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Postby heimdall » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:35 pm

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GYBS wrote:It is like a lot of stats - they look lovely but dont tell the whole story but what it does say is that he hasnt had that much of a detremental effect to our results. I think lucas is unfortunate in many respects - 1. he gets compared against three of the best CMs in the prem if not europe 2. He isnt from liverpool (if he was he wouldnt get any of the stick he gets these days ) 3. He cost 6 mil ( which is nothing compared to 18 odd mil for players like anderson nani and other youngsters that are bought ) 4. He was Brazilian League Player of the Year and is expected to play like other players that have won that award .

He is maturing as a player and last number of games has played very solidly and can only get better .

Do you mean apart from giving away dangerous freekicks and the occasional penalty, and genrally running around and loosing the ball!!  :no

He is a young lad still learning his trade - plenty of players make mistakes and do what you say - even the great gerrard has done plenty of them .

He has given away one penalty - ONE Penalty - but lets balance that out against one he has earned shall we . He gave away a silly free kick but lets not mention other players giving away free kicks shall we .

Look, as with almost every other aspect of football we are going to have to agree to disagree, I think Lucas is sh1t, whilst you, I'm assuming on the basis that Rafa your Lord and saviour picks him, must be the next big thing.

At least we agree on one thing, and it is the most important thing, that Liverpool is the greatest team in the world.  :buttrock  :buttrock
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Postby GYBS » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:38 pm

where did i say he was the next big thing ?

Was he shi te against Madrid ? Or Man Utd or Fulham ?
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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:49 pm

I didnt like him
But lately hes been playing ok
Still nothing special
Average at best...?
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Postby Ace Ventura » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:58 pm

Sir Roger wrote:I didnt like him
But lately hes been playing ok
Still nothing special
Average at best...?

I have a similar opinion to yours.

He did ok Saturday, certainly held his own so no complaints from me.

If he did that more often and gave away less free kicks in dangerous areas i think he would be a solid back up player.

I remain to be convinced that he can do this but would be happy to be proved wrong.

I do definately feel though that people when he does just ok, go over board saying he has done really well just because he has either been so poor previously or because they feel he needs support after being boo'd and that recently.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:03 pm

Who is going overboard ? the only thing i have seen people say is he was decent again at weekend and didnt let the team down . As i said earlier yeah he has given some silly free kicks away and one penalty - but which youngster hasnt ?!
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Postby Reg » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:08 pm

Sir Roger wrote:I didnt like him
But lately hes been playing ok
Still nothing special
Average at best...?

Are you a rapper Sir Roger?  :laugh:
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Postby heimdall » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:13 pm

GYBS wrote:where did i say he was the next big thing ?

Was he shi te against Madrid ? Or Man Utd or Fulham ?

Hang on are you saying that you don't agree with me that Liverpool is the greatest club in the world.  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:  :veryangry
Or is it just that sense of humour thing failing again.  :rasp
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Postby Ace Ventura » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:15 pm

GYBS wrote:Who is going overboard ? the only thing i have seen people say is he was decent again at weekend and didnt let the team down . As i said earlier yeah he has given some silly free kicks away and one penalty - but which youngster hasnt ?!

I am talking in general terms, when he has a steady game people say he played well rather than ok.

Am not saying you are saying he was MOM or worldclass, just that ok performances are labelled as good as its an improvement on what we are used to.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:32 pm

well thats all we can ask for from the lad - improving as each game goes and he is doing that without any fuss .
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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:32 pm

Reg wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:I didnt like him
But lately hes been playing ok
Still nothing special
Average at best...?

Are you a rapper Sir Roger?  :laugh:

What makes you think Im a rapper dude?
Is it coz my language is crude?
I dont write songs or poems or rhymes
Just comments on these buzzin times
Mighty Liverpool of the F and the C
Capitol of cool its the place to be

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Postby andy_g » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:33 pm

let's get this straight, ace. are you saying that gybs isn't saying that everyone else is saying that you said that gybs said that nobody said that lucas might be not as bad as some who said he was ok when someone else said that gybs said that he was or wasn't?
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Postby GYBS » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:34 pm

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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:38 pm

andy_g wrote:let's get this straight, ace. are you saying that gybs isn't saying that everyone else is saying that you said that gybs said that nobody said that lucas might be not as bad as some who said he was ok when someone else said that gybs said that he was or wasn't?

If not why not?
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Postby Ace Ventura » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:45 pm

andy_g wrote:let's get this straight, ace. are you saying that gybs isn't saying that everyone else is saying that you said that gybs said that nobody said that lucas might be not as bad as some who said he was ok when someone else said that gybs said that he was or wasn't?

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Postby GYBS » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:48 pm

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