peewee wrote:well done barry for actually saying what you think rather than what liveranytime thinks you should think
IF YA DONT LIKE IT HERE GO HOME U SMELLY BAS.TARDS.....
U MAKE ME SICK,BRITAIN FOR THE BRITISH.....FU.CK OFF
bigmick wrote:Roll on January they say, roll on indeed. West Ham is a MUST WIN? no sh!te. In Rafa we trust, give 'em time, remember Pires etc etc etc. I think that's all the old cliches out of the way som what if we look beyond those?
I think if we continue to play this low-tempo, watchful and cautious type of football we will stay roughly where we are in the league give or take a place or two. As it's a fairly ordinary Premiership if you take out Chelsea, a slight improvement may see us climb a little higher I guess. There are some things though that need to happen about now in my view, here's what.
Squad rotation must cease as of now until we have found some form and consistency. When we start stringing a few results together then we can start resting the odd player. This changing the style and personel every week isn't doing anybody any favours. The way things are going, the players can rest for the last couple of months of the season because we'll be mid-table and playing nothing games. Lets find our best team and make the others fight to get in it. Simple.
Lets play a compact and hardworking 4-4-2. Simple.
Lets find OUR tempo. I am of the opinion that are most effective when we press the ball high up the pitch and play at a high tempo. Simple.
Lets play with one holding/sitting/DMC midfielder, and one attacking midfielder. The attacking midfielder must be a box to box type player, let's see some energy and a bit of sweat. Simple.
Let's play Cisse in every game as he looks like the most likely person to score a goal. While we're at it, let's play him through the centre. Simple.
The system is simple also. We have a goalkeeper and two full-backs whose job is mostly to defend. Two central defenders, one who mostly contests the headers. One defensive, one attacking central midfielder and two wide midfielders who work up and down the line. Two strikers, one with pace and one who is going to contest the headers. It's simple because football is a simple game.
Roll on January? Totally agree. Go and buy Jermaine Pennant for about 6-7 million quid. Ask about Ledley King and when they scare you off with the price go to Madrid and buy Woodgate for about 8 million. Pool together whatever you have left, go down the back of the sofa and put it all together and Buy Andy Johnson for about 8 million. Sell the people who between now and then don't do the business and move on. It's time.
bigmick wrote:Feck me, I post up that we should play 4-4-2 and the next minute everybody is accusing and counter-accusing everybody else of being racist.
I seem to be in something of a minority on here in that I come from a white anglo saxon family, but whatever Barry's comments were certainly out of order on here. I'm not moral Police but I would suggest that if those are your views then it's probably best if you seek out people of like mind before expressing them.
The trouble is "Britain for the British" comments, is that they overlook the fact that we are all mongrels in our own way, cast together by the course of History. Barry would love my missus, she's a beautiful woman from New Zealand. Not British though. Similarly, Belfast people like as not have their origins in either Holland or the South of Ireland. Hardly British either. My lot were all French which sort of puts my Anglo-saxon heritage in context.
Let's leave the politics alone people and use these boards for talking about football.
bigmick wrote:Feck me, I post up that we should play 4-4-2 and the next minute everybody is accusing and counter-accusing everybody else of being racist.
I seem to be in something of a minority on here in that I come from a white anglo saxon family, but whatever Barry's comments were certainly out of order on here. I'm not moral Police but I would suggest that if those are your views then it's probably best if you seek out people of like mind before expressing them.
The trouble is "Britain for the British" comments, is that they overlook the fact that we are all mongrels in our own way, cast together by the course of History. Barry would love my missus, she's a beautiful woman from New Zealand. Not British though. Similarly, Belfast people like as not have their origins in either Holland or the South of Ireland. Hardly British either. My lot were all French which sort of puts my Anglo-saxon heritage in context.
Let's leave the politics alone people and use these boards for talking about football.
peewee wrote:as for name calling, im sure you called barry a c unt before i even posted in this thread, maybe you should practice what you preach.
maybe barry could of worded it differently and then maybe you would have seen it differently.
but i doubt that as you are obviously both happy to jump on a race bandwagon and attack people for beliefs that are their choice and who the f*ck are you to say thats wrong.
LFC #1 wrote:peewee wrote:as for name calling, im sure you called barry a c unt before i even posted in this thread, maybe you should practice what you preach.
maybe barry could of worded it differently and then maybe you would have seen it differently.
but i doubt that as you are obviously both happy to jump on a race bandwagon and attack people for beliefs that are their choice and who the f*ck are you to say thats wrong.
No, never did I call him a name you will find. Fair enough you think he has a right to express his opinion, which he does, but so does everyone else, and If someone believes those comments are racist then fair enough also.
I realise he didn't intend his coemmtns at all Asians, but if someone had written the same thing baout my nationality/race I would've been offended, even if it wasn't meant to be directed at me.
If he had worded it differently, theri woudl be no arguemnt, but the way he has writtne it can be very very easily construed as racism, and I think you can see this.
On your last point, are you not doing the same thing by attacking Liverpoolanytime's beliefs on the subject? who are you to say he or I am wrong, you don't know Barry either.
peewee wrote:LFC #1 wrote:peewee wrote:as for name calling, im sure you called barry a c unt before i even posted in this thread, maybe you should practice what you preach.
maybe barry could of worded it differently and then maybe you would have seen it differently.
but i doubt that as you are obviously both happy to jump on a race bandwagon and attack people for beliefs that are their choice and who the f*ck are you to say thats wrong.
No, never did I call him a name you will find. Fair enough you think he has a right to express his opinion, which he does, but so does everyone else, and If someone believes those comments are racist then fair enough also.
I realise he didn't intend his coemmtns at all Asians, but if someone had written the same thing baout my nationality/race I would've been offended, even if it wasn't meant to be directed at me.
If he had worded it differently, theri woudl be no arguemnt, but the way he has writtne it can be very very easily construed as racism, and I think you can see this.
On your last point, are you not doing the same thing by attacking Liverpoolanytime's beliefs on the subject? who are you to say he or I am wrong, you don't know Barry either.
he c unt thing was aimed at liveranytime mate not you, read back and you will see it was him who said it, sorry for not clearing that in my post.
i just beleive in freedom of speech and i know im having a go at liveranytime because he had a go at barry, but the point is barry can ay what he likes and why does liveranytime always have to get involved.
just let barry get on with it, its ad that ur offended by it mate, ou should be bigger than that and dont take it personally
LFC #1 wrote:peewee wrote:LFC #1 wrote:peewee wrote:as for name calling, im sure you called barry a c unt before i even posted in this thread, maybe you should practice what you preach.
maybe barry could of worded it differently and then maybe you would have seen it differently.
but i doubt that as you are obviously both happy to jump on a race bandwagon and attack people for beliefs that are their choice and who the f*ck are you to say thats wrong.
No, never did I call him a name you will find. Fair enough you think he has a right to express his opinion, which he does, but so does everyone else, and If someone believes those comments are racist then fair enough also.
I realise he didn't intend his coemmtns at all Asians, but if someone had written the same thing baout my nationality/race I would've been offended, even if it wasn't meant to be directed at me.
If he had worded it differently, theri woudl be no arguemnt, but the way he has writtne it can be very very easily construed as racism, and I think you can see this.
On your last point, are you not doing the same thing by attacking Liverpoolanytime's beliefs on the subject? who are you to say he or I am wrong, you don't know Barry either.
he c unt thing was aimed at liveranytime mate not you, read back and you will see it was him who said it, sorry for not clearing that in my post.
i just beleive in freedom of speech and i know im having a go at liveranytime because he had a go at barry, but the point is barry can ay what he likes and why does liveranytime always have to get involved.
just let barry get on with it, its ad that ur offended by it mate, ou should be bigger than that and dont take it personally
ok sorry for the misunderstanding.
I didn't say I was offended by it, but If I was Asian I probably woudl've been somewhat.
I believe in freedom of speech also, but their is a line you shouldn't cross (like that meelan #5 fella or thomas88). Barry's comments were very tame in comparison to those sick tw@ts, but I still think he was out of order, and could've worded it a hell of a lot differently.
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