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[babu]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Rafa may have made mistakes, or miscalculations, but he is certainly not shy to make rectify those mistakes.

To be honest i don't care whether Rafa is a genius or not. He is doing the job and taking our club back to where it belongs - whether genius or luck (personally reckon he has both) the end result is the same.. LFC improvement each season and a couple of trophies along the way.

So what's the problem?

[Bad Bob]

You know, kid,you're actually right about this one (had to happen sometime ).  Kewell was in 'the hole' that game, just behind Baros, with Riise on the left, Alonso and Gerrard in the middle and Garcia on the right.  I stand corrected.  Cafu was Riise's problem to deal with.  Kewell was supposed to support Baros by linking with the midfield. 

I think I will print this post and frame it. Bad Bob saying I was right and HE was wrong.

See BadBob I'm not stupid. I just have different views on certain things.

Let's not get carried away, lad.  You still thought Paco H. and Pako A. were the same person and the threads you start are utter bollox.  You're improving though. 

[supersub]

Israeli is not in Europe and therefore should not be allowed to participate in any Champions League football.





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[anti-hero]

I think that u'r manager, like all your players and a lot of your fans, are a bunch of cowards. u should change u'r name to "Chickenpool".
Everyone knows that the war in Israel is not even near Tel-Aviv, but only in the north of Israel. I think that you are just trying to make excuses because your team is afraid to make a bad result in Israel. And for Liverpool fans who are afraid to come to Israel: What about "You'lle Never Walk Alone"?

Go away.

You're not wanted.

[babu]

I think that u'r manager, like all your players and a lot of your fans, are a bunch of cowards. u should change u'r name to "Chickenpool".
Everyone knows that the war in Israel is not even near Tel-Aviv, but only in the north of Israel. I think that you are just trying to make excuses because your team is afraid to make a bad result in Israel. And for Liverpool fans who are afraid to come to Israel: What about "You'lle Never Walk Alone"?

I think you need to talk to UEFA. or you should join the AFC.
Either way p!ss off.

[azriahmad]

The one thing about Rafa is that he does not dwell on his mistakes. Pellegrino was not given a contract extension, Nunez and Josemi was shipped out in double quick time and when he realised that Morrientes could not settle as well as he should, he was also shipped out.

Makes you wonder...if Benitez were the England manager, he would have probably dropped or subbed Beckham earlier when his performances in those matches in the Finals were that woeful. Also, he wouldn't sure as hell gambled on 2 unfit strikers, probably only on 1 unfit striker and wouldn't have brought Theo Walcott to be a "tourist" in the squad!

Benitez is good at throwing in substitutes to try and change the game when the Plan A or Plan B on the field is clearly not working.

He is meticulous and yet so modest in contrast to the loud mouth at Stamford Bridge and his successes in Spain and England speaks volumes in reflecting the man's abilities. Best manager we have had in quite a while.

[thegreenred]

rafa is no shankly or paisley but hes getting there i have total faith in his managerial skills.

[woof woof !]

Rafa a genius ? OK , this is an LFC site so I guess some hyperbole is allowed but in my opinion he is not a genius,(I don't consider any footy manager a "genius") .He is however one of the top managers in the world .

(just trying to keep it realistic lads . )

[mikopool]

If we win the league,fa cup, carling cup, champions league, then ya, hes a genius, but I could say that about any manager, Rafa has made mistakes, but his sucess far outweighs any errors he may have made. footballing mastermind is my favourite was to describe him.

[Lando_Griffin]

Without being funny, to hear some people on here you'd think Paisley and Shankly never lost a game, never made a signing that wasn't a success, and won all their trophies within their first 2 years.

Toe to toe, Rafa is easily up there with both of our greatest managers, and is doing a similar job to Shanks, in as much as he's resurrecting a sleeping giant.

Paisley had a title-winning team when he came to the helm and made it better, which is easier in many respects than starting from an also-ran/2nd Division position.

Shanks had to work harder, IMHO, and laid all the foundations.

Pretty much as Rafa is doing now.

[48-1119859832]

Without being funny, to hear some people on here you'd think Paisley and Shankly never lost a game, never made a signing that wasn't a success, and won all their trophies within their first 2 years.

Toe to toe, Rafa is easily up there with both of our greatest managers, and is doing a similar job to Shanks, in as much as he's resurrecting a sleeping giant.

Paisley had a title-winning team when he came to the helm and made it better, which is easier in many respects than starting from an also-ran/2nd Division position.

Shanks had to work harder, IMHO, and laid all the foundations.

Pretty much as Rafa is doing now.

You're getting far too carried away, let Rafa complete his ten year spell with us, then compare him to Shanks and Paisley.

[Billy_5_Times]

Both Shanks and Paisley both were magnificent and Rafa is proving to be just as much but I don't class Rafa as good as either of them but is certainly the best we have had since King Kenny. Saying that Rafa has won a trophy that eluded Shanks (European Cup) and one that eluded Bob (FA Cup)

[Lando_Griffin]

Without being funny, to hear some people on here you'd think Paisley and Shankly never lost a game, never made a signing that wasn't a success, and won all their trophies within their first 2 years.

Toe to toe, Rafa is easily up there with both of our greatest managers, and is doing a similar job to Shanks, in as much as he's resurrecting a sleeping giant.

Paisley had a title-winning team when he came to the helm and made it better, which is easier in many respects than starting from an also-ran/2nd Division position.

Shanks had to work harder, IMHO, and laid all the foundations.

Pretty much as Rafa is doing now.

You're getting far too carried away, let Rafa complete his ten year spell with us, then compare him to Shanks and Paisley.

Are you actually a Liverpool fan? DO you want success?

If you look at their records for their first 2 years, I'm sure Rafa's will match Paisley's and definately better SHankly's. (Obviously Shanks started out in Div 2, but even so.)

And do not forget that neither SHanks nor Bob had a money-bags team blocking their path to title success.

Rafa's trophy count in 2 years in charge:

European Cup, European Super Cup and FA Cup.

Shanks:

Remained in Div 2 until 1961-62, when he won the 2nd DIv Championship. Ergo nothing in the first 2 years.

Bob: 2 Titles, Uefa Cup and Euopean Cup.


Can anyone seriously argue that Rafa's record doesn't stand up to his illustious predecessors?

I'm not saying he'll be as successful. I'm not saying he's better. All I'm saying is you can't say he's worse.

Now rejoice that we have the best manager in the World at the helm of our club.

And stop talking sh*t.

[48-1119859832]

Without being funny, to hear some people on here you'd think Paisley and Shankly never lost a game, never made a signing that wasn't a success, and won all their trophies within their first 2 years.

Toe to toe, Rafa is easily up there with both of our greatest managers, and is doing a similar job to Shanks, in as much as he's resurrecting a sleeping giant.

Paisley had a title-winning team when he came to the helm and made it better, which is easier in many respects than starting from an also-ran/2nd Division position.

Shanks had to work harder, IMHO, and laid all the foundations.

Pretty much as Rafa is doing now.

You're getting far too carried away, let Rafa complete his ten year spell with us, then compare him to Shanks and Paisley.

Are you actually a Liverpool fan? DO you want success?

If you look at their records for their first 2 years, I'm sure Rafa's will match Paisley's and definately better SHankly's. (Obviously Shanks started out in Div 2, but even so.)

And do not forget that neither SHanks nor Bob had a money-bags team blocking their path to title success.

Rafa's trophy count in 2 years in charge:

European Cup, European Super Cup and FA Cup.

Shanks:

Remained in Div 2 until 1961-62, when he won the 2nd DIv Championship. Ergo nothing in the first 2 years.

Bob: 2 Titles, Uefa Cup and Euopean Cup.


Can anyone seriously argue that Rafa's record doesn't stand up to his illustious predecessors?

I'm not saying he'll be as successful. I'm not saying he's better. All I'm saying is you can't say he's worse.

Now rejoice that we have the best manager in the World at the helm of our club.

And stop talking sh*t.

What has me being a Liverpool fan and wanting success got to do with with Rafa being a legend like Shanks and Bob? Rafa's record is great don't get me wrong but you I think it's rather early to be comparing Rafa to past legends. I didn't realise ppl's views that were different from your's where s.hit you up your own a.rse p.rick. 

[Anfield Kop]

His signings:
Morientes-- a waste of time, space and 6 mill.
Nunez-- was never going to be the answer and we lost Michael Owen in the process.
Josemi-- never going to displace Finnan and didn't hack it as a centre half.
Pelligrino-- wasn't bought as a permanant player, just to give Sami the rest for Europe and that workd but when Pelligrino played he was useless.

Compared to sum of money Mr Houllier spent on signing "stars to-be", Rafa Benitez has been very intelligent in the transfer market up to now.