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[J*o*n*D*o*e]

don`t worry guys it`ll all change in a couple of weeks when we knock them out of the cup 

[bunglemark2]

don`t worry guys it`ll all change in a couple of weeks when we knock them out of the cup 

I'll have what you're havin', mate ....

[Igor Zidane]

I think thats where the anti-Roys have got it wrong
I for one never thought of Hodgson as a great manager who would bring back the glory days. A steady, experienced hand to put us on an even keel was more like it to me.
I believe under the circumstances he has done a decent job, Not good. Definitely not great. We lie in 9th and its not beyond the realms of possibility that we will finish higher than last season. All the outrage and hysteria have distracted us from what his job was supposed to be and maybe with more support from the players and the fans we would have been higher.
If he stays until the end of the season and we do finish higher than 7th, will all those against him give him credit for being better than Benitez?

Well you see that's the infuriating thing isn't it. That's the thing that's getting everyone p!ssed off.

If hodgson is not a great manager and he was employed to steady the ship to put us on an even keel .He was not employed because he would progress the club or the playing staff or challenge for trophies or atleast com inpete. He has failed miserabley at his task and so have those that employed him . We are not steady , we are not on an even keel . He has succeeded in what he was not employed to do . To progress the club and the players , to win trophies and to com inpete . So this is the bit that p!sses me off atleast and the vast majority who could see this happening as soon as hodgson was employed . If we had employed someone better than rafa , we would now be in a none arguement , we wouldn't have any grounds to bleat . Everyone could see ((wether they admit it now or not ) that employing roy was and has since been shown a massive step backwards. We are now in a much worse state as a club under hodgson than we were under benitez (present owners accepted) .

[The Good Yank]

I just find the Roy hate at this point so tiresome.  There are a minimal amount of replacements for him at this point in time.  Not enough time for a new manager to come in and make the right decisions to evaluate the squad and identify transfer targets and conduct the business necessary to acquire those targets.  It's a pretty nailed down fact that there will be a new manager appointed at the close of the season (Roy is only on a two year deal and I don't see anyway he'd be extended, I'm pretty sure that's the feeling of NESV).

So why not just put it (the petty squabbling, the Roy v Rafa , the Woy looks like an Owl) behind us and just move on? 

We aren't bad enough to be relegated, we aren't good enough for the top four.  T and T are gone and so is Rafa, there is no magic wand that can be waved to change any of that.  It's time to move on. 

I won't agree with any arguments of "But if Roy spends money he'll waste it on players like Michael Brown".  Roy doesn't have that kind of power at the club.  NESV (along with Camolli) will be pulling the strings as far as player purchases. 

I just don't think the manager's role is as huge of a factor in the way things have gone to in the past two years.  Rafa wasn't as big of a factor in last year's decline (although I believe he had to go) and Roy isn't as big of a factor in what's happened so far this season.  There are 11 players on the pitch each match who have a lot more say in the outcome of a match than a manager does.  A manager isn't sitting in front of a 60 inch Plasma with an XBOX controller in his hand.

[Ciggy]

Express.co.uk

ROY HODGSON has pleaded with the owners at Liverpool to back him in the transfer window in a bid to shore up his faltering reign.
Liverpool boss Hodgson said he hopes he will have the chance to “stamp his authority” on his squad after saying he had largely been working with the players he inherited from Rafa Benitez.
Hodgson’s call came after the 2-1 win against Bolton on Saturday and would seem likely to fall on deaf ears, with the club’s owners, the Fenway Sports Group, having decided he is not the man to lead Liverpool forward long-term.
Liverpool travel to Blackburn tomorrow with Hodgson on the brink of the sack, but the Anfield manager believes fresh faces would give the club a boost.
“I remember saying at the start of the season that we will do very well if we get into the top half of the table by 19 games, because by then we’ll have got a bit of discipline and organisation in our game and the philosophy I’m preaching will be better understood,” said Hodgson.
“I’m also hoping that I will get a chance one day to stamp a little bit more of my authority and philosophy on the team by choosing more of the players.
“It’s not often mentioned, but I’ve not been that active in the transfer market here.”
Hodgson spent about £25m in the summer on Raul Meireles, Christian Poulsen, Paul Konchesky and Brad Jones. Joe Cole was recruited on a free transfer in a deal that was set up before Hodgson’s arrival.
It is unlikely, however, that Hodgson will be at the forefront of any dealings, with Liverpool director of football strategy Damien Comolli having lined up a move for Rennes winger Sylvain Marveaux in a cut-price deal.

Martin Broughton:
“He wanted to focus on how he could get more out of the existing players. His focus wasn't on 'how much money can I have?' or 'I want to bring this person in or that person in' - he was really focused on 'I believe, and I've got a track record that demonstrates it, that I can take the existing players, get much better performances out of them and buy constructively to build for a better future.'”

[7_Kewell]

So why not just put it (the petty squabbling, the Roy v Rafa , the Woy looks like an Owl) behind us and just move on? 

We aren't bad enough to be relegated, we aren't good enough for the top four.  T and T are gone and so is Rafa, there is no magic wand that can be waved to change any of that.

 

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

“I remember saying at the start of the season that we will do very well if we get into the top half of the table by 19 games, because by then we’ll have got a bit of discipline and organisation in our game and the philosophy I’m preaching will be better understood,” said Hodgson.

It must be the onset of very early dementia ,because try as I might I cant recall him saying anything remotely like that ..... the man's  in serious danger of turning into a caricature of himself
absolute joke .... if he had declared to Liverpool fans that only after 19 games would we be considered to be doing well to get into the  "TOP HALF OF THE TABLE " then he would have been laughed out of Anfield ....little did we know that this far into his tenure how much of this we wouldnt find remotely fucking funny 

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Jan 4 2011 by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo


IAN RUSH insists Roy Hodgson must be given time to transform Liverpool’s fortunes and has urged supporters to unite behind the manager.

The Anfield legend believes Saturday’s 2-1 victory over Bolton can prove to be a turning point after miserable back to back league defeats had left Hodgson fighting for his job.

“It was a very big result for Liverpool,” Rush said.

“What I liked about the game is that the supporters were fantastic. Against Wolves they weren’t at their best but they had nothing to shout about.

“But against Bolton, Liverpool played some really good football and the crowd got behind them and I think it made a real difference. It looked to me as though they wanted to win as a team.

“Roy knew what he was taking on when he got the job. It’s all based on results. Roy is a great coach and a great person. You can see what he is trying to do.

“We need to get behind him. I know he wasn’t first choice for the supporters but he needs time.”

A growing number of fans have lost patience with Hodgson after the Reds’ worst start to a season for over half a century. The Kop once again chanted for the return of Kenny Dalglish during last week’s defeat to Wolves
Legend Dalglish, who is a club ambassador, responded by making a plea in the ECHO for everyone to stick together in the build up to Saturday’s crunch clash with Bolton.

Rush says fans must follow his former manger’s lead and focus their energies on supporting the players and the boss.

“Kenny (Dalglish) is the king so people always want him but at the end of the day we’ve got to get behind Roy Hodgson,” Rush insisted.

“If Kenny can get behind him then we can all get behind him and give him a chance to show what he can do because he is a good coach.

“Roy’s come in to try and stabilise the club. It’s not going to be easy for him but I think his job is to assess the players and see what he thinks himself – whether he needs to get one or two in, in January.

“Liverpool has such a reputation as a big club that they don’t like to see them losing.

“They proved against Chelsea and the first game against Arsenal that they can compete and when you think they’ve turned the corner they fall down against lesser clubs.

“So they have got to try and get that consistency and I think that really it is down to the confidence of the players. With the support behind them, hopefully the confidence will come flooding back.”


Ian Rush..... the mans a legend ,but please Rushie Lad listen to the fans ,they have rarely  gotten it wrong over the years ,I understand it
must be totally soul destroying defending the man ,and then in the very act of  leaving  the man to his own devices  ,he will fashion a noose with the unlimited supply of rope he has been given and hang himself .......and with him all credibility ......
Don't get me wrong I admire the sympathisers  conviction ,but ffs at least have the good grace to  know when its GAME OVER
and its GAME OVER the fat lady is on an Encore ........ it matters not a jot what players past or present say in the media ,the relationship with the fans has been broken  beyond all repair ...the fans voted with their feet and stayed away against Bolton ,when did that last happen ?

[Emerald Red]

Exactly as I feared. He scrapes a win against a side that a win against at home is normally a given, now some are clamouring to give him more time? "More time." "More time." "Give him more time." That's all I've been f*cking hearing since the wheels came off long ago. He's had his f*cking time. He's taking us nowhere! We're going round in f*cking circles here. It is only a short matter of time before he f*cks up again, picks a terrible set up, and gets us beat by a no mark side languishing near the bottom and then comes out and chalks it off as "unlucky" or some bollox like that. NESV, I'm f*ckin disgusted in your lack of bollox!

[mramo]

Like 7_kewell said, Shankly was best mates with Sir Matt Busby, but I don't see anyone attacking Shankly [quote/]

The reasons why shanks and busby were best mates were because of busbys 3 year playing association for Liverpool. Also in those days football was a "gentleman's" sport unlike now.

Go and give your head a wobble ya prat!

This notion of not being friends off the pitch is nonesence. Rooney and Gerrard comes to mind. Even Kenny and Fergie have a respect and friendship for each other. As much as I hate Fergie for his alleigance to that mob, the guy is no ogre away from football.

This is just part of the witch hunt to rid ourselves of roy. Whilst i think he must be replace, there is no way that we should conduct ourselves like Newcastle, West Ham fans.

The owners was one thing, but this is purely football.

Jog on, boodiddy1. I think you need to take one of your fingers out your a-hole & clean your fingers.

It was obvious Kenny would have respect for Fergie - not sure how much Fergie had the same respect for Dalglish at the time? Think about it - Fergie was hardly a threat to our yearly domination in the 80's & very early nineties, prior to Dalglish resigning in 1991 so he had no need to make enemies with Fergie!

The difference between Roy's pathetic publicity photo to the ones of Houllier & Fergie is because Houllier was winning trophies & regularly beating United in 2000-2004. Roy's PR stunt (though innocent & I'm sure unintentional) it came at a bad time when our form is c r a p & his reputation with the fans is incinerating very quick! This is the reason why we as fans are appauled with this episode.

My advice to Roy is to get himself a PR after we sack him, rather than taking self-destructive actions in the future. The sheer irony is that media love Roy so much since he took charge of Liverpool because it makes for great news & makes all of us look like idiots!

[mkingdom]

Perhaps Roy can just pretend to be upset with almost every media outlet in the world as they dared to speak ill of his team, like his good friend Ferguson.  Then we can let someone else do the interviews, like Sammy Lee, who at least knows something about LFC.

[metalhead]

Aurelio has come out and backed Roy Hodgson.

so it seems many people are wrong that he has lost the dressing room

the majority of the players support him and that is why he is still the manager.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Aurelio has come out and backed Roy Hodgson.

so it seems many people are wrong that he has lost the dressing room

the majority of the players support him and that is why he is still the manager.

Its a shame its not the dressing room he's got the problem with ,need I remind you its the fans who want him gone,and its the fans who will orchestrate his departure ....

[jacdaniel]

Aurelio has come out and backed Roy Hodgson.

so it seems many people are wrong that he has lost the dressing room

the majority of the players support him and that is why he is still the manager.

That doesn't really surprise me though.

Its nice to have a "gentleman" as a boss, even when your team is doing sh.it.  Its fun and easy money.

Sometimes its more difficult to have a stressful boss constantly challenging you to do more.

[Penguins]

No wonder Aurelio supports Hodgson.

Roy brought him back and gave him the contract he wanted while Rafa thought he was way too injury prone to get such a contract....