinks its confidence.