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[SouthCoastShankly]

What I don't get is if Stu thinks that Robbie doesn't weaken our starting 11 why does the poll option to play Robbie result in us finishing 4th?

[dawson99]

i posted what i thought. just that you having ago at rafa for doing something which a lot of people agree with. and adding some friendly banter which upset you.

Robbie was a god at liverpool, but now like leon said, times they are a changing

It was called sarcasm.

As if I'd leave the forum over some nonce like you. As for the "friendly banter", shove it up your backside. I really don't like you and I don't respect your clueless opinions on a team that you've probably never seen play live in your life.

whereas u watch re runs 24/7 and talk about ability and fowler/ashton as youve got nothing else to say.

as for seeing us play live... saw us in 1993...so there! think we won 2-1 as well.

We all know what a clinical finisher he is, so why isnt rafa playing him more? Rafa knows what hes doing, so there must be more to it than we know.


We all like fowler, no one is disputing how good he was. But how many 90 minute games has he played in the last 3 seasons? Could he handle 3 games in 10 days? not a chance i think

[tommycockles]

What I don't get is if Stu thinks that Robbie doesn't weaken our starting 11 why does the poll option to play Robbie result in us finishing 4th?

Excellent point!



As much as i love Fowler we can't start getting sentimental. By the Charlton game we should be looking towards the CL final so should really be playing a team to win to give us good confidenace going into the final. If the nightmare happens and we don't get there (not a possibility i'd like to think about) then he may get a game, but as we will be there then we should be playing our strikers to get them ready for the bigger game!

[Ace Ventura]

I personally think Fowlers been criminally underused this season, especially considering the performances of our other strikers this season. How any one can say he's past it when he hasnt even been given a run of games to show what he can do is beyond me. Does any one seriously reckon Crouch, Bellamy and Kuyt would have scored the same amount of goals if they the shocking amount of games that Robbie has?

Only last season Fowler was still scoring vital goals for us and i beleive he would have done just as well if given an the opportunity, i mean he hasnt even started two games in a row this season, and i personally think that was a major up by Rafa.

Totally agree with everything mate.

Rafa has done Robbie no favours at all, everyone who says he is finished wouldnt of been saying it when he was scoring vital winning goals last season at home to Bolton and away to Blackburn.
He could and should of been given runs of games to get himself match fit and wasnt.

Dawson you are missing the point, he doesnt need to play 3 games in 10 days, we have a squad for that.
We all know Rafa wants more from his strikers, fair enough that means Robbie will end up going at the end of the season, BUT he should of featured more this season, definately.

[redmikey]

head said 3rd

heart said 4th and give the lad a send off he didn't get under gh

[Anfield rapper]

I think we need to get 3rd spot nailed and that to me means using the best players available. We saw the blue slip up in the champions league qualifier last season and its something that we have to try our best to avoid. Lets make sure Arsenal have to play it and try and get as many points as we possibly can. Thats the only way we can judge where we are against the likes of Man U and Chelsea.

[grayghost]

Prople seem to be saying that Robbie was aful at psv game but the hole team was aful the was no passion in the game. and there are not many players in are squad who would have flicked the ball back to crouchie with his back to goal play him with bellamy and the goals will flow.

[Owzat]

Its not even worth discussing football with you as you've proved many times in the past, when challenged by myself, Ivor, Scottbot, Ace Ventura and just about everyone else with an ounce of knowledge you don't have valid reasons or opinions for thinking the way you do.

I'll quote myself again 7_Kewell...

The only arguements you've ever came up with is "Nigel Worthington thinks you are wrong", "nobody agrees with you" and "he looked knackered" you could tell by the look on his face".

Do you know what? I disagree with anyone who says Lampard's world class or the second best player in the world as he was voted by the majority...

Again, I put it to you to provide an arguement and I'm challenging you to debate and reason why you think the way you do... You're next post on the matter will either be to try and mock your way out of it or you'll say theres no debating anything with me simply because of you're lack of knowledge, you do your best to mock my posts and knowledge of the game, so lets see yours...

I'm holding my breath in anticipation...

stu..he cannot play 90 mins of football.  Shouldn't that be enough?  Or perhaps his display against PSV...again that is enough for most.  Or perhaps he hasn't scored ANY goals from open play in the league?  nope?  Well i guess the basic reasoning is he's not good enough to get in the side...that''s what rafa has decided and that's good enough for me.

Look at your poll stu...you're just embarressing yourself (again)

If he gets less than 30 minutes per appearance on average how do you expect him to score from open play?!?!? I've done the analysis of goals scored vs time on the pitch and it's no surprise that when he plays 80+ minutes he scores goals.

If I remember I'll show you the breakdown, he played 90 mins vs Galatasaray and scored twice from open play in a shambolic defensive display. Worst comes to worst and he breaks down because he can't last 90 mins then he leaves and we're no worse off than we are now

[Stu.Murph]

What I don't get is if Stu thinks that Robbie doesn't weaken our starting 11 why does the poll option to play Robbie result in us finishing 4th?

Excellent point!



As much as i love Fowler we can't start getting sentimental. By the Charlton game we should be looking towards the CL final so should really be playing a team to win to give us good confidenace going into the final. If the nightmare happens and we don't get there (not a possibility i'd like to think about) then he may get a game, but as we will be there then we should be playing our strikers to get them ready for the bigger game!

Its was a hypothetical question. Would you risk finishing 4th over 3rd to give a legend the send of he deserves... simple as that.

[SouthCoastShankly]

What I don't get is if Stu thinks that Robbie doesn't weaken our starting 11 why does the poll option to play Robbie result in us finishing 4th?

Excellent point!



As much as i love Fowler we can't start getting sentimental. By the Charlton game we should be looking towards the CL final so should really be playing a team to win to give us good confidenace going into the final. If the nightmare happens and we don't get there (not a possibility i'd like to think about) then he may get a game, but as we will be there then we should be playing our strikers to get them ready for the bigger game!

Its was a hypothetical question. Would you risk finishing 4th over 3rd to give a legend the send of he deserves... simple as that.

Your missing the point son. Your so called hypothetical question is saying that if you play Robbie you'll finish forth whereas if you don't you finish 3rd. Therefore Robbie must be the cause for the change in possible league position - a sentiment you strongly oppose.

[Stu.Murph]

What I don't get is if Stu thinks that Robbie doesn't weaken our starting 11 why does the poll option to play Robbie result in us finishing 4th?

Excellent point!



As much as i love Fowler we can't start getting sentimental. By the Charlton game we should be looking towards the CL final so should really be playing a team to win to give us good confidenace going into the final. If the nightmare happens and we don't get there (not a possibility i'd like to think about) then he may get a game, but as we will be there then we should be playing our strikers to get them ready for the bigger game!

Its was a hypothetical question. Would you risk finishing 4th over 3rd to give a legend the send of he deserves... simple as that.

Your missing the point son. Your so called hypothetical question is saying that if you play Robbie you'll finish forth whereas if you don't you finish 3rd. Therefore Robbie must be the cause for the change in possible league position - a sentiment you strongly oppose.

How thick are you?

Again... Would you risk finishing fourth to give a legend a propper send of or would you rather finish 3rd and never see Robbie again? <<<< THAT IS THE POINT!!!

I'm not saying we'll finish 4th if he plays or not. I don't think for a second he weakens the team and I don't think for a second we'll finish anything other than third. Its you thats missing the point "son".

[SouthCoastShankly]

What I don't get is if Stu thinks that Robbie doesn't weaken our starting 11 why does the poll option to play Robbie result in us finishing 4th?

Excellent point!



As much as i love Fowler we can't start getting sentimental. By the Charlton game we should be looking towards the CL final so should really be playing a team to win to give us good confidenace going into the final. If the nightmare happens and we don't get there (not a possibility i'd like to think about) then he may get a game, but as we will be there then we should be playing our strikers to get them ready for the bigger game!

Its was a hypothetical question. Would you risk finishing 4th over 3rd to give a legend the send of he deserves... simple as that.

Your missing the point son. Your so called hypothetical question is saying that if you play Robbie you'll finish forth whereas if you don't you finish 3rd. Therefore Robbie must be the cause for the change in possible league position - a sentiment you strongly oppose.

How thick are you?

Again... Would you risk finishing fourth to give a legend a propper send of or would you rather finish 3rd and never see Robbie again? <<<< THAT IS THE POINT!!!

I'm not saying we'll finish 4th if he plays or not. I don't think for a second he weakens the team and I don't think for a second we'll finish anything other than third. Its you thats missing the point "son".

Oh my word, this is tedious.

Would you risk finishing fourth to give a legend a propper send of or would you rather finish 3rd and never see Robbie again?

If Robbie doesn't weaken the side how is playing him a risk?

I'm not saying we'll finish 4th if he plays or not

By posing those two outcomes in the poll that's exactly what your saying my friend.

[Stu.Murph]

Firstly, I'm not your "friend".

I can't even be arsed lad, if you're so thick you can't understand the question and the point, then thats your problem. I've explained myself more than clearly more than once aswell and you still don't get it.

Run along.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Firstly, I'm not your "friend".

I can't even be arsed lad, if you're so thick you can't understand the question and the point, then thats your problem. I've explained myself more than clearly more than once aswell and you still don't get it.

Run along.

Listen, mistakes happen - don't let it affect your posting though. Chin up.

For future reference if you want to do that poll correctly based on the fact you think Robbie doesn't weaken the team, chose these options -

1. 3rd
2. 3rd and give Robbie a good send off

[JoeTerp]

thats dumb because who the Eff would choose just 3rd place.  the purpose of the question is to prioritize which you like better finishing above arsenal or making sure robbie gets the send off he deserves, obviously both can happen.