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[LegBarnes]

Stu were you complaining when babel scored? I doubt so , shut the feck up and stop going on about it , our first win over united and even than stu has something to complain about and uses that to back up his point , what a patheic person you are .

Or maybe the fact I'm trying to look at it from more than one side when we win prepares me for the inevitable...

The fact that I can pick faults in a win says alot. I can see were we need to improve, I can see what goes wrong and why. Then we we lose because of it I'm not suprised.

The fact is, when I bring it up it will be accused of being a knee jerk reaction.

Babel was class when he came on , we deserved that win and the only flaws in the game were in the first three minutes . SO i don;t think you can say anything about babel's performance being poor or something like that

Its beyound me how he can pick holes in that performance it was almost perfect even furgie said so and to get that response from the red nose tw.at is a uber ! (uber yes internet chat for fantastic , wait why didn't I just type that this is taking much longer O why I bother.)

[LegBarnes]

I'm not convinced about Babel yet, he has his moments of brilliance, but sometimes he just looks lost, especially when he starts games. Sometimes I just watch him beat a player, then lose the ball on the next player he comes against. He doesn't go for headers, I never saw him go for headers, he doesn't look brave enough for me to win balls in the air.

Im not so sure yet about him, but I hope he proves me wrong.

Do you think it might be due to fact rafa has sucked the confidence out of him its not easy adapting to the rotation philosophy more so as a young lad.

I remember stan collymore was in and out of form all the time but remember babel is young and not all players mature as fast as ronaldo.

He will come good and with more exp , confidence , babel will come good if he don't only person to blame will be rafa for not giving him the chance IMO.

I think he will mature and gain more confidence while he grows up and gets his game, but I still have my doubt that he will become a top class player that most of us claim he will be.

I don't think rafa sucked any of his confidence, but I think he gained more confidence when he came to Liverpool, as he said it himself when he joined.

Yes when he joined but its like buying a kid some sweets putting them in his hand then telling him he can't eat them.

No point being one of worlds brightest sparks to the top club and sitting him on the bench most of time and playing him out of position.

Are you saying Ryan Babel's one of the world's best prospects?

Yes I take van bastins word over yours any day of week or are you now saying you know more about football then van bastin.

[Bad Bob]

I've got a feeling the mods are going to lock this thread pretty soon

Nah, as long as people keep things reasonably civil it's actually a laugh to read.

My two cents...if I'm Rafa I'm starting Babel tonight and I'm saying this in his ear just before he steps onto the pitch: "you had a fine moment in the sun on Saturday, lad, but it won't count for anything if you don't reproduce that form tonight.  Get out there and start proving to me that you're more than just a handy lad to have on the bench."

[Toffeehater]

HE certainly seems to think so , thats why van basten is earning about 50k per week and stu is sitting at home , working for someone .

[Fo Dne]

ok my point is how come world class managers rate all the players you think are ?

and what is incorrect about my assesment on the above players ?

you must remmeber that kuyt scored the same as berbatov did in their first season in the prem .

Like who?

I could say the same about Ferdinand, Bullard (who Capello obviously seems to rate), Ashton etc etc.

Then theres Lampard, everyone knows how overated he is, yet he's still picked by England managers and licked by Mourinho...

I don't really care who rates who, I know who I rate and thats final. Ferguson thinks Nani's class, I think he's a bag of . Ferguson rates Hargreaves, I think he's nothing more than an average player who's an exceptional athelete.

I really don't get ya point lad, or lack of one.

and guess what those guys are doing then ?

winning titles and trophies all over the world

so its quite eay to see who is more qualified and a better judge of players as they got the results to prove it - what do you have ?

So them being more qualified than me makes there opinion more valid... yet me being more qualified than every member on this board doesn't make my opinions more valid?



How's that work then?

OMG you are more qunkifide is ya tell us how come on this should be funny. 

Child protection certificate,
First aid qualified,
Life quard experience,
Doing a sports science degree course with a view to doing a degree in it aswell as a teaching degree,
Level 1 qualified (Club coach)
Level 2 qualified (FA coach)
Level 3 qualified (Uefa "B")

Not that I really need to explain myself to clueless idiots like yourself who never back up any arguement with any sort of explanation.

[Toffeehater]

I've got a feeling the mods are going to lock this thread pretty soon

Nah, as long as people keep things reasonably civil it's actually a laugh to read.

My two cents...if I'm Rafa I'm starting Babel tonight and I'm saying this in his ear just before he steps onto the pitch: "you had a fine moment in the sun on Saturday, lad, but it won't count for anything if you don't reproduce that form tonight.  Get out there and start proving to me that you're more than just a handy lad to have on the bench."

I fully agree with that, babel has a lot of proving to do , some fans seems to think he's the future some like stu well the less said its better .

[LegBarnes]

HE certainly seems to think so , thats why van basten is earning about 50k per week and stu is sitting at home , working for someone .

Plus van bastin is one of greatest footballers of all time IMO.

That guy could play man he really could.

[Fo Dne]

Stu were you complaining when babel scored? I doubt so , shut the feck up and stop going on about it , our first win over united and even than stu has something to complain about and uses that to back up his point , what a patheic person you are .

Or maybe the fact I'm trying to look at it from more than one side when we win prepares me for the inevitable...

The fact that I can pick faults in a win says alot. I can see were we need to improve, I can see what goes wrong and why. Then we we lose because of it I'm not suprised.

The fact is, when I bring it up it will be accused of being a knee jerk reaction.

Babel was class when he came on , we deserved that win and the only flaws in the game were in the first three minutes . SO i don;t think you can say anything about babel's performance being poor or something like that

When did I say Babel played badly?

I said he's not good enough for LFC, I never once said he played badly the other day.

[Toffeehater]

Stu were you complaining when babel scored? I doubt so , shut the feck up and stop going on about it , our first win over united and even than stu has something to complain about and uses that to back up his point , what a patheic person you are .

Or maybe the fact I'm trying to look at it from more than one side when we win prepares me for the inevitable...

The fact that I can pick faults in a win says alot. I can see were we need to improve, I can see what goes wrong and why. Then we we lose because of it I'm not suprised.

The fact is, when I bring it up it will be accused of being a knee jerk reaction.

Babel was class when he came on , we deserved that win and the only flaws in the game were in the first three minutes . SO i don;t think you can say anything about babel's performance being poor or something like that

When did I say Babel played badly?

I said he's not good enough for LFC, I never once said he played badly the other day.

Well yoyou were complaining about the shot !!Stu , you contradict yourself so much , i think we should start a thread , idea taken from a great man drummerphil .


Stu's wonderful world of W*nk , not just for transfer rumors , for everything you type and spew

[LegBarnes]

ok my point is how come world class managers rate all the players you think are ?

and what is incorrect about my assesment on the above players ?

you must remmeber that kuyt scored the same as berbatov did in their first season in the prem .

Like who?

I could say the same about Ferdinand, Bullard (who Capello obviously seems to rate), Ashton etc etc.

Then theres Lampard, everyone knows how overated he is, yet he's still picked by England managers and licked by Mourinho...

I don't really care who rates who, I know who I rate and thats final. Ferguson thinks Nani's class, I think he's a bag of . Ferguson rates Hargreaves, I think he's nothing more than an average player who's an exceptional athelete.

I really don't get ya point lad, or lack of one.

and guess what those guys are doing then ?

winning titles and trophies all over the world

so its quite eay to see who is more qualified and a better judge of players as they got the results to prove it - what do you have ?

So them being more qualified than me makes there opinion more valid... yet me being more qualified than every member on this board doesn't make my opinions more valid?



How's that work then?

OMG you are more qunkifide is ya tell us how come on this should be funny. 

Child protection certificate,
First aid qualified,
Life quard experience,
Doing a sports science degree course with a view to doing a degree in it aswell as a teaching degree,
Level 1 qualified (Club coach)
Level 2 qualified (FA coach)
Level 3 qualified (Uefa "B")

Not that I really need to explain myself to clueless idiots like yourself who never back up any arguement with any sort of explanation.

Well that proves nothing mate many managers get those licences and still know nothing about football management seems like you be on the dole with all that debt.

But fact I played semi professional football for 4 years and pro for 3 years meens I know nothing about football don't it.

[Fo Dne]

Stu were you complaining when babel scored? I doubt so , shut the feck up and stop going on about it , our first win over united and even than stu has something to complain about and uses that to back up his point , what a patheic person you are .

Or maybe the fact I'm trying to look at it from more than one side when we win prepares me for the inevitable...

The fact that I can pick faults in a win says alot. I can see were we need to improve, I can see what goes wrong and why. Then we we lose because of it I'm not suprised.

The fact is, when I bring it up it will be accused of being a knee jerk reaction.

Babel was class when he came on , we deserved that win and the only flaws in the game were in the first three minutes . SO i don;t think you can say anything about babel's performance being poor or something like that

Its beyound me how he can pick holes in that performance it was almost perfect even furgie said so and to get that response from the red nose tw.at is a uber ! (uber yes internet chat for fantastic , wait why didn't I just type that this is taking much longer O why I bother.)

Erm... lets see... for starters, the complete lack of shape from the team for there goal. The fact there was 3 crucial mistakes from Mascherano, Arbeloa and Skrtel which led to the goal.

Then theres the fact we scored two fairly lucky goals ourselves. There was also the missed chances, it wasn't like the missed chances were a suprise, they weren't. Thats the problem. Had Kuyt scored them both and we'd won 4-1, that would have been a suprise.

I could go on, but I won't as there was no faults in your eyes.

[metalhead]

Stu you spotted the faults, every game has its fault, but I don't see you talking about the positives in the game.

[Toffeehater]

Stu were you complaining when babel scored? I doubt so , shut the feck up and stop going on about it , our first win over united and even than stu has something to complain about and uses that to back up his point , what a patheic person you are .

Or maybe the fact I'm trying to look at it from more than one side when we win prepares me for the inevitable...

The fact that I can pick faults in a win says alot. I can see were we need to improve, I can see what goes wrong and why. Then we we lose because of it I'm not suprised.

The fact is, when I bring it up it will be accused of being a knee jerk reaction.

Babel was class when he came on , we deserved that win and the only flaws in the game were in the first three minutes . SO i don;t think you can say anything about babel's performance being poor or something like that

Its beyound me how he can pick holes in that performance it was almost perfect even furgie said so and to get that response from the red nose tw.at is a uber ! (uber yes internet chat for fantastic , wait why didn't I just type that this is taking much longer O why I bother.)

Erm... lets see... for starters, the complete lack of shape from the team for there goal. The fact there was 3 crucial mistakes from Mascherano, Arbeloa and Skrtel which led to the goal.

Then theres the fact we scored two fairly lucky goals ourselves. There was also the missed chances, it wasn't like the missed chances were a suprise, they weren't. Thats the problem. Had Kuyt scored them both and we'd won 4-1, that would have been a suprise.

I could go on, but I won't as there was no faults in your eyes.

There's no postivies in your eyes , in a flawless performance you could pick a flaw , for example , kuyt did not tie his shoelaces they way he should , ffs 

[Fo Dne]

Stu were you complaining when babel scored? I doubt so , shut the feck up and stop going on about it , our first win over united and even than stu has something to complain about and uses that to back up his point , what a patheic person you are .

Or maybe the fact I'm trying to look at it from more than one side when we win prepares me for the inevitable...

The fact that I can pick faults in a win says alot. I can see were we need to improve, I can see what goes wrong and why. Then we we lose because of it I'm not suprised.

The fact is, when I bring it up it will be accused of being a knee jerk reaction.

Babel was class when he came on , we deserved that win and the only flaws in the game were in the first three minutes . SO i don;t think you can say anything about babel's performance being poor or something like that

When did I say Babel played badly?

I said he's not good enough for LFC, I never once said he played badly the other day.

Well yoyou were complaining about the shot !!Stu , you contradict yourself so much , i think we should start a thread , idea taken from a great man drummerphil .


Stu's wonderful world of W*nk , not just for transfer rumors , for everything you type and spew

Look, all I need to say is explain yaself lad.

Ya can't. Simple as. All ya do is throw insults, infact, to be honest, thats all of ya's av done through the thread, not one of you have backed up anything you've said with any reasoning. Everytime I make a point I explain it, you don't and you don't argue your point.

Babel mishit the shot and it went in, we got a bit of luck. Yay!

I'm happier than anyone we beat the mancs, I'm just not stupid enough to think this makes us a better side than we actually are and I certainly don't think this makes average players better than they are.

[LegBarnes]

Stu were you complaining when babel scored? I doubt so , shut the feck up and stop going on about it , our first win over united and even than stu has something to complain about and uses that to back up his point , what a patheic person you are .

Or maybe the fact I'm trying to look at it from more than one side when we win prepares me for the inevitable...

The fact that I can pick faults in a win says alot. I can see were we need to improve, I can see what goes wrong and why. Then we we lose because of it I'm not suprised.

The fact is, when I bring it up it will be accused of being a knee jerk reaction.

Babel was class when he came on , we deserved that win and the only flaws in the game were in the first three minutes . SO i don;t think you can say anything about babel's performance being poor or something like that

Its beyound me how he can pick holes in that performance it was almost perfect even furgie said so and to get that response from the red nose tw.at is a uber ! (uber yes internet chat for fantastic , wait why didn't I just type that this is taking much longer O why I bother.)

Erm... lets see... for starters, the complete lack of shape from the team for there goal. The fact there was 3 crucial mistakes from Mascherano, Arbeloa and Skrtel which led to the goal.

Then theres the fact we scored two fairly lucky goals ourselves. There was also the missed chances, it wasn't like the missed chances were a suprise, they weren't. Thats the problem. Had Kuyt scored them both and we'd won 4-1, that would have been a suprise.

I could go on, but I won't as there was no faults in your eyes.

2 lucky goals, you mean the fact we had them under pressure to force a mistake, lucky, I am sure even steven gerrard would want to punch you in the face for such a flagrant disregard of the effort our team put in and basically played the best team in England and Europe of the park you nob end.

Come on I swear you love the sound of your own voice.

How much have you spent ont hose courses cos they must have see you comming a mile of easy money for them.