Liverpool FC Forum

[RedBlood]

we just have to concentrate on ourselves, if we can keep winning starting with blackburn utd will drop points before the end of the season this i dont doubt
but we just need to stay quiet and let our football do the talking, think about it if slur alex erson is playing mind games and were just quietly going about or buisness winning game after game that would annoy the out of him...... dont take the bait is what i say

[Sabre]

:D Sky Reporter'' Is United the hardest draw you could have or is it Barca??''
Porto fan '' No its Liverpool they would have been hardest''

Is right lad 

Doesn't it feel great that you now know other fans of other clubs from around Europe now look at us as "the one" to avoid. To them, drawing us means that they are almost certainly out. It's a thing to be proud of. Imagine, just barely 6 years ago, we were a joke in Europe. Revered no more highly than your Porto's and Lyon's. Now we're the lion in the jungle.

It's what happens when a footie fan doesn't live under a shower of Sky journalism. They give normal answers. 

[Greavesie]

seriously whats that for Man U now, 10 conceded in four games, thats anything but the form of champions. Keep it up lads and its ours!

[tubby]

We haven't won anything yet mate. But it is definatley looking posative in the CL should we get the right result tomorrow.

[Ciggy]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/manchester-united-porto-champions-league

Winning is a desirable habit but it's less advisable to become too attached to one particular method. A quirk of the Uefa computer means that Manchester United have become accustomed to playing the away leg first in Europe and that fact was painfully apparent in their draw with Porto at Old Trafford tonight.

Like a cricket team who are much more successful when batting second, United seemed to have no awareness of how to set a target, as you are supposed to do if the first leg is at home. Would 2-1 be acceptable? 1-0? United struggled to calculate the appropriate degree of risk, and the consequence was an infectiously ramshackle contest: unusually in the modern game, both teams wanted to score one more than the other rather than concede one fewer. Never mind a victory: in the end, United were fortunate to get 2-2.

There were strong shades of another 2-2 draw in the first leg of the semi-final against Bayer Leverkusen in 2002. As then, an injury-affected United were unfocused and, perhaps, subconsciously complacent. Certainly the crowd, a whinging shower who gave one of the worst displays ever, seemed to think they just had to turn up and swing a boot on the seat in front as their side won 24-0.

United went out on away goals in the second leg of that Leverkusen match and, strangely, it is a decade since they won a European knockout tie in which the first leg was at home; even then they had to win in Juventus to go through. Since then they have played 14 knockout ties; in only four of those did they play at home in the first leg, and they went out each time. By contrast, United have won the last six matches in which they have played the first leg away from home. It's a nice fit for a team who are so capable on the counter-attack, but having to dictate play from the start seemed to frazzle their brains.

The confusion was confounded by a palpable nervousness that was supposed to have been blown away by Federico Macheda against Aston Villa on Sunday. If anything United were worse tonight. In the opening 30 minutes certain players, particularly Michael Carrick and Paul Scholes, looked like they had the yips. It was unusual enough to see those two misplace passes; that they were misplacing them by yards was utterly surreal.

Rank defending is becoming a more familiar sight when United play: in the first half an hour they were remarkably incompetent, and should have been at least 3-1 down to an excellent and admirably intrepid Porto side. Up until they hosted Liverpool last month they had conceded seven goals in the previous games; since then they have conceded 10 in four.

Injuries and suspensions do not help but, even with such a powerful squad, United are starting to look dangerously like a side who have shot their bolt in this most congested of seasons. Already they have played 53 games, with at least another 10 to come. Carrick looks completely gone, while Scholes is in the sort of slump that, at his age, tends to prompt career obituaries. Gary Neville's should have been written a year ago.

Such fatigue is often the case at the business end of a long season. United limped over the line in their Treble season; Arsenal's Invincibles won only four of their last 12 games in all competitions; Blackburn's champions lost three of their last five. "When it goes," Ferguson said as that Blackburn side started to wobble, "it goes quickly, and there is nothing you can do about it." Those words look truer than ever now. 

[tubby]

Nice find. But to take advantage of that we need to make sure we stay fit, or at least fit enough to win all our games.

[Sabre]

seriously whats that for Man U now, 10 conceded in four games, thats anything but the form of champions. Keep it up lads and its ours!

Yup, the CL league is easy no? Well they just dropped two points at home.

Which means that could happen perfectly other day.

They have advantage in points, but it seems obvious to me the self confidence mindset of our team is much better as we speak

[Greavesie]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/manchester-united-porto-champions-league

Winning is a desirable habit but it's less advisable to become too attached to one particular method. A quirk of the Uefa computer means that Manchester United have become accustomed to playing the away leg first in Europe and that fact was painfully apparent in their draw with Porto at Old Trafford tonight.

Like a cricket team who are much more successful when batting second, United seemed to have no awareness of how to set a target, as you are supposed to do if the first leg is at home. Would 2-1 be acceptable? 1-0? United struggled to calculate the appropriate degree of risk, and the consequence was an infectiously ramshackle contest: unusually in the modern game, both teams wanted to score one more than the other rather than concede one fewer. Never mind a victory: in the end, United were fortunate to get 2-2.

There were strong shades of another 2-2 draw in the first leg of the semi-final against Bayer Leverkusen in 2002. As then, an injury-affected United were unfocused and, perhaps, subconsciously complacent. Certainly the crowd, a whinging shower who gave one of the worst displays ever, seemed to think they just had to turn up and swing a boot on the seat in front as their side won 24-0.

United went out on away goals in the second leg of that Leverkusen match and, strangely, it is a decade since they won a European knockout tie in which the first leg was at home; even then they had to win in Juventus to go through. Since then they have played 14 knockout ties; in only four of those did they play at home in the first leg, and they went out each time. By contrast, United have won the last six matches in which they have played the first leg away from home. It's a nice fit for a team who are so capable on the counter-attack, but having to dictate play from the start seemed to frazzle their brains.

The confusion was confounded by a palpable nervousness that was supposed to have been blown away by Federico Macheda against Aston Villa on Sunday. If anything United were worse tonight. In the opening 30 minutes certain players, particularly Michael Carrick and Paul Scholes, looked like they had the yips. It was unusual enough to see those two misplace passes; that they were misplacing them by yards was utterly surreal.

Rank defending is becoming a more familiar sight when United play: in the first half an hour they were remarkably incompetent, and should have been at least 3-1 down to an excellent and admirably intrepid Porto side. Up until they hosted Liverpool last month they had conceded seven goals in the previous games; since then they have conceded 10 in four.

Injuries and suspensions do not help but, even with such a powerful squad, United are starting to look dangerously like a side who have shot their bolt in this most congested of seasons. Already they have played 53 games, with at least another 10 to come. Carrick looks completely gone, while Scholes is in the sort of slump that, at his age, tends to prompt career obituaries. Gary Neville's should have been written a year ago.

Such fatigue is often the case at the business end of a long season. United limped over the line in their Treble season; Arsenal's Invincibles won only four of their last 12 games in all competitions; Blackburn's champions lost three of their last five. "When it goes," Ferguson said as that Blackburn side started to wobble, "it goes quickly, and there is nothing you can do about it." Those words look truer than ever now. 

 

I'm beginning to feel awful for even doubting the lads 

It ain't over till its impossible! 

[Dundalk]

Such fatigue is often the case at the business end of a long season. United limped over the line in their Treble season; Arsenal's Invincibles won only four of their last 12 games in all competitions; Blackburn's champions lost three of their last five. "When it goes," Ferguson said as that Blackburn side started to wobble, "it goes quickly, and there is nothing you can do about it." Those words look truer than ever now. 

Alex Ferguson...

[tubby]

It aint over till.....

[zarababe]

Sky Reporter'' Is United the hardest draw you could have or is it Barca??''
Porto fan '' No its Liverpool they would have been hardest''

Is right lad 

too blo'ody right...

the mancs are losing there legs.. we can do it... BELIEVE BELIEVE 

[Madmax]

Dont know if this is posted anywhere..

Rafa vs fergie heats up!!

Rafa Benitez today dismissed suggestions from Alex Ferguson that whoever wins the Champions League quarter-final between Liverpool and Chelsea will be the biggest threat to Manchester United in the Premier League. 
The Old Trafford boss claims the loser will be knocked off their stride in the title race.
 
But Benitez told his pre-match press conference: "If Chelsea are not in the Champions League he knows they'll be a threat, and if Liverpool are not he knows we'll be a threat - he loses either way.
 
"I think they (United) have a problem because, clearly, either us or Chelsea will be able to focus on the league.
 
"I think he will be supporting Liverpool because we are the big threat now and if we continue in the competition maybe we'll be tired.
 
"You will have time to prepare for every single Premier League game (if you are eliminated), so clearly he will be supporting us.
 
"He likes to talk too much about other teams. I don't think it's mind games - I think maybe he's a little bit scared."

[Rorschach26]

we just have to concentrate on ourselves, if we can keep winning starting with blackburn utd will drop points before the end of the season this i dont doubt
but we just need to stay quiet and let our football do the talking, think about it if slur alex erson is playing mind games and were just quietly going about or buisness winning game after game that would annoy the out of him...... dont take the bait is what i say

the kids under 16 who u chat up on msn could use that advice bro lol

hes my twin i have 2 say these things 2 him pls dont ban me 

[yolz]

C'mon guys
It's been so long since we won the league that it's understandable that we're a wee bit passionate about the predictions over whether we'll finallywin it or not
I've supported Liverpool all my life, since the 80's and now that I'm back in Korea where everyone thnks Man U Suck are the only team capable of winning in, it's been hard keeping the pool flag flying
But the reason I never gave up supporting them is simply because they're liverpool
The team with the most history, passion, the team that invented the 1-touch, attacking football, the team that gave us gods like King Kev, Barnsey, Rush, Folwer, Owen, Mcmanaman, Stevie G, Torrres... and the list goes on
I don't know for sure whether we'll win it this time, I hope, pray and freaking die for that we do
But even if we don't there's always a next time, and the next time after that
Because we're liverpool, we walk on, with hope in our hearts, and we NEVER WALK ALONE
Let's just get behind our lads for the final stretch
Let's just keep the positivity going, let's just go on hoping, let's just walk on
Wouldn't it be something to see the look on Sir Alex when we win the double?
And imagine the looks on my fellow countrymen when the REAL REDS finally take their rightful place!
So C'mon you REDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stmichael]

An interesting fact is that only Aston Villa have fielded fewer players in Premier League matches this season (21), than Liverpool (23) and Fulham (24).

United have used 32 apparently. And they look knackered. We don't.