Liverpool FC Forum

[In and Out]

It must be hard for you.

[Benny The Noon]

At this moment yes it is bloody hard going watching us struggle and I don't like it and want improvement . It must be rare to find anyone who is happy with the way we are currently playing .

[stmichael]

we've quite frankly been really poor so far but to get on the manager's back after four games is ludicrous. yes i was begging for changes earlier yesterday but lets face it he hardly had the personnel to change it that drastically. the fact that we're still reliant on babel to change games after three years of abject performances says it all really.

had reina not thrown that one in against arsenal we'd currently be above man city and one point behind united. we've also had probably the hardest start out of anyone by having united, city, arsenal and brum away (where they don't get beat) in the first five games.

[Benny The Noon]

Let's hope for a big upturn in form starting thurs . It's the performances that are the most disappointing at the moment . Hopefully we can go to the mancs and at least put up a fight and some kind of positive performance .

[Ciggy]

It is highly disturbing that when the camera goes in on roy, he looks clueless. He is not giving orders out, he just stands or sits there with his head in his hands
doesnt write nothing down, doesnt seem to know how to change things or have a plan B.

Everyone could see that Barry feckin Ferguson was bossing our midfield after 20 minutes why no change at half time? I never want to see Lucas & Poulson playing in the same game ever again, crab like passes outwide or backwards. Carragher and Skyrtel hoofing, Glen Johnson playing like he's high on something meeting himself coming back.

And we have Daniel Agger a centre back thats comfortable on the ball brings the ball out of the defence and has a threat of scoring a goal finds himself sitting on the bench when he is the best defender we have at the club. Baffeling.

Get Johnson on that right wing play kelly at left back, get Agger back in that defence and hope that Konshesky hasnt got a serious injury.

People also need to be honest here say everything was hunky dory behind the scenes how many people here think Hodgson would have been given the job?

Never mind waiting and seeing and never mind being scared of being proven wrong, is Roy capable of managing the Redmen to silverware?

[Redman in wales]

Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

that's because it's been the hardest start for over 4 years.

when the first 5 games include Arsenal, Man city, birmingham (away - which is tricky) and man utd, you know you're gonna have less points than (for example) chelsea who have played / will play: west ham stoke, wigan, west brom and blackpool in their first 5.

TBH we have played poorly this season, basically picking up where we left off last season. BUT I have every confidence that had we started the seaon playing against:West Ham, Stoke, Wigan, West Brom, Blackpool - we would have 12 - 15 points after 5 games.

[In and Out]

It is highly disturbing that when the camera goes in on roy, he looks clueless. He is not giving orders out, he just stands or sits there with his head in his hands
doesnt write nothing down, doesnt seem to know how to change things or have a plan B.

Everyone could see that Barry feckin Ferguson was bossing our midfield after 20 minutes why no change at half time? I never want to see Lucas & Poulson playing in the same game ever again, crab like passes outwide or backwards. Carragher and Skyrtel hoofing, Glen Johnson playing like he's high on something meeting himself coming back.

And we have Daniel Agger a centre back thats comfortable on the ball brings the ball out of defensive and has a threat of scoring a goal finds himself sitting on the bench when he is the best defender we have at the club. Baffeling.

Get Johnson on that right wing play kelly at left back, get Agger back in that defence and hope that Konshesky hasnt got a serious injury.

People also need to be honest here say everything was hunky dory behind the scenes how many people here think Hodgson would have been given the job?

Never mind waiting and seeing and never mind being scared of being proven wrong, is Roy capable of managing the Redmen to silverware?

Don't you dare start critisising Roy and demanding decsions be made after 20 mins. 

Hypocrisy is every where kin el

[Benny The Noon]

Listening to Hodgson he says it was a very entertaining game and isn't disappointed to get a draw  ! !!!! Entertaining in what way ? The way the pepe saved us and we created no clearcut chances ?!

[Redman in wales]

Never mind waiting and seeing and never mind being scared of being proven wrong, is Roy capable of managing the Redmen to silverware?

no one is under the financial constraints laid upon any manager of Liverpool football club at this moment in time.

Two summers in a row now we've received more than we've spent and it wasn't rafas fault and its not roys fault.

We are good enough to win a cup, and I believe that Roy can deliver a cup - maybe not this year, but he will given the opportunity, but we won't be able to win the league without serious investment into the club.

[Ben Patrick]

There are a few things that disappointed me yesterday.
The midfield pairing of Lucas and Poulsen is the main one.
They dominated the midfield and Roy should have pushed Gerrard back as early as possible.
Jovanovic doesnt look upto it at all for me. I know its early but i dont think he is good enough.
With Cole back from his suspension now i would play 4-3-3 with Gerrard in the middle with Meireles and Poulsen.
Kuyt (if fit) on the right and Cole on the left of Torres.
I am a little concerned with the fact that Roy is picking the same sort of team and system as Rafa did.
If your midfield two arent good enough and the other team are having the bulk of the possesion then having Gerrard further forward is a waste. He doesnt get a kick. So you have your two best players not involved at all.
Its ok if you have midfielders behind them that are creative and can spot a pass. Lucas cannot do that and so far from what i have seen of Poulsen, neither can he.
Hopefully Meireles can, he has to start the next game and like Ciggy said Lucas and Poulsen in the same team is a no no for me.

I wont jump on Roys back at all as its early days and the fixture list was not kind to us at all. But he has to learn from mistakes.
We should have picked a more positive team yesterday and went there and tried to grab 3 points. Lets hope this manager isnt a we dont want to lose the game so we will try and keep it tight and see if we can nick a goal.
I have seen enough of that over the last few seasons.

[Bad Bob]

Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

Come on, mate, let's not go down the route of pointless stats.

We are one point--one--worse off than after four games last season and we are one point--one--better than than we were at the start of the 06-07 season.  Let's not make out like our form is massively different than what we've seen in the last few seasons and let's not read too much into points tallies and league tables after 4 matches.  There is a LONG way to go this season and, as we are in a rebuilding phase, patience is required (and, yes, I know you're going to say that the modern game doesn't afford much patience blah, blah, blah...but that's too bad--it's essential when a new manager comes in).

[stmichael]

If your midfield two arent good enough and the other team are having the bulk of the possesion then having Gerrard further forward is a waste. He doesnt get a kick. So you have your two best players not involved at all.

It's a double edged sword though.

At the moment, Torres is way off full fitness. Aside from him Gerrard is the other player who is most likely to create something or score a goal. He's more likely to do that if he's playing higher up the pitch than if he's in central midfield.

I agrre with you about Lucas and Poulsen though. When I saw them both starting yesterday I pretty much knew whet was coming. I saw enough from Mereiles in 15 minutes to know that he should be a permanent fixture in the side once fit. The loaning out of Aquilani still baffles me if I'm honest as we're crying out for creativity in the side. Hopefully Mereiles can provide some of that.

[In and Out]

Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

Come on, mate, let's not go down the route of pointless stats.

We are one point--one--worse off than after four games last season and we are one point--one--better than than we were at the start of the 06-07 season.  Let's not make out like our form is massively different than what we've seen in the last few seasons and let's not read too much into points tallies and league tables after 4 matches.  There is a LONG way to go this season and, as we are in a rebuilding phase, patience is required (and, yes, I know you're going to say that the modern game doesn't afford much patience blah, blah, blah...but that's too bad--it's essential when a new manager comes in).

Should be another Meat Loaf image.

It's ridiculous. People can't wait for the 'i told you so' opportunity to arise and are looking to play that idiom at any given opportunity. Any cr.appy stat to back their miserable opinions and hey ho life becomes as grey as the boards.

Some need a more active sex-life or even need to get out the house to get a bit of fresh air, cold shower an all perhaps.

[Benny The Noon]

Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

Come on, mate, let's not go down the route of pointless stats.

We are one point--one--worse off than after four games last season and we are one point--one--better than than we were at the start of the 06-07 season.  Let's not make out like our form is massively different than what we've seen in the last few seasons and let's not read too much into points tallies and league tables after 4 matches.  There is a LONG way to go this season and, as we are in a rebuilding phase, patience is required (and, yes, I know you're going to say that the modern game doesn't afford much patience blah, blah, blah...but that's too bad--it's essential when a new manager comes in).

Have we not learnt from the previous seasons that the start defines your season - we have wax lyricaled about our poor starts hurting our season . Hodgson knows the prem , he knows the opposition we are going to be facing , he is making the choices on line ups and the tactics and the way we play . We need an up turn in form to release pressure and to start climbing the table .

[Roger Red Hat]

Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .