Liverpool FC Forum

[metalhead]

People need to take a chill pill! I mean we are 4 games into the season.. 4!!! Not 20 or 26? Roy has been here for a few months and not years!!!

Can we give Roy at least a chance like what we did with our previous managers?

[Benny The Noon]

No one has demanded he is sacked or anything of the sort , yes he has been here a short time but people have been saying he is vastly experienced manager and knows the prem and English game well so I'm sure people were expecting things to improve - surely that's why he got the job , he will be given time but that doesnt mean people can't be critical or highlight areas where they believe he is going wrong or areas they believe he got it wrong .

[Roger Red Hat]

He may well be experienced blah blah blah but even Roy cant polish a turd.

he needs to fire some players out and bring some in. that takes time. In the meantime if we keep our heads above the water until such things happen then he'll do alright. first 5 games are tough ones and we're still in it - thats a good sign.

playing sh!te I admit but we're not losing (except against city obviousely)

[damjan193]

We had 3 verry hard games in the last 4 matches we didnt have West Ham, Stoke and Wigan, we had 2 verry tough away games at Manchester City who spent more than a 100 milion this summer and we played Birmingham who arent beat at home for a year plus we draw with them all the time this was the 7th time in a row so it wasent some easy match to win. And ofcourse there is Arsenal who are always in the top 4.

[Thommo's perm]

Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

Come on, mate, let's not go down the route of pointless stats.

We are one point--one--worse off than after four games last season and we are one point--one--better than than we were at the start of the 06-07 season.  Let's not make out like our form is massively different than what we've seen in the last few seasons and let's not read too much into points tallies and league tables after 4 matches.  There is a LONG way to go this season and, as we are in a rebuilding phase, patience is required (and, yes, I know you're going to say that the modern game doesn't afford much patience blah, blah, blah...but that's too bad--it's essential when a new manager comes in).

Have we not learnt from the previous seasons that the start defines your season - we have wax lyricaled about our poor starts hurting our season . Hodgson knows the prem , he knows the opposition we are going to be facing , he is making the choices on line ups and the tactics and the way we play . We need an up turn in form to release pressure and to start climbing the table .

Are you saying that the players on that pitch yesterday were not good enough to beat birmingham?
Obviously the score tells us they werent but thats not Roys fault. The players performed badly, especially our "best" players.
If or when they raise their game we will see a totally different performance than the dross we watched yesterday. The players need a long, hard look at themselves if they want to improve, not least the captain.
Maybe he should have worn an england shirt...?

[In and Out]

No one has demanded he is sacked or anything of the sort , yes he has been here a short time but people have been saying he is vastly experienced manager and knows the prem and English game well so I'm sure people were expecting things to improve - surely that's why he got the job , he will be given time but that doesnt mean people can't be critical or highlight areas where they believe he is going wrong or areas they believe he got it wrong .

It took Fergie seven yrs to do anything with Man.Ure and Wenger hasn't won nowt for a while, yet somehow Roy is supposed to have surpassed these fella's and Rafa's record after 4 games.

We have a s.hit fan base real colours of 'supposedly' real fans are glowing blindingly.

[Benny The Noon]

So now its 7 years to do something ? When people mentioned the 7 years during the previous manager regime it was laughed at ?

When people mentioned Wenger hadnt won anything for mnay years it was laughed at and deemed irrelevant?

Has it all changed now then ?

What would you say to the fans who were demanding previous manager be sacked then ? He didnt get 7 years ? He won a trophy in the time Wenger won none ?

[jacdaniel]

No one has demanded he is sacked or anything of the sort , yes he has been here a short time but people have been saying he is vastly experienced manager and knows the prem and English game well so I'm sure people were expecting things to improve - surely that's why he got the job , he will be given time but that doesnt mean people can't be critical or highlight areas where they believe he is going wrong or areas they believe he got it wrong .

It took Fergie seven yrs to do anything with Man.Ure and Wenger hasn't won nowt for a while, yet somehow Roy is supposed to have surpassed these fella's and Rafa's record after 4 games.

We have a s.hit fan base real colours of 'supposedly' real fans are glowing blindingly.

We don't have a sh.it fanbase... just a very frustrated one.  The club is declining quickly both on and particularily off the field.  its very hard to take.  Birmingham players were mocking us in the media yesterday for being sh.it.

Even our Chairman, Manager and players seem to think we're a sinking ship.  Torres doesn't look arsed, Roy admitted after the game that it was entertaining and we're not disappointed to have drawn.

im sorry but i for one think that players like Reina, Johnson, Gerrard and Torres should be able to take a game to Birmingham.  We didn't.  And even West Brom deserved more from the game 2 weeks back.

Previous manager was sacked when we stopped getting results.  Roy has had about 8 competitive games now and the football is terrible.  So I don't really blame fan's for being frustrated.

[In and Out]

So now its 7 years to do something ? When people mentioned the 7 years during the previous manager regime it was laughed at ?

When people mentioned Wenger hadnt won anything for mnay years it was laughed at and deemed irrelevant?

Has it all changed now then ?

What would you say to the fans who were demanding previous manager be sacked then ? He didnt get 7 years ? He won a trophy in the time Wenger won none ?

He (Rafa) had six years a fecking lot longer than six weeks.

As one of the people who loved the 'it took Fergie 7 yrs' does that statement not hold for Roy?

[In and Out]

No one has demanded he is sacked or anything of the sort , yes he has been here a short time but people have been saying he is vastly experienced manager and knows the prem and English game well so I'm sure people were expecting things to improve - surely that's why he got the job , he will be given time but that doesnt mean people can't be critical or highlight areas where they believe he is going wrong or areas they believe he got it wrong .

It took Fergie seven yrs to do anything with Man.Ure and Wenger hasn't won nowt for a while, yet somehow Roy is supposed to have surpassed these fella's and Rafa's record after 4 games.

We have a s.hit fan base real colours of 'supposedly' real fans are glowing blindingly.

We don't have a sh.it fanbase... just a very frustrated one.  The club is declining quickly both on and particularily off the field.  its very hard to take.  Birmingham players were mocking us in the media yesterday for being sh.it.

Even our Chairman, Manager and players seem to think we're a sinking ship.  Torres doesn't look arsed, Roy admitted after the game that it was entertaining and we're not disappointed to have drawn.

im sorry but i for one think that players like Reina, Johnson, Gerrard and Torres should be able to take a game to Birmingham.  We didn't.  And even West Brom deserved more from the game 2 weeks back.

Previous manager was sacked when we stopped getting results.  Roy has had about 8 competitive games now and the football is terrible.  So I don't really blame fan's for being frustrated.

8 competitive. How many lost?

[Benny The Noon]

So now its 7 years to do something ? When people mentioned the 7 years during the previous manager regime it was laughed at ?

When people mentioned Wenger hadnt won anything for mnay years it was laughed at and deemed irrelevant?

Has it all changed now then ?

What would you say to the fans who were demanding previous manager be sacked then ? He didnt get 7 years ? He won a trophy in the time Wenger won none ?

He (Rafa) had six years a fecking lot longer than six weeks.

As one of the people who loved the 'it took Fergie 7 yrs' does that statement not hold for Roy?

If it didnt hold for previous manager its not holding for the current manager - if current manager doesnt improve on the previous manager then we have wasted 9 million .

Everything people praised Hodgson for in the run up to the start of the season has so far failed to happen - how long do we have to wait ?

[In and Out]

So now its 7 years to do something ? When people mentioned the 7 years during the previous manager regime it was laughed at ?

When people mentioned Wenger hadnt won anything for mnay years it was laughed at and deemed irrelevant?

Has it all changed now then ?

What would you say to the fans who were demanding previous manager be sacked then ? He didnt get 7 years ? He won a trophy in the time Wenger won none ?

He (Rafa) had six years a fecking lot longer than six weeks.

As one of the people who loved the 'it took Fergie 7 yrs' does that statement not hold for Roy?

If it didnt hold for previous manager its not holding for the current manager - if current manager doesnt improve on the previous manager then we have wasted 9 million .

Everything people praised Hodgson for in the run up to the start of the season has so far failed to happen - how long do we have to wait ?

If you were willing to give Rafa 7 yrs because of Fergies record how com Roy isn't afforded that?

[Benny The Noon]

So now its 7 years to do something ? When people mentioned the 7 years during the previous manager regime it was laughed at ?

When people mentioned Wenger hadnt won anything for mnay years it was laughed at and deemed irrelevant?

Has it all changed now then ?

What would you say to the fans who were demanding previous manager be sacked then ? He didnt get 7 years ? He won a trophy in the time Wenger won none ?

He (Rafa) had six years a fecking lot longer than six weeks.

As one of the people who loved the 'it took Fergie 7 yrs' does that statement not hold for Roy?

If it didnt hold for previous manager its not holding for the current manager - if current manager doesnt improve on the previous manager then we have wasted 9 million .

Everything people praised Hodgson for in the run up to the start of the season has so far failed to happen - how long do we have to wait ?

If you were willing to give Rafa 7 yrs because of Fergies record how com Roy isn't afforded that?

Because i dont think Hodgson is good enough to be our manager - simple as that .

[Igor Zidane]

Bam are you willing to give roy seven years?

[jacdaniel]

No one has demanded he is sacked or anything of the sort , yes he has been here a short time but people have been saying he is vastly experienced manager and knows the prem and English game well so I'm sure people were expecting things to improve - surely that's why he got the job , he will be given time but that doesnt mean people can't be critical or highlight areas where they believe he is going wrong or areas they believe he got it wrong .

It took Fergie seven yrs to do anything with Man.Ure and Wenger hasn't won nowt for a while, yet somehow Roy is supposed to have surpassed these fella's and Rafa's record after 4 games.

We have a s.hit fan base real colours of 'supposedly' real fans are glowing blindingly.

We don't have a sh.it fanbase... just a very frustrated one.  The club is declining quickly both on and particularily off the field.  its very hard to take.  Birmingham players were mocking us in the media yesterday for being sh.it.

Even our Chairman, Manager and players seem to think we're a sinking ship.  Torres doesn't look arsed, Roy admitted after the game that it was entertaining and we're not disappointed to have drawn.

im sorry but i for one think that players like Reina, Johnson, Gerrard and Torres should be able to take a game to Birmingham.  We didn't.  And even West Brom deserved more from the game 2 weeks back.

Previous manager was sacked when we stopped getting results.  Roy has had about 8 competitive games now and the football is terrible.  So I don't really blame fan's for being frustrated.

8 competitive. How many lost?

just the one so far.  buts it the performances that are the concern.  We have won against very poor opposition and we're not attacking well, defending well, creating many chances or scoring many goals.

Win against the Mancs is a chance for us to gain a lot of confidence.