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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:16 am

Good post!! and the feedback is great ... just like playing CM5.

As for me:
Out : David Mores.
IN : Somebody who have money to buy Liverpool.
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Postby Nando » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:49 am

the return of HAS wrote:3 things Nando:

1 - I doubt very much that Rafa will go for Aimar as Garcia has been bought for that 'special role'. And anyway is it really worth having both of them.

2 - Getting Baraja to Liverpool in the first place will be a near impossible task, and then asking him to sit on the bench?

3 - Buying Owen and Upson and not even putting them on the bench?

owen is a player on the list i would like to see back but he has moved on as we will have to as well, after watching real madrid VS Barca and seeing the reception he got when he left the pitch 1 could only imagine why he would wanna leave all that, if owen came back he would realise he wouldnt be our main striker and he wouldnt be our owen of old which is why i wouldnt mind too much if we missed out on him,
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Postby coxy » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:57 am

Out : Cheyrou, Smicer (release), Baros, Vignal (release), Kewell, Biscan (release)
Diouf, Diao, Mellor, Hypia, Joesmi, Hammann (release)

Carson
Kirkland
Harrison
Finnan
Ramos
Riise
Warnock
Carragher
Metzelder
Gronquist
Pelligrino
Traore
Garcia
Hargreaves
Vincente
Gerrard
Alonso
Welsh
Diarra
Nunez
Aimar
Morientes
Cisse
Pongolle
Letallec

This would be my Champ manager team. Think there may be a deal to be done with Bayern Munich for Hargreaves if they want Kewell.
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Postby MilitiaRusher » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:51 am

Realistic one: *If requirements in brackets not fulfilled, do not buy the player
Potential INS:
Stuart Downing (loan or 4 million or below)
Sean Wright Phillips (loan or 5-6 million or below)
Jermaine Defoe (loan or 5-6 million or below)
Robbie Keane (loan or 4 million or below)
Andrew Johnson (loan or 4 million or below)
Vicente (8 million or below)
Baraja (6 million or below)
Christian Vieri (8 million or below or 5 million and Baros exchange)

Potential OUTS: *If requirements in brackets not fulfilled, keep the player
Josemi (for 2 million or part of an exchange deal for another Spanish right back)
Smicer (free or 1-2 million)
Mellor (loan or 1-2 million)
Gerrard (for 45 mil or above or 35 mil and a Chelsea first team player)
Baros (for 10 mil or above or a couple of mil and a quality striker)
Diouf (for 4-5 million or above)
Diao (free or 1-2 million)
Other fringe reserve players like Partridge, Potter, Welsh (loan or 1-2 million)
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Postby JC_81 » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:04 am

MilitiaRusher wrote:Realistic one: *If requirements in brackets not fulfilled, do not buy the player
Potential INS:
Stuart Downing (loan or 4 million or below)
Sean Wright Phillips (loan or 5-6 million or below)
Jermaine Defoe (loan or 5-6 million or below)
Robbie Keane (loan or 4 million or below)
Andrew Johnson (loan or 4 million or below)
Vicente (8 million or below)
Baraja (6 million or below)
Christian Vieri (8 million or below or 5 million and Baros exchange)

Potential OUTS: *If requirements in brackets not fulfilled, keep the player
Josemi (for 2 million or part of an exchange deal for another Spanish right back)
Smicer (free or 1-2 million)
Mellor (loan or 1-2 million)
Gerrard (for 45 mil or above or 35 mil and a Chelsea first team player)
Baros (for 10 mil or above or a couple of mil and a quality striker)
Diouf (for 4-5 million or above)
Diao (free or 1-2 million)
Other fringe reserve players like Partridge, Potter, Welsh (loan or 1-2 million)

How the hell would we get SWP, Downing or Defoe on loan???

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Postby coxy » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:08 am

Realistic one: *If requirements in brackets not fulfilled, do not buy the player
Potential INS:
Stuart Downing (loan or 4 million or below)
Sean Wright Phillips (loan or 5-6 million or below)
Jermaine Defoe (loan or 5-6 million or below)

Is that the deposit in brackets LOL
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Postby joependo » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:17 am

Ins
Shaun wright phillips
aimar
baraja
mexes
thruham(unrealistic)
snjider


outs
kewell
josemi
diouf
diao
kirkland

loans
le tallec
cheyrou
sinama

new team
                                          Carson(dudek)

truham                        mexes                       carra                       traore(riise)

snijder(garcia)               gerrard                     hamman                 aimar(baraja)

                                 swp(nando)               cisse(baros if he doesn't go)
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Postby kopite » Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:25 pm

JO JO JO JOEPENDO I noticed that there was no
Xabi Alonso in your starting line up .

WHY ?  :D
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:09 am

We should try and sign the following:

Wright-Phillips
Upson
Ballack
Aimar
Owen/another consistant scorer (Mista???)
Mintal

We should lob:

Kewell
Diouf
Diao
Cheyrou
Diarra (If he won't come back)
Any player that won't give 100%
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Postby dxavier » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:39 am

I am really shocked at some of the nonsense that people are writing. Complete school boy fantasy stuff. Come on guys. What is the point of putting down players who we will not get? I thought we would be listing players who have indicated that they want to leave their current squads and wish to play or remain in the Premiership, not list players who have not made any comments of that kind and we just list any class player on here that we would like but have no chance of getting. Defoe would not go anywhere for 6million (Tottenham are not that stupid), Thruham is not going to leave Juventus for anyone (They are top of the Italian league right now), Mexes has not indicated he would wish to leave Roma and despite their debts, they are currently attempting to tie all their top level players to longer deals (including Mexes), there is no way Middlesborough are going to let Downing go and why should we want him?? He has had some good games in the Premiership, but he flopped at International level and he has not yet proven himself. Two more seasons, maybe, but not right now. Christian Vieri??? That is a joke. Yes, he does have issues with Inter, but do you really think Morientes and Cisse were brought in to sit on the bench? They are both first choice strikers, if you don't play them, they will want to leave and as they both haven't had much playing time under Benitez, it is unlikely he will bring in someone like Vieri who would demand a first team spot. Boumsong? He just joined Newcastle and Souness is happy with him so that is a big no. Toldo, no again. Yes, he is having issues at not being first choice but have you seen him play? He is not first choice for a reason!!!!! Why do we want another average keeper?? Dellas would be a nice addition, but he again is a No. He has made it very clear that he wants to stay with Roma and Roma have opened contract talks with him.

Realistic (not pie in the sky) options are as follows..........

Aimar - Currently at Valencia - Has already issued a 'come and get me plea' to Benitez. This would be a certainty especially if Gerrard leaves and Valencia agree to sell. Fitting Gerrard, Alonso and Aimar would be difficult though, due to Aimar being a central attacking midfielder.

Marek Mintal - Currenty at FC Nurnberg - Top scorer in Bundesliga with 22 league goals even though he is in a standard midfield position and playing for a team which are just outside a religation place. Liverpool have already bid 4million euros for him.

Kuffour - Currently at Bayern Munich. Highly rated center back. His contract runs out this summer so he is avaliable on a Bosman free. He has said he would like to play in the premiership. Although it is said he favours Arsenal, Liverpool are also said to be in the running.

Joao Moutinho - Currently at Sporting Lisbon, this 18 year old was the shock star that helped knock Newcastle and Middlesborough out of the UEFA cup. He is a very highly rated defensive midfielder (a suitable replacement for Hamman who may leave). Liverpool have already made contact with Sporting and are in the lead to sign him.

Reina - Currently at Villareal. Goalkeeper whose amazing displays are one of the main reasons Villareal are in a Champions League position in the Spanish La Liga. Unfortunately, Man U are looking at him too, but you would hope Benitez's connections in Spain could put us in the front running.

Juanito - Currently at Malaga. Contract runs out in the summer so avaliable on a Bosman free. Both Liverpool and Deportivo have sent scouts serveral times to watch the Defender.

Fernando Torres - Currently at Athletico Madrid - Madrid have big financial problems and they are said to be willing to sell their star player. His price would exceed £12million. Benitez has been a long admirer of Torres and Torres is happy to play in an attacking role behind the front two strikers which would be Morientes and Cisse.

Emre - Currently at Inter Milan - Emre has kept Davids on the bench with his performances. Emre has stated he is leaving Inter this summer no matter what and as he will have 12 months left on his contract this summer, Inter are unlikely to say no and loose him for nothing in 12months time. With this little time on his contract, the transfer fee will be resonable. He has said he admires the premiership and he would only go to a top team. With Liverpool being in the semi-finals of the Champions league, we are a definate possibility.
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Postby banana » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:19 pm

dxavier wrote:I am really shocked at some of the nonsense that people are writing. Complete school boy fantasy stuff. Come on guys. What is the point of putting down players who we will not get? I thought we would be listing players who have indicated that they want to leave their current squads and wish to play or remain in the Premiership, not list players who have not made any comments of that kind and we just list any class player on here that we would like but have no chance of getting. Defoe would not go anywhere for 6million (Tottenham are not that stupid), Thruham is not going to leave Juventus for anyone (They are top of the Italian league right now), Mexes has not indicated he would wish to leave Roma and despite their debts, they are currently attempting to tie all their top level players to longer deals (including Mexes), there is no way Middlesborough are going to let Downing go and why should we want him?? He has had some good games in the Premiership, but he flopped at International level and he has not yet proven himself. Two more seasons, maybe, but not right now. Christian Vieri??? That is a joke. Yes, he does have issues with Inter, but do you really think Morientes and Cisse were brought in to sit on the bench? They are both first choice strikers, if you don't play them, they will want to leave and as they both haven't had much playing time under Benitez, it is unlikely he will bring in someone like Vieri who would demand a first team spot. Boumsong? He just joined Newcastle and Souness is happy with him so that is a big no. Toldo, no again. Yes, he is having issues at not being first choice but have you seen him play? He is not first choice for a reason!!!!! Why do we want another average keeper?? Dellas would be a nice addition, but he again is a No. He has made it very clear that he wants to stay with Roma and Roma have opened contract talks with him.

Realistic (not pie in the sky) options are as follows..........

Aimar - Currently at Valencia - Has already issued a 'come and get me plea' to Benitez. This would be a certainty especially if Gerrard leaves and Valencia agree to sell. Fitting Gerrard, Alonso and Aimar would be difficult though, due to Aimar being a central attacking midfielder.

Marek Mintal - Currenty at FC Nurnberg - Top scorer in Bundesliga with 22 league goals even though he is in a standard midfield position and playing for a team which are just outside a religation place. Liverpool have already bid 4million euros for him.

Kuffour - Currently at Bayern Munich. Highly rated center back. His contract runs out this summer so he is avaliable on a Bosman free. He has said he would like to play in the premiership. Although it is said he favours Arsenal, Liverpool are also said to be in the running.

Joao Moutinho - Currently at Sporting Lisbon, this 18 year old was the shock star that helped knock Newcastle and Middlesborough out of the UEFA cup. He is a very highly rated defensive midfielder (a suitable replacement for Hamman who may leave). Liverpool have already made contact with Sporting and are in the lead to sign him.

Reina - Currently at Villareal. Goalkeeper whose amazing displays are one of the main reasons Villareal are in a Champions League position in the Spanish La Liga. Unfortunately, Man U are looking at him too, but you would hope Benitez's connections in Spain could put us in the front running.

Juanito - Currently at Malaga. Contract runs out in the summer so avaliable on a Bosman free. Both Liverpool and Deportivo have sent scouts serveral times to watch the Defender.

Fernando Torres - Currently at Athletico Madrid - Madrid have big financial problems and they are said to be willing to sell their star player. His price would exceed £12million. Benitez has been a long admirer of Torres and Torres is happy to play in an attacking role behind the front two strikers which would be Morientes and Cisse.

Emre - Currently at Inter Milan - Emre has kept Davids on the bench with his performances. Emre has stated he is leaving Inter this summer no matter what and as he will have 12 months left on his contract this summer, Inter are unlikely to say no and loose him for nothing in 12months time. With this little time on his contract, the transfer fee will be resonable. He has said he admires the premiership and he would only go to a top team. With Liverpool being in the semi-finals of the Champions league, we are a definate possibility.

Good stuff Bro.
Some people in here are dreamers and come up with the most pathetic unrealistic sh!t.
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Postby Adebisi » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:26 pm

Personally I'd like any new signings to not come from abroad if possible. I think we need players who have been playing in the Premiership and can come in and play straight away without having to bed in, especially defenders.

I think any young English players like SWP or Downing will end up in bidding wars and cost us a fortune, Rafa will know he can get as good players abroad for cheaper and will shop abroad. Pretty sure SWP will go to Arsenal anyway.
I'd maybe still take Parker but I'm sure he'll be frustrated and want guarenteed first team football if he's moving.

To be honest I'm not really sure who we should go for and will leave that up to Rafa!
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Postby RifleRusher » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:36 pm

i would accept Aimar and Emre... dunno about the others though... maybe Torres, but how bout Owen?? he wants to come back to become a red again?? accept or not??
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:42 pm

dxavier wrote:I am really shocked at some of the nonsense that people are writing. Complete school boy fantasy stuff. Come on guys. What is the point of putting down players who we will not get? I thought we would be listing players who have indicated that they want to leave their current squads and wish to play or remain in the Premiership, not list players who have not made any comments of that kind and we just list any class player on here that we would like but have no chance of getting. Defoe would not go anywhere for 6million (Tottenham are not that stupid), Thruham is not going to leave Juventus for anyone (They are top of the Italian league right now), Mexes has not indicated he would wish to leave Roma and despite their debts, they are currently attempting to tie all their top level players to longer deals (including Mexes), there is no way Middlesborough are going to let Downing go and why should we want him?? He has had some good games in the Premiership, but he flopped at International level and he has not yet proven himself. Two more seasons, maybe, but not right now. Christian Vieri??? That is a joke. Yes, he does have issues with Inter, but do you really think Morientes and Cisse were brought in to sit on the bench? They are both first choice strikers, if you don't play them, they will want to leave and as they both haven't had much playing time under Benitez, it is unlikely he will bring in someone like Vieri who would demand a first team spot. Boumsong? He just joined Newcastle and Souness is happy with him so that is a big no. Toldo, no again. Yes, he is having issues at not being first choice but have you seen him play? He is not first choice for a reason!!!!! Why do we want another average keeper?? Dellas would be a nice addition, but he again is a No. He has made it very clear that he wants to stay with Roma and Roma have opened contract talks with him.

Realistic (not pie in the sky) options are as follows..........

Aimar - Currently at Valencia - Has already issued a 'come and get me plea' to Benitez. This would be a certainty especially if Gerrard leaves and Valencia agree to sell. Fitting Gerrard, Alonso and Aimar would be difficult though, due to Aimar being a central attacking midfielder.

Marek Mintal - Currenty at FC Nurnberg - Top scorer in Bundesliga with 22 league goals even though he is in a standard midfield position and playing for a team which are just outside a religation place. Liverpool have already bid 4million euros for him.

Kuffour - Currently at Bayern Munich. Highly rated center back. His contract runs out this summer so he is avaliable on a Bosman free. He has said he would like to play in the premiership. Although it is said he favours Arsenal, Liverpool are also said to be in the running.

Joao Moutinho - Currently at Sporting Lisbon, this 18 year old was the shock star that helped knock Newcastle and Middlesborough out of the UEFA cup. He is a very highly rated defensive midfielder (a suitable replacement for Hamman who may leave). Liverpool have already made contact with Sporting and are in the lead to sign him.

Reina - Currently at Villareal. Goalkeeper whose amazing displays are one of the main reasons Villareal are in a Champions League position in the Spanish La Liga. Unfortunately, Man U are looking at him too, but you would hope Benitez's connections in Spain could put us in the front running.

Juanito - Currently at Malaga. Contract runs out in the summer so avaliable on a Bosman free. Both Liverpool and Deportivo have sent scouts serveral times to watch the Defender.

Fernando Torres - Currently at Athletico Madrid - Madrid have big financial problems and they are said to be willing to sell their star player. His price would exceed £12million. Benitez has been a long admirer of Torres and Torres is happy to play in an attacking role behind the front two strikers which would be Morientes and Cisse.

Emre - Currently at Inter Milan - Emre has kept Davids on the bench with his performances. Emre has stated he is leaving Inter this summer no matter what and as he will have 12 months left on his contract this summer, Inter are unlikely to say no and loose him for nothing in 12months time. With this little time on his contract, the transfer fee will be resonable. He has said he admires the premiership and he would only go to a top team. With Liverpool being in the semi-finals of the Champions league, we are a definate possibility.

Xavier, if thats just your second post, what can we do to make you post more ?????
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Postby Alonso_Rulz » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:28 pm

Torres coming to liverpool? it will be a dream!! forget abt it..other than that , a fairly reasonable post.. but of cause , i dun see us getting all or most of them...
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